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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 09, 2023 3:49 pm

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Re: Alan Pace

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Fretters » Tue May 09, 2023 4:03 pm

I think he's definitely changed a few opinions with the decisions he's taken which, so far, have pretty much all paid off.

Yes, ALK saddled the club with debt, but I think the new, progressive approach will generate more for the club in the long run than under the previous stewardship.
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Claret16 » Tue May 09, 2023 4:13 pm

Who is the guy with shades top right of the Directors box?

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 09, 2023 4:17 pm

Fretters wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 4:03 pm
I think he's definitely changed a few opinions with the decisions he's taken which, so far, have pretty much all paid off.

Yes, ALK saddled the club with debt, but I think the new, progressive approach will generate more for the club in the long run than under the previous stewardship.
I think that’s an extremely fair comment! - Agreed
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm

It’s a very fair comment.

A lot of people on here doubted that we could improve the brand of Burnley and extend our reach. Essentially we’d his our ceiling. Others were far more positive.

Whilst it is still early days the signs are very good that all those things can be achieved and the club can move forwards in all areas.
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by tarkys_ears » Tue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm

Claret16 wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 4:13 pm
Who is the guy with shades top right of the Directors box?
Pepper Bae

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue May 09, 2023 4:27 pm

Dave Checketts on the second row ?

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue May 09, 2023 4:30 pm

Claret16 wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 4:13 pm
Who is the guy with shades top right of the Directors box?
I was looking top left and thought “that’s my mates Auntie Doris” and wondered why you wanted to know.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 09, 2023 4:45 pm

tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 4:26 pm
Pepper Bae
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: brilliant

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Father Jack » Tue May 09, 2023 11:09 pm

https://twitter.com/bbclancssport/stat ... wu7FY-HWTQ

Some interesting comments in the interview on the attached by AP. Doesn’t sound like VK gives much confidence on how long he’ll stick around which is understandable.
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 09, 2023 11:24 pm

Father Jack wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 11:09 pm
https://twitter.com/bbclancssport/stat ... wu7FY-HWTQ

Some interesting comments in the interview on the attached by AP. Doesn’t sound like VK gives much confidence on how long he’ll stick around which is understandable.
It’s a really interesting interview.

AP describes having Kompany like dating the most beautiful girl in town & knowing she’ll probably never marry you :lol: Fair analogy, I think.

Then plays down what we’ll be able to do in summer, which is fair enough.

Admits to not knowing JJ before an introduction but seems things are going great guns. Mentioned other special people he’s been introduced to, so maybe potential other investors?

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by KRBFC » Tue May 09, 2023 11:41 pm

I didn’t like the way the club was purchased and still don’t however you can’t argue with the changes and freshness he’s brought here.

I never attacked his character because he always came across quite a likeable guy and I commended him for having the nuts to sack Dyche and the following game wandering around the ground mingling with fans. Didn’t hide away he put his nuts on the line and made the right call.

At the end he will be judged fairly on his time here by how well the team does, so far so good for me
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by chipbutty » Wed May 10, 2023 12:08 am

Father Jack wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 11:09 pm
https://twitter.com/bbclancssport/stat ... wu7FY-HWTQ

Some interesting comments in the interview on the attached by AP. Doesn’t sound like VK gives much confidence on how long he’ll stick around which is understandable.
He hardly said that Kompany's gonna jump on next X43!!

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Father Jack » Wed May 10, 2023 12:12 am

He said he didn’t know what VK thinks.
On this basis my comment that VK doesn’t give much confidence is still a fair summary.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by CoolClaret » Wed May 10, 2023 12:18 am

Father Jack wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 12:12 am
He said he didn’t know what VK thinks.
On this basis my comment that VK doesn’t give much confidence is still a fair summary.
Eh?

New Five year deal not enough for you?

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by martin_p » Wed May 10, 2023 12:23 am

Father Jack wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 12:12 am
He said he didn’t know what VK thinks.
On this basis my comment that VK doesn’t give much confidence is still a fair summary.
But that came in answer to a question when Pace said he hopes VK stays here a very, very, very long time and he was asked does VK feel the same.

So essentially he doesn’t know whether VK wants to stay a very, very, very long time. I’m comfortable with that.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by ClaretPete001 » Wed May 10, 2023 12:40 am

Alan Pace has never heard of JJ Watts either. Clearly, he is unaware that JJ is bigger than Ryan Reynolds.

In football, the five year contract is irrelevant. It's just a business deal that means the club gets mode compensation if he leaves and VK gets more money if he gets sacked.

Alan Pace has no idea whether he is going to honour it or not and says so himself.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Father Jack » Wed May 10, 2023 6:18 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 12:18 am
Eh?

New Five year deal not enough for you?
It’s not about me or what I think.

The point is about AP not knowing what VK thinks, irrespective of the length of new deal he’s just signed.

AP says he doesn’t know how long we’ll be ‘dating’ VK.
VK obviously holds his cards close to his chest.

As Pete snd many others have said a contract length is pretty irrelevant. It gets us past the immediate speculation & uncertainty this summer but guarantees nothing for years 2-5.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by barba » Wed May 10, 2023 6:32 am

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 12:40 am
Alan Pace has never heard of JJ Watts either. Clearly, he is unaware that JJ is bigger than Ryan Reynolds.
Bigger in what sense?

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 10, 2023 6:33 am

Father Jack wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 6:18 am
It’s not about me or what I think.

The point is about AP not knowing what VK thinks, irrespective of the length of new deal he’s just signed.

AP says he doesn’t know how long we’ll be ‘dating’ VK.
VK obviously holds his cards close to his chest.

As Pete snd many others have said a contract length is pretty irrelevant. It gets us past the immediate speculation & uncertainty this summer but guarantees nothing for years 2-5.
Stick to "feck, drink, arse, girls"
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by enduroclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 7:26 am

Shame there’s not an award for Championship Chairman Of The Season.
He’d have walked it.
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by bfcjg » Wed May 10, 2023 7:59 am

Brilliant interview. Genuine bloke.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by I'maclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 9:18 am

Pace doesn't know because VK doesn't know. Citeh could have an awful start to next season and come knocking in six months time or it could be five years. It might only be her rich good looking ex that she will dump us for or it could be any handsome bloke with with a few quid. All we can do is keep being the best boyfriend we can be and hope that kind and funny is enough!
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 9:24 am

Think people are reading too much into this

All AP is saying is that VK is clearly destined for bigger things than BFC

We all know it, and we'll just enjoy it as long as we can
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Clarets4me » Wed May 10, 2023 9:31 am

I'maclaret wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 9:18 am
Pace doesn't know because VK doesn't know. Citeh could have an awful start to next season and come knocking in six months time or it could be five years. It might only be her rich good looking ex that she will dump us for or it could be any handsome bloke with with a few quid. All we can do is keep being the best boyfriend we can be and hope that kind and funny is enough!
To continue with the analogy, let's hope our current girl doesn't have her head turned by some dodgy London " wide-boy " with a few quid promising her the earth, only for her to find out that " all that glitters is not gold " .....
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed May 10, 2023 9:40 am

Are people upset with AP being a realist and knowing that VK won't be here forever and will leave for the right job for him?

Bizarre
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed May 10, 2023 9:42 am

Comes across as a really decent man. We are lucky to have him as Chairman. Watching Nathan Tella interviews really makes you feel uplifted. Hope we can keep him at the club.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by claretbob » Wed May 10, 2023 10:18 am

I thought Pace’s analogy was hilarious and very to the point. It also reveals something about VK the man. It’s clear VK is not a Coyle/ Beale bull shitter who vows undying love for the club and then jumps ship without a second’s thought but someone who has in his own mind a clear path to the top.

That includes next season with us in the Prem and to get the players he wants in the new contract has been signed. As for years 2-5 that will depend on two things: how good VK actually proves to be next season and the level of resources Pace can provide.

I think the City job is a bit of a red herring.They are a hard faced organisation who will choose the best possible coach available not the one with the strongest ties to City. Arsenal went for Arteta out of desperation. City can choose the best. If that is VK we are in for an incredible year or two ahead.
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by claretbob » Wed May 10, 2023 10:23 am

I thought Pace’s analogy was hilarious and very to the point. It also reveals something about VK the man. It’s clear VK is not a Coyle/ Beale bull shitter who vows undying love for the club and then jumps ship without a second’s thought but someone who has in his own mind a clear path to the top.

That includes next season with us in the Prem and to get the players he wants in the new contract has been signed. As for years 2-5 that will depend on two things: how good VK actually proves to be next season and the level of resources Pace can provide.

I think the City job is a bit of a red herring.They are a hard faced organisation who will choose the best possible coach available not the one with the strongest ties to City. Arsenal went for Arteta out of desperation. City can choose the best. If that is VK we are in for an incredible year or two ahead.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 2:02 pm

On this season alone he’s been fantastic.

Great to see him turn almost all the negative press about him around.
I know they were surprised by some of the more personal attacks on them but I think they’ve learnt a lot this season.
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Pickles » Wed May 10, 2023 2:03 pm

Radio Lancs interview is fantastic. Comes across really well.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by scouseclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 2:14 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 09, 2023 11:24 pm
It’s a really interesting interview.

AP describes having Kompany like dating the most beautiful girl in town & knowing she’ll probably never marry you :lol: Fair analogy, I think.
He’s just signed a new 5 year contract with us. Even though he won’t be here anywhere near that long, surely that must count at least as an engagement??!!

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 10, 2023 2:25 pm

To me it’s clear now, Dyche was never going to be a fit in this new modern way of doing things, does make you think why we offered dyche a new 5 year deal but it’s all worked out in the end

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 10, 2023 2:38 pm

scouseclaret wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 2:14 pm
He’s just signed a new 5 year contract with us. Even though he won’t be here anywhere near that long, surely that must count at least as an engagement??!!
More friends with benefits, I’d say :lol:

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by NottsClaret » Wed May 10, 2023 3:00 pm

Encouraging to know he's a realist about VK. One lesson we should have learned from the Coyle saga is you always need to be planning ahead. You don't have to give up and sit in the corner sobbing when your latest 'messiah' leaves - then hire Brian Laws. Brighton just go and get a better manager. Swansea did it for several years too.

That said, I reckon he'll be here for another year or two.
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Re: Alan Pace

Post by CoolClaret » Wed May 10, 2023 3:05 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 3:00 pm
Encouraging to know he's a realist about VK. One lesson we should have learned from the Coyle saga is you always need to be planning ahead. You don't have to give up and sit in the corner sobbing when your latest 'messiah' leaves - then hire Brian Laws. Brighton just go and get a better manager. Swansea did it for several years too.

That said, I reckon he'll be here for another year or two.
Exactly that - same with players imo

I think as a 'smaller club' If you have a player on the top of his game at their potential highest market value and a bigger team comes in you say thanks and send them on their merry way.

The absolute worst thing to do is let a contract rundown to 12 months or less knowing the player has 0 intention to resign (unless it's a senior pro that wouldn't fetch a notable transfer fee)

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by MancunianClaret » Wed May 10, 2023 3:06 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 9:31 am
To continue with the analogy, let's hope our current girl doesn't have her head turned by some dodgy London " wide-boy " with a few quid promising her the earth, only for her to find out that " all that glitters is not gold " .....
Actually what I think Alan is saying is that we need to knock Vinny up asap

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by Belgianclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 6:27 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed May 10, 2023 9:40 am
Are people upset with AP being a realist and knowing that VK won't be here forever and will leave for the right job for him?

Bizarre
I think no-one can be so naive to believe VK will still be with us in 5 years.

Good business by AP to secure this long term deal, let's enjoy the time while VK is still with us.

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by roperclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 6:34 pm

I’d be astounded if he hasn’t already got an extensive list of possible suitable replacements

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Re: Alan Pace

Post by I'maclaret » Wed May 10, 2023 9:11 pm

So now we know what JJ's real role is - he's here to shout 'are you looking at my bird?' every time anyone looks at Vinnie. 🐦👀.

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