Colheap wrote: ↑

Wed May 17, 2023 3:42 pm

Just listened to a fantastic new fortnightly podcast hosted by Simon Evans (The son of clarets mad poster Eli). Really insightful and professional with contributions from Chris Boden, Andrew Greaves, Justin Connolly and Paul Woodhouse. I highly recommend you give it a listen and Chester Perry gets a mention it’s called “From the Bee Hole End” and is available on Spotify, Apple and Acast.

Have a listen!!

quoonbeatz wrote: ↑

Wed May 17, 2023 4:53 pm

Simon posts on here doesn't he?

martin_p wrote: ↑

Wed May 17, 2023 5:58 pm

Good listen, although I don’t necessarily agree with their cynicism over JJ Watt.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed May 17, 2023 6:04 pm

If Forzagranata is Simon then it’s no real surprise. This poster has been negative about the owners ever since they came in and incidentally has barely been seen on this forum all season during these good times (was very very active last summer, as a comparison).

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Wed May 17, 2023 8:54 pm

Has the logo changed?

When I download and started to listen it was the Bee Hole end and now it’s not?

The Hung Juror wrote: ↑

Wed May 17, 2023 4:34 pm

I can see Chris Boden has had a big say in the design of the podcast logo.

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Wed May 17, 2023 9:01 pm

Fair to say the guys on the podcast aren’t a fan of Alan Pace

Spiral wrote: ↑

Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm

Too bogged down to listen at the moment, what's the gist of the Pace criticism/dislike?

Ightenhill_Claret wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 6:49 pm

Thanks for everyone’s listens, comments and feedback. We’re delighted that From The Bee Hole End is currently number 16 in the Apple podcast charts for UK soccer podcasts (above more established pods such as Gabs and Jules from ESPN and The Anfield Wrap).

Always welcome ideas for things we might cover/guests we might be able to get so please do shout up!

Happy Saturday!

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 7:09 pm

How about an episode about the positive changes the new ownership have made?

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 7:09 pm

How about an episode about the positive changes the new ownership have made?

Ightenhill_Claret wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 7:28 pm

I think it’s right and proper for us to still pose questions about the nature of the takeover. There’s no denying what a brilliant season it has been and Pace’s decision to appoint Kompany is a huge part of that.

But to think that the season we have had means that there’s now no questions to answer is a strange take.

Spiral wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 7:46 pm

Some folks lack the subtlety to understand that criticism of one action or decision is not always necessarily a criticism of the person doing the action or making the decision, nor is it a criticism of their actions and decisions as a whole. I got a bit of a barrage aimed at me for suggesting that this upcoming documentary, which I said before saying anything else that I am excited for, might have a fair bit of über-cringe religious fluffing shoehorned into it, making it as much an Alan Pace/Mormon documentary as it is a Burnley FC one. Now everyone hates me lol. Discussions would be better if people could be mature enough to recognise that criticism of a part is not criticism of the whole, and that criticism of the part does not require any kind of counterbalance, because we aren't children. The paranoia some people have about criticism of any kind is almost cult-like, and it's genuinely really immature. You have no obligation to balance criticism with praise, none whatsoever, because if the criticism is fair and measured it stands up by itself. The only time the balancing of criticism with praise becomes a consideration is when it becomes apparent that you may be propounding a narrative which may be perceived as being one not in line with your overarching views on the matter, and then you might ward off accusations of being biased with a counterbalance, but this constant need for so-called positivity is really feeble and sounds neurotic at times.

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 7:09 pm

How about an episode about the positive changes the new ownership have made?

Ightenhill_Claret wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 7:28 pm

I think it’s right and proper for us to still pose questions about the nature of the takeover. There’s no denying what a brilliant season it has been and Pace’s decision to appoint Kompany is a huge part of that.

But to think that the season we have had means that there’s now no questions to answer is a strange take.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 8:23 pm

Go for it. I look forward to episode 1 of the EasyasBFC podcast.

agreenwood wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 8:17 pm

Thought it was a good listen. I didn’t agree with everything they had to say, but it’d be boring if I did.

It was refreshing to listen to a podcast where the the overriding purpose didn’t appear to be to advance the profile of the presenters.

A grown up conversation between some seasoned journalists and Burnley fans. Definitely a gap in the BFC market for that.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 9:04 pm

By all means have questions about how the club was acquired, but don’t forget it was a “Burnley fan” that allowed it to be acquired the way it was. It’s the grief that AP gets for it that doesn’t sit right with me, whilst MG saunters away with flipping great wodges of cash.

I got the distinct impression there were quite a few on here last season who were DESPERATE for it all to go wrong just so they could say “told you so”.

Whether he was lucky or not is neither here nor there. He made some very good decisions, and it looks like he’s continuing to do so…. There has been NOTHING to complain about this season, absolutely NOTHING. The best season in my 57 years, and there are people digging in the weeds looking for a “yeah but…”

The ride is here to be enjoyed…

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 9:04 pm

By all means have questions about how the club was acquired, but don’t forget it was a “Burnley fan” that allowed it to be acquired the way it was. It’s the grief that AP gets for it that doesn’t sit right with me, whilst MG saunters away with flipping great wodges of cash.

I got the distinct impression there were quite a few on here last season who were DESPERATE for it all to go wrong just so they could say “told you so”.

Whether he was lucky or not is neither here nor there. He made some very good decisions, and it looks like he’s continuing to do so…. There has been NOTHING to complain about this season, absolutely NOTHING. The best season in my 57 years, and there are people digging in the weeds looking for a “yeah but…”

The ride is here to be enjoyed…

Inchy wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 9:41 pm

In my time watching Burnley (since 1993) we have only had 2 properly bad managers. Waddle and Laws. And i felt Laws was always on to a loser but it was a poor appointment

Thats not bad though in 30 years to have had only 2 bad managers!

There is a massive degree of luck but i also think the Kilby board were very good at selecting managers

agreenwood wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 9:53 pm

I think the board can claim credit for appointing a manager who had the credentials to do a good job. You can imagine Dyche & Kompany coming across very well in interviews. The luck element comes in when they both went on to exceed the boards wildest dreams very soon after their appointments.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 10:26 pm

Finally got around to listening to it having read all the comments on here. I found it mostly enjoyable and look forward to the next one, a couple of negatives though were the take on JJ Watt which was horrific, he didn't 'just turn up', he's been wearing his Burnley clobber and talking to fans for MONTHS. Having a pop at Pace because he has a personality you don't like is bizarre to the extreme, he's a bit "Cheesy" or whatever the phrase was is pretty lame, criticize him for taking down the player pictures and not putting them back up is far game but anything else is abject.

Ightenhill_Claret wrote: ↑

Sat May 20, 2023 10:39 pm

All views on the podcast are of the individual contributor which we hope will be something that helps create and stimulate the debate.

(A bit like this message board you might say)

How dull would life be if we all thought the same?