Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Swizzlestick]

Alternatively they might just not want to sell one of their best players

Nobody wants to sell their better players, but there's clearly been some dialogue about a sale otherwise I highly doubt we'd be going back three times.

[Elizabeth]

When was the last time it was public that we went back 3 times and eventually bought the player?
From memory it doesn’t happen like this in Burnley’s case

[roperclaret]

When was the last time it was public that we went back 3 times and eventually bought the player?
From memory it doesn’t happen like this in Burnley’s case

Dale Stephens?

[randomclaret2]

Dale Stephens?

3 bids spread over 4 years

[Elizabeth]

Dale Stephens , yeh.
When he was a good player and worth signing , I think we even had a report he was texting his mate to tell him he was Burnley bound.

[Nori1958]

When was the last time it was public that we went back 3 times and eventually bought the player?
From memory it doesn’t happen like this in Burnley’s case

Cornet?

[roperclaret]

3 bids spread over 4 years

Although I’m not sure we did actually bid in the end. I think they called us and said ‘giz a Mill and you can have him’

[Cleveleys_claret]

If we believe what has been reported-ie a third bid, then after 3-4 weeks of fannying about trying to get Clarke, we should know the figure that will secure him. So either meet the price tag or move on. This reminds me of the Garlick days.Makes me wonder if we are really serious about him if you look at how quick O'Shea was concluded

If you watch the O'Shea video put out by the club he says we have been in dialogue since the end of the season, so not as quick as you think. Just we managed to keep it under the radar

[Duffer_]

SSN saying "Chelsea understood to have paid Villareal more than the £30m release clause for [Nicolas] Jackson". Why would they do that?

[daveisaclaret]

SSN saying "Chelsea understood to have paid Villareal more than the £30m release clause for [Nicolas] Jackson". Why would they do that?

I think the release clauses in players at Spanish clubs needs to be paid up front, so presumably paid more but with terms more favourable to Chelsea.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

SSN saying "Chelsea understood to have paid Villareal more than the £30m release clause for [Nicolas] Jackson". Why would they do that?

It only has to be a £1 more, it doesn't really matter

[Newcastleclaret93]

Be a great week if we get both Clarke and Flemming.

Be interesting to see where we prioritise after that Vrankx?

[bfcjg]

SSN saying "Chelsea understood to have paid Villareal more than the £30m release clause for [Nicolas] Jackson". Why would they do that?

Because they are good old cockernee Chewlseee.

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[davideyresleftear]

When was the last time it was public that we went back 3 times and eventually bought the player?
From memory it doesn’t happen like this in Burnley’s case

We can't answer this because it might have happened dozens of times in the last transfer window alone, for all we know. The media write about whatever info they get, but there's no way they'll be kept informed of every offer we make, every negotiation that goes back and forth then stops when a different option appears, then re-starts when things change once again. I suspect most transfers entail a club making at least a couple of offers, getting gazumped, other teams unexpectedly pulling out etc. Maybe it's like buying a house and some players come with a chain. 'We can't sell you X until we line up a replacement' and so on.

[Clive 1960]

I'm led to believe from family that the Fleming guy will be signing after we agreed a fee , family said he played well last season after signing for them but can he step up to the Premier league big difference to championship.

[Guller Bull]

Bob Fleming and then some Flemish?

[RVclaret]

https://twitter.com/skysports_keith/sta ... 59Piho1d6w

9m bid for Clarke. Struggling to see how we are close enough to what they want here.

[PensansClaret]

Gone very quiet. Do we have to wait till Monday for some news.

[Gordaleman]

Gone very quiet. Do we have to wait till Monday for some news.

Every manager would like to have his full squad in place as early in pre season as possible but we all know that it just doesn't work that way.

The most important thing for us fans at this time of year is patience. Some have more than others

[ervi34]

What happend to the Bruun Larsen links? Every single "ITK" said he was having medical a week ago.

[alwaysaclaret]

Report on a twitter feed we've agreed a deal for Zian Flemming

[Elizabeth]

We can't answer this because it might have happened dozens of times in the last transfer window alone, for all we know. The media write about whatever info they get, but there's no way they'll be kept informed of every offer we make, every negotiation that goes back and forth then stops when a different option appears, then re-starts when things change once again. I suspect most transfers entail a club making at least a couple of offers, getting gazumped, other teams unexpectedly pulling out etc. Maybe it's like buying a house and some players come with a chain. 'We can't sell you X until we line up a replacement' and so on.

I'm differentiating between negotiations that take place in the media and those that are done privately.
Take Fleming for example , a clearly media event. If it comes off it will disprove my theory that the quieter the affair the better the chance of signing a player.

[ClaretTony]

What happend to the Bruun Larsen links? Every single "ITK" said he was having medical a week ago.

He was the third player I referred to which included Vigouroux and O'Shea. I don't know about medicals but the interest in him was definitely real and close enough to him signing for me to get an article ready. Having said that, I've had a lot of those over the years that have never seen the light of day.

[bobinho]

When was the last time it was public that we went back 3 times and eventually bought the player?
From memory it doesn’t happen like this in Burnley’s case

Andrew driver…

[Nori1958]

Report on a twitter feed we've agreed a deal for Zian Flemming

There was one of those yesterday...18m

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://twitter.com/skysports_keith/sta ... 59Piho1d6w

9m bid for Clarke. Struggling to see how we are close enough to what they want here.

That does seem an awfully low offer. I suspect Sunderland are wanting more than double that.

[NewClaret]

That does seem an awfully low offer. I suspect Sunderland are wanting more than double that.

If they are he won’t be coming to us so we should move on like we did with O’Hare.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

That does seem an awfully low offer. I suspect Sunderland are wanting more than double that.

Their fans keep saying it's going to take £20 million to get the lad.

[RVclaret]

That does seem an awfully low offer. I suspect Sunderland are wanting more than double that.

Nixon said over 10 initially so maybe he’s not far wrong.

I always thought 10-15 Inc all bonus gets him.

[ArmchairDetective]

What happend to the Bruun Larsen links? Every single "ITK" said he was having medical a week ago.

No, I believe one has fallen through. Not one of the two CT named. But my hesitancy is that I'm not used to having transfer gossip and so I'm conscious that other posters such as you and CT might know things that I don't

Not all of them

[NewClaret]

Their fans keep saying it's going to take £20 million to get the lad.

They got him on a free last summer didn’t they? Very unlikely a player goes from free transfer to £20m player in one season.

Let’s face it, his record is good - 9 goals, 12 assists - but far from sensational in a decent side. I think around £10m for a player they bagged for nothing only 12 months ago I’d decent business for them.

[RVclaret]

They got him on a free last summer didn’t they? Very unlikely a player goes from free transfer to £20m player in one season.

Let’s face it, his record is good - 9 goals, 12 assists - but far from sensational in a decent side. I think around £10m for a player they bagged for nothing only 12 months ago I’d decent business for them.

They paid 3.5m and owe Spurs 20% of whatever profit they sell for

[randomclaret2]

Nixon said over 10 initially so maybe he’s not far wrong.

I always thought 10-15 Inc all bonus gets him.

We must be getting some encouragement to have made 3 bids

[NewClaret]

They paid 3.5m and owe Spurs 20% of whatever profit they sell for

Still a very decent turn in one season!

[Newcastleclaret93]

They got him on a free last summer didn’t they? Very unlikely a player goes from free transfer to £20m player in one season.

Let’s face it, his record is good - 9 goals, 12 assists - but far from sensational in a decent side. I think around £10m for a player they bagged for nothing only 12 months ago I’d decent business for them.

Tbf what would you value Zaroury at? Clarke had a better season (output wise) in a worst team at similar age.

I think their value is a similar level. I certainly wouldn’t want to lose Zaroury for 9m

[NewClaret]

Tbf what would you value Zaroury at? Clarke had a better season (output wise) in a worst team at similar age.

I think their value is a similar level. I certainly wouldn’t want to lose Zaroury for 9m

I think a lot depends on the circumstances - the buyers finances, other teams interested, contract length, club finances, etc. For example, as a ex PL team benefitting from 2 further years of parachute payments I’d expect us to be in a better position than say Sunderland are now.

You’re right I’d be disappointed to lose Zaroury for £9m, but equally 3x ing your money in one season is decent, but we’re talking the numbers quoted as being £18m - £20m. 5-6x ing your money in one season is unrealistic unless you have several big clubs bidding imo.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think a lot depends on the circumstances - the buyers finances, other teams interested, contract length, club finances, etc. For example, as a ex PL team benefitting from 2 further years of parachute payments I’d expect us to be in a better position than say Sunderland are now.

You’re right I’d be disappointed to lose Zaroury for £9m, but equally 3x ing your money in one season is decent, but we’re talking the numbers quoted as being £18m - £20m. 5-6x ing your money in one season is unrealistic unless you have several big clubs bidding imo.

I fully appreciate that, but let’s say we stayed down this season and our debt was continued issue.

I still wouldn’t expect to lose Zaroury for 9m. I think if prem teams come in for young talent the number immediately starts with a 1. It’s the second number that is up for debate.

[randomclaret2]

Nixon has tweeted that there is " no queue " and " no auction " for Clarke

[Woodleyclaret]

Personally I would prefer Nathan Tella
At times imo Clarke flattered to deceive

[NewClaret]

I fully appreciate that, but let’s say we stayed down this season and our debt was continued issue.

I still wouldn’t expect to lose Zaroury for 9m. I think if prem teams come in for young talent the number immediately starts with a 1. It’s the second number that is up for debate.

We should stretch to 10 then

[Tricky Trevor]

Personally I would prefer Nathan Tella
At times imo Clarke flattered to deceive

Forgetting your Tella reference the many times I've seenClarke he hasn't excited me but if VK rates him that'll do for me

[Nori1958]

Personally I would prefer Nathan Tella
At times imo Clarke flattered to deceive

They probably think they could get Clarke and Flemming for the price of Tella

[northeastclaret]

Forgetting your Tella reference the many times I've seenClarke he hasn't excited me but if VK rates him that'll do for me

Took I lot of interest in Sunderland matches last season when they were on the tv and always thought Clarke was excellent, would be delighted if we signed him.

[jojomk1]

Given our "smaller" PL budget
Would you want to spend circa £10m on Clarke who is not guaranteed a start in front of Zaroury
Put the £10m towards someone like Tella or Gyokeres who would be starting
We need players through the door who are going to be starting games

[ervi34]

They probably think they could get Clarke and Flemming for the price of Tella

No chance we get both for 15 million

[It Is What It Is]

Weghorst officially returns to BFC today from Man u loan.
What do you VK is going to do with him?
Today is probably the day VK has "that conversation" with him.

[Walkerpool]

Weghorst officially returns to BFC today from Man u loan.
What do you VK is going to do with him?
Today is probably the day VK has "that conversation" with him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he started for us in the Premier league I'm beginning to worry about the budget we have available.

[ervi34]

I wouldn't be surprised if he started for us in the Premier league I'm beginning to worry about the budget we have available.

We are literally bidding for 3 players at the moment.

[Rileybobs]

Apparently Weghorst has agreed to stay, but only if he’s guaranteed the number 9 shirt and Vincent Kompany’s parking space at Gawthorpe.

[daveisaclaret]

Apparently Weghorst has agreed to stay, but only if he’s guaranteed the number 9 shirt and Vincent Kompany’s parking space at Gawthorpe.

If his parking is anything like his finishing we should offer the space on ether side too