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Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 8:40 pm
by Fretters
They've confirmed on social media that they won't be next season's shirt sponsor. Really hope we don't go down the usual bookies route, but needs must I suppose. Although, I wouldn't be surprised to see TikTok or someone like that (genuinely have no idea if they could compete with the bookies, but you'd imagine so).

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 8:50 pm
by Aclaret
Shame....we were a winning Combination.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 8:51 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Get Endsleigh on the shirts

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:08 pm
by NewClaret
Trouble is, until gambling firms are gone altogether they will always be the best payers.

Think we had the lowest revenue in the Prem
In our final season by some distance. If we want to compete we have to take the best deals available.

BK8 would t shock me.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:12 pm
by bobinho
Poco?

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:18 pm
by ClaretTony
They were never going to be shirt sponsors next season

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:31 pm
by MiltonKeynesClaret93
Surprised they can't afford it considering how much they charge for some shirts.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:35 pm
by evensteadiereddie
That's a shame.
Best shirt, best sponsors ever..... well, apart from the seventies shirt with the BFC script and no sponsor.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:36 pm
by welsbyswife
Best shirt sponsor ever must have been Rochdale. All in One Garden Centre with a watering can on the front of the shirt. Brilliant :D

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:40 pm
by dandeclaret
NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:08 pm
Trouble is, until gambling firms are gone altogether they will always be the best payers.

Think we had the lowest revenue in the Prem
In our final season by some distance. If we want to compete we have to take the best deals available.

BK8 would t shock me.
Why would they be gone altogether? 33 million people enjoy having a bet every week in the UK…. It’s a legitimate, and legal, leisure activity.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:42 pm
by Culmclaret
Initials for Potteries Motor Traction on Port Vale’s shirts in 83/84 were a tad unfortunate…..

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:43 pm
by DCWat
I’d have B&H on the front, Porn Hub on a sleeve and Ladbrokes on the back if it meant that we could help to fund the transfers that Kompany wants.

It’s a sorry state of affairs but until the blanket ban on bookies advertising on shirts comes in, it’s a bed that we have to lay in unless by some miracle Pace can find a better option.

Personally, I’d sooner see a ban on the TV, Radio and LED hoarding adverts for gambling companies, than I would on shirts.

Whoever we get, I just hope it’s not some sprawling, ugly logo that stands out like a sore thumb.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:48 pm
by Dark Cloud
Classic Football Shirts have definitely had excellent value for money this season and must be extremely happy with the unbelievable exposure and the way the season went. It's a shame it's not continuing because it was brilliant to buck the gambling trend.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:58 pm
by NewClaret
dandeclaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:40 pm
Why would they be gone altogether? 33 million people enjoy having a bet every week in the UK…. It’s a legitimate, and legal, leisure activity.
I meant gone from the Premier League, when they won’t be able to sponsor teams in 3 seasons time.

When that happens, all clubs will have to take lower sponsorship so relatively we wouldn’t be disadvantaged.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm
by Jakubs Tash
Maybe JJ Watt will be using his contacts/influence in the States to help bring in sponsors?

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 10:55 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm
Maybe JJ Watt will be using his contacts/influence in the States to help bring in sponsors?
I suggested social media helping to improve the teams image would help to bring in different/international sponsors and that got mocked by some on here, they couldn't grasp the importance of social media and potential sponsors noticing what's going on.

JJ Watts' presence will also help in this aspect.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:02 pm
by Cooclaret
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:55 pm
I suggested social media helping to improve the teams image would help to bring in different/international sponsors and that got mocked by some on here, they couldn't grasp the importance of social media and potential sponsors noticing what's going on.

JJ Watts' presence will also help in this aspect.
Most of the old boys on here (majority of the board) would have a meltdown trying to understand social media like Tik Tok. They have a hard enough time getting to grips that Burnley had a successful ladies team.

Getting them to buy into the global BFC brand is a waste of time. It’s a local club for local people!

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:34 pm
by martin_p
Cooclaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:02 pm
Most of the old boys on here (majority of the board) would have a meltdown trying to understand social media like Tik Tok. They have a hard enough time getting to grips that Burnley had a successful ladies team.

Getting them to buy into the global BFC brand is a waste of time. It’s a local club for local people!
I’m not quite an old boy yet but getting there, however it’s a little patronising to say old boys don’t understand tik tok. We had clocks when I was a kid too!

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:38 pm
by forzagranata
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:55 pm
I suggested social media helping to improve the teams image would help to bring in different/international sponsors and that got mocked by some on here, they couldn't grasp the importance of social media and potential sponsors noticing what's going on.

JJ Watts' presence will also help in this aspect.
If we are looking for a top tier global brand (as we should be) then they will look at the overall reach and exposure they will get with their shirt sponsorship.

The global tv reach of the Premier League is the main attraction for those kind of brands. You get on Sky Sports, you get on USA and NBC, you get on popular sports television networks around the world.

Having a big social media reach can also help. But we don't have that so it will make very little impact on those kind of companies.

And while JJ Watt also adds to the positive vibe around the club and its brand - ultimately he isn't going to have a massive sway on those kind of companies.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:41 pm
by tarkys_ears
I wish them all the best for next season. They'll do another northern team I suspect - (hopefully not Bastards)

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:48 pm
by aggi
NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:58 pm
I meant gone from the Premier League, when they won’t be able to sponsor teams in 3 seasons time.

When that happens, all clubs will have to take lower sponsorship so relatively we wouldn’t be disadvantaged.
It's generally only the lower level teams in the premier league that have gambling sponsors. The big teams are out of their budget.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 11:53 pm
by NewClaret
aggi wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:48 pm
It's generally only the lower level teams in the premier league that have gambling sponsors. The big teams are out of their budget.
Yes, agree.

Big teams = big brands who want the global exposure.

Small teams (our direct competitors) = betting firms.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:18 am
by RammyClaret61
NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:53 pm
Yes, agree.

Big teams = big brands who want the global exposure.

Small teams (our direct competitors) = betting firms.
But surely there are more than half a dozen big brands out there?

Airlines.. BA, American Airlines, United Airlines, Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Qatar & Qantas. All fly into and out of the U.K.

There are big companies in lots of sectors. Or is it just to easy to click your fingers at the gambling industry, and another unheard of crawls out of the woodwork waving a cheque.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:22 am
by Lancasterclaret
As long as its not PMC Wagner then I'm relatively not fussed

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am
by williamjblazkowicz
I’m surprised nobody else has mentioned this but doesn’t Alan Pace dislike having a betting firm as our sponsor? I seem to remember him saying he’d review that when he first came to the club.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am
by steve1264b
Looking for a blue chip sponsor is difficult, football clubs can be divisive so they would want reach as well as reputational security.

I have been surprised our owners have not been able to bring in a sponsor from the USA, there are a number of internationally renowned companies who HQ in Salt Lake for example.

Unfortunately we have to follow the money so it will probably be a gambling firm.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:45 am
by dougcollins
steve1264b wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am

Unfortunately we have to follow the money so it will probably be a gambling firm.
I just can't see Pace going for that.

We'll find out soon enough.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:47 am
by TheFamilyCat
williamjblazkowicz wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 7:27 am
I’m surprised nobody else has mentioned this but doesn’t Alan Pace dislike having a betting firm as our sponsor? I seem to remember him saying he’d review that when he first came to the club.
Morals v money. Depends whether he places the personal or business rationale higher.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 8:15 am
by claretonthecoast1882
If it is a betting firm that offers the best sponsorship deal hopefully the club takes it.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 12:17 pm
by NewClaret
RammyClaret61 wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 7:18 am
But surely there are more than half a dozen big brands out there?

Airlines.. BA, American Airlines, United Airlines, Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Qatar & Qantas. All fly into and out of the U.K.

There are big companies in lots of sectors. Or is it just to easy to click your fingers at the gambling industry, and another unheard of crawls out of the woodwork waving a cheque.
Yes, it does surprise me really that with so much interest around the world in the PL that we can’t attract bigger sponsors/brands. Even if you assume that mass worldwide audiences only take an interest in the top 6, we play them 12 times so that’s great exposure to their brand for 90 minutes a go.

I’d love to see us partner with a big brand over a multi-year contract but only the really big boys seem to get those deals for whatever reason. I’m no expert but imagine it’s probably to do with companies reducing above the line marketing spend in favour of below the line.

If an airline sponsors us for £5m say (£2.5m less than LoveBet) there’s no guarantees they’ll sell £6m more tickets, or any at all in fact, so the benefit is immeasurable.

Different for a start-up betting brand where you have to build a brand presence.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 1:28 pm
by Raconteur
Are these betting companies legit. From what I've seen, they don't seem right. You never seem to see them advertised on tv in the UK or have the capacity to use these companies in the UK.

Is it a case of them sponsoring Premier league clubs purely for advertising for non UK customers?

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 1:37 pm
by JohnMcGreal
Word on the street is Bud Light will be next season's shirt sponsor.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 2:18 pm
by Rowls
Shame because it was a great sponsor, as far as sponsors go.

My all-time favourite shirt is the 2000/01 shirt without a sponsor. If I'm ever a multi-millionaire i might well sponsor us to have nothing on our shirts for a year.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 2:19 pm
by Rowls
JohnMcGreal wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 1:37 pm
Word on the street is Bud Light will be next season's shirt sponsor.
Naughty! :lol:

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 3:13 pm
by Inchy
I suggested a while ago we would move back to a betting company when we go up. Some on here were very confident that Pace wouldnt allow that to happen, given his faiths objections to gambling.


I suppose the paid trip to Vegas probably put that to bed

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 3:20 pm
by Murger
They should take whoever offers the most cash. Whether that’s a betting company or Pornhub etc.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 3:31 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Re: the strip.
Anybody know when the Umbro contract ends?

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 5:50 pm
by andyh
Murger wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 3:20 pm
They should take whoever offers the most cash. Whether that’s a betting company or Pornhub etc.
Surely OnlyFans :D

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 5:55 pm
by martin_p
Murger wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 3:20 pm
They should take whoever offers the most cash. Whether that’s a betting company or Pornhub etc.
Pornhub? Who’d want that splashed across their chest?

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 6:26 pm
by IanMcL
I was looking to buy one at half price! It seems the new owners upgrade of our exposure, has put an end to that. It will just form part of the shirt offering, at full price.

Well done them....but what about ne???1😪

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 6:31 pm
by Fretters
Inchy wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 3:13 pm
I suggested a while ago we would move back to a betting company when we go up. Some on here were very confident that Pace wouldnt allow that to happen, given his faiths objections to gambling.


I suppose the paid trip to Vegas probably put that to bed
Hasn't Pace already committed to betting firm sponsorship since becoming chairman? I'm sure he has.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 9:10 pm
by wilks_bfc
Looks like CFS may have already moved on

They posted “From Burnley to……” with their logo in the green, white & red of the Italian flag

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 11:10 pm
by Chester Perry
Fretters wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 6:31 pm
Hasn't Pace already committed to betting firm sponsorship since becoming chairman? I'm sure he has.
he did - also said it the spread:EX deal was similar in value to the LoveBet £7.5m deal that collapsed during covid - though the sponsor stayed with us in a smaller deal in the Championship

The 2022 accounts suggest is wasn't unless all the deals incorporated a significant bonus for retaining Premier League status - I say this because we know that the adverts on all those LED screens were not given away for free - I cannot be the only one disappointed by the poor performance of the commercial income side in the last accounts - hopefully things will be much more positive on that front going forward

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:56 am
by ClaretinJapan
welsbyswife wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:36 pm
Best shirt sponsor ever must have been Rochdale. All in One Garden Centre with a watering can on the front of the shirt. Brilliant :D
I think Brighton were sponsored by SKINT - a record label, in 1999, when they were indeed skint.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 8:34 am
by Firthy
Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm
Maybe JJ Watt will be using his contacts/influence in the States to help bring in sponsors?
Would love a Nike Air football shirt with Jordan as the logo dunking a basket 😅

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 10:42 am
by Chester Perry
Firthy wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 8:34 am
Would love a Nike Air football shirt with Jordan as the logo dunking a basket 😅
How very PSG of you

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 5:11 pm
by burnmark
wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed May 17, 2023 9:10 pm
Looks like CFS may have already moved on

They posted “From Burnley to……” with their logo in the green, white & red of the Italian flag
Sponsoring Parma

https://twitter.com/parmacalcio_en/stat ... oXof3Y3G-Q

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 5:17 pm
by Royboyclaret
Classic Burnley shirt ?.......Has anyone mentioned the 1962 Wembley shirt ?......

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 5:21 pm
by Pickles
burnmark wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 5:11 pm
Sponsoring Parma

https://twitter.com/parmacalcio_en/stat ... oXof3Y3G-Q
That's big for them and right on brand. Parma are definitely one of those iconic teams, lots for CFS to dig into.

Re: Classic Football Shirts

Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 5:26 pm
by Royboyclaret
The 1913/14 Cup Final shirt has a very special look about it.......if anyone can post a link ?