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Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:37 am
by MrTopTier
New Leeds manager if the rumours are to believed.

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Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:02 am
by mdd2
If true and if he keeps them up given their fixtures it will be an amazing feat as he has stated in the past when at Everton that it takes him three or four games to turn things around

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:07 am
by claretonthecoast1882
With their remaining games being

Man City (a)
Newcastle (h)
West Ham (a)
Spurs (h)

It will probably being other teams keeping them up rather than a new manager.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:13 am
by martin_p
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 8:07 am
With their remaining games being

Man City (a)
Newcastle (h)
West Ham (a)
Spurs (h)

It will probably being other teams keeping them up rather than a new manager.
But there are two very winnable games there (the last two). Six points may well see them safe.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:14 am
by Stayingup
Well it looks like Neil Warnock and Roy Hodgsons appointments have worked at Huddersfield and Palace, so why not.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 am
by Jakubclaret
martin_p wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 8:13 am
But there are two very winnable games there (the last two). Six points may well see them safe.
West ham might not be as easy as some people think, on 34 pts it's possible if it's still like that they might need something themselves from that game with man city & united & Brentford away beforehand.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:24 am
by Spijed
Stayingup wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 9:14 am
Well it looks like Neil Warnock and Roy Hodgsons appointments have worked at Huddersfield and Palace, so why not.
Far too many people see the way Man City play football and think those type of managers shouldn't get any new roles as "football has moved on".

Why not if they do a good job and it's successful?

Are fans supposed to see their team relegated by playing the right way.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:28 am
by Colburn_Claret
Changing manager sometimes works, sometimes doesn't, but only 4 games left and the first 2 against City and Newcastle, I can't see this making a difference.


I also think Leeds could stay up if they don't win another game. The other teams down there are so bad.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:30 am
by Billy Balfour
I do so hope this happens.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:38 am
by IanMcL
These managers know how to organise and focus players quickly. That us their hope at this stage.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:40 am
by Quicknick
I like big Sam. I hate Leeds. I hope he doesn't go there.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:48 am
by Here's-Johnny
I'm guessing Leeds could drop with those fixtures. Will Sean weave his Magic at Everton?

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:51 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
Spijed wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 9:24 am
Far too many people see the way Man City play football and think those type of managers shouldn't get any new roles as "football has moved on".

Why not if they do a good job and it's successful?

Are fans supposed to see their team relegated by playing the right way.
I've seen fans of various clubs, Inc our own, claim that they would rather get relegated playing attractive tippy tappy football over good old fashioned football

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 9:54 am
by ClaretTony
Leeds would have been gone last season had we shown up for that last match

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:12 am
by Vincent'sCap
That's Leeds back were they belong then,hope that's another 16 years in the wilderness for them

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:16 am
by FeedTheArf
ClaretTony wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 9:54 am
Leeds would have been gone last season had we shown up for that last match
I mean it's water under the bridge now given what's happened this season, but given what was riding on that game we just didn't show up and the more I see Collins' handball it becomes more and more bizarre!

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:19 am
by Stalbansclaret
Quicknick wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 9:40 am
I like big Sam. I hate Leeds. I hope he doesn't go there.
Genuinely struggling to think why anyone would like him.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:21 am
by houseboy
Everton for the drop I hope. Decent club but they need to have a season in the Championship to โ€˜re-groupโ€™ I think. They have spent too many seasons now flirting with relegation. West Ham Iโ€™m hoping will drop (but I donโ€™t think they will). Other than that I donโ€™t care, unlike a lot on here I have absolutely no issues with Leeds and itโ€™s a good fixture for us anyway, like a local derby almost. Southampton dropping would mean one less โ€˜long haulโ€™ away game so wouldnโ€™t miss them. Would just like to see the two mentioned go down for completely different reasons.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:39 am
by Lancasterclaret
That is the fixture list from hell

I'm not sure replacing the wrong choice (they should have stuck with Jesse Marsh) now is going to do them any good

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:54 am
by Nori1958
ClaretTony wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 9:54 am
Leeds would have been gone last season had we shown up for that last match
.....or Brentford

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:56 am
by Big Vinny K
ClaretTony wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 9:54 am
Leeds would have been gone last season had we shown up for that last match
Not sure we didnโ€™t turn up Tony.
The game was pretty even and we made plenty of good chances. Thatโ€™s pretty good considering a big chunk of that Newcastle team are now 3rd in the league.
Sometimes you just cannot explain or plan for your centre back inexplicably deciding to punch the ball in his own penalty area !!
I think the game we messed up was that loss at Brentford - but guess as they say you get relegated because of your form over a full season and ours was generally not good enough. Failing to score in 2 games against a side as bad as Norwich shows we were just not good enough last season.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:58 am
by basil6345789
Too late

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:05 am
by ElectroClaret
:shock:
basil6345789 wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 10:58 am
Too late
Maybe.
If they stay up, it'll be because of the failings of the teams around them.
They might as well have a bash with SA because the current occupant of the manager's chair doesn't seem to have any idea what he's doing.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:09 am
by Conroysleftfoot
Must admit it's nice watching all this from a distance, knowing that we will be in the Prem next season.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:27 am
by LeadBelly
Staying with Gracia, it's not at all improbable that Leeds will get no points at all in their last 4 games and get relegated. Given how long they stayed down last time, they must dread that and will do anything to try and rescue the situation.

Fat Sam has engineered some fine rescues in his time but surely 4 games is too little time to produce a turnaround. I hope it (his appointment) happens anyway, there's always an interesting media circus around when Sam appears.

Really scraping the barrel though for Leeds- what a shame. ;)

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:37 am
by jrgbfc
Clubs shouldn't be allowed to constantly change managers during the season.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:58 am
by Casper2
jrgbfc wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 11:37 am
Clubs shouldn't be allowed to constantly change managers during the season.
Why not ?

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 12:15 pm
by BennyD
Iโ€™ve only got one thing to say; HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 12:17 pm
by Spike
ClaretTony wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 9:54 am
Leeds would have been gone last season had we shown up for that last match
And Brentford hadnโ€™t gone down to nine men

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 12:17 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
jrgbfc wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 11:37 am
Clubs shouldn't be allowed to constantly change managers during the season.
Why?
Then we'd miss out on Watford's constant changes and also appointments like this at Leeds and Lampard at Chelsea.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 12:21 pm
by LowtonClaret
jrgbfc wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 11:37 am
Clubs shouldn't be allowed to constantly change managers during the season.
I totally agree. When you look at the likes of Watford who change managers more times than underwear. Should be like player transfers but ust the one opportunity mid season. Too easy at the moment.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 12:25 pm
by Spike
The sales of brown envelopes have gone up in Dirty Leeds

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 12:42 pm
by Jakubclaret
LowtonClaret wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 12:21 pm
I totally agree. When you look at the likes of Watford who change managers more times than underwear. Should be like player transfers but ust the one opportunity mid season. Too easy at the moment.
It's comes at a cost with the hiring & firing & you'll never get settled periods of stability with turbulence, let them it's a policy that often backfires & goes nowhere.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:06 pm
by Shaggy
The 2 clubs Iโ€™d love to go down with Sarfhampton are Leeds and โ€œ of course โ€œ Everton.

Fat Sam might just give them that win they need. 1 win for, Notts forest, Everton, Leicester or Leeds will make them safe the way it is as them clubs are not gaining many points now.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:11 pm
by Rileybobs
Big Vinny K wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 10:56 am
Not sure we didnโ€™t turn up Tony.
The game was pretty even and we made plenty of good chances. Thatโ€™s pretty good considering a big chunk of that Newcastle team are now 3rd in the league.
Sometimes you just cannot explain or plan for your centre back inexplicably deciding to punch the ball in his own penalty area !!
I think the game we messed up was that loss at Brentford - but guess as they say you get relegated because of your form over a full season and ours was generally not good enough. Failing to score in 2 games against a side as bad as Norwich shows we were just not good enough last season.
In hindsight the game we messed up was Leeds at home when we conceded a late equaliser when under no pressure whatsoever. This goal effectively kept Leeds up at our expense.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:15 pm
by FCBurnley
Wonder how much Leeds have blown this season on Managers wages and paying off contracts especially if Garcia goes

As for Fat Sam and Dirty Leeds I can only say they deserve each other

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:17 pm
by Spijed
If he keeps them up and Leeds fans end up happy it'll blow away this notion that good football is as important as WINNING football.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:24 pm
by Aclaret
Will we also have the pleasure of seeing Sammy Lee running up and down the touchline, screaming his head off ?

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:25 pm
by ksrclaret
Spijed wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 1:17 pm
If he keeps them up and Leeds fans end up happy it'll blow away this notion that good football is as important as WINNING football.
Spijed you can just come out and say that you prefer route 1 defensive football you know. We all know you do.

You donโ€™t need to keep fangirling over Hodgson and Allardyce and Dyche to try and subtly make your point.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:46 pm
by Spijed
ksrclaret wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 1:25 pm
Spijed you can just come out and say that you prefer route 1 defensive football you know. We all know you do.

You donโ€™t need to keep fangirling over Hodgson and Allardyce and Dyche to try and subtly make your point.
I want winning football above everything else, like every other supporter does. Playing attractive football is a bonus

Hence why you haven't seen any complaints from Palace or Huddersfield supporters.

In your opinion, should Palace have stuck with Vieira and got relegated?

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 1:53 pm
by Vegas Claret
Forest have some winnable games, last 4:
v Saints H
v Chelsea A
v Arsenal H
v Palace A

Could easily get another 5-7 points out of that.
Last day of the season sees Leicester v West Ham, Everton v Bournemouth and Leeds v Spurs, I couldn't pick a winner in any of those games

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 5:01 pm
by ksrclaret
Spijed wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 1:46 pm
I want winning football above everything else, like every other supporter does. Playing attractive football is a bonus

Hence why you haven't seen any complaints from Palace or Huddersfield supporters.

In your opinion, should Palace have stuck with Vieira and got relegated?
Of course youโ€™d rather stay up than go down. You talk of winning football as though itโ€™s so easy though.

The idea that good football = relegation and bad football = success is a nonsense though based on your personal preference for defensive route one stuff.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 5:28 pm
by Jacob Rees Dogg
Stalbansclaret wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 10:19 am
Genuinely struggling to think why anyone would like him.
You obviously donโ€™t follow Big Sam on Twitter. Especially his adventures with Professor Stephen Hawking.
@TheBig_Sam notBigSam

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 5:34 pm
by dsr
LowtonClaret wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 12:21 pm
I totally agree. When you look at the likes of Watford who change managers more times than underwear. Should be like player transfers but ust the one opportunity mid season. Too easy at the moment.
Whether it's right or wrong in principle is arguable, but it's unenforceable. For one thing, the authorities have no legal right to force a football club to allow an employee on their premises who they don't want; for another, what's to stop clubs appointing a new coach and letting him do the work under a different title?

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 5:36 pm
by Duffer_
Hearing the Leeds fans talk about their current predicament shows them to be the moody teenagers of football supporters, incapable of a grown-up relationship with their club. Noisy during the good times but happy to put the "ick" in fickle when it's not all a bed of roses.

"Many fell head over heels in love with the club again but now have the "ick" and it is hard to see how the management brings the romance back."

Leeds United: What is going on at relegation-threatened club? - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65452559

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:01 pm
by Somethingfishy
The Leeds board have progressed to full blown panic mode...hilarious :D

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:37 pm
by Vegas Claret
confirmed, 500K for 4 games plus 2.5 million if he keeps them up

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:41 pm
by Boss Hogg
Desperate Stuff. Good for BFS though.

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 6:42 pm
by Steve1956
Vegas Claret wrote: โ†‘
Tue May 02, 2023 6:37 pm
confirmed, 500K for 4 games plus 2.5 million if he keeps them up
He really is a big fat greedy b@stard

Re: Fat Sam

Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 7:41 pm
by Nonayforever
Good luck to him.
Hope he succeeds to the detriment of Everton and Forest.
I like fairy tales.
Leeds in the PL next season will be even more interesting.