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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 18, 2023 7:17 pm

ervi34 wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 6:52 pm
Tella missed a clear cut chance at Boro. Does that mean he's pants as well?
No, but it means he's not worth 25m either.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Nori1958 » Thu May 18, 2023 9:05 pm

whiffa wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 1:10 pm
Thought he was one of the best players I watched on the Turf this season in an opponent's shirt. Would be very pleased to sign him.
Hes a forward who should score goals, i dont recall him scoring against us

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by RVclaret » Thu May 18, 2023 9:10 pm

Excellent striker and would suit us down to the ground. Incredibly hard worker, robust and dangerous on the ball. Finishing can be erratic but he’s pretty proven in this league now and quite confident he’ll step up.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Darnhill Claret » Thu May 18, 2023 9:14 pm

I also think that he's a good player but we need to be discovering potential like Coventry did when they signed him. Our potential quality forwards are Foster and Obafemi.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by whiffa » Thu May 18, 2023 9:54 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu May 18, 2023 9:05 pm
Hes a forward who should score goals, i dont recall him scoring against us
A typical response from you Nori, what you've stated doesn't contradict my opinion unless I'm missing something?

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Commy » Thu May 18, 2023 10:06 pm

If you read the Coventry forum about him, he is not a striker, he is a winger. They say he misses an awful lot of chances for every goal he scores.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by gandhisflipflop » Thu May 18, 2023 10:18 pm

I just hope we don’t sign him. We need better

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by aggi » Thu May 18, 2023 11:07 pm

Coventry must have been amazing this season for Gyokeres to miss loads of chances and still get 21 goals.
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Re: Gyokeres

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu May 18, 2023 11:12 pm

Theres a lot better value to be had in Europe than Gyokeres...surely the last 2 windows have taught us that ?

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu May 18, 2023 11:51 pm

Facts are indisputable and Manuel Benson has a better shot conversion rate than Gyokeres this season. Given that most of Manuel’s shots were from outside the box, that is interesting.

I still like Gyokeres, but there has to be a limit to his value.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Damo » Fri May 19, 2023 1:13 am

I'd have him in a heartbeat, but not at the numbers quoted.
He will end up at someone like Wolves or Brentford if Coventry don't get promoted and will do well.
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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Quicknick » Fri May 19, 2023 2:14 am

Damo wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 1:13 am
I'd have him in a heartbeat, but not at the numbers quoted.
He will end up at someone like Wolves or Brentford if Coventry don't get promoted and will do well.
I think he'll end up somewhere like that, but he won't do well.
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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Shaggy » Fri May 19, 2023 5:32 am

Quicknick wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 2:14 am
I think he'll end up somewhere like that, but he won't do well.
I completely agree. I think he will disappear in the premier league. Just don’t see the quality he supposedly has. Hardworking strong athletic player he may be but that won’t cut it at the next level up.

The good thing is I’m sure we will all find out next season as he appears destined to be at a premier league club.
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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Hbclaret007 » Fri May 19, 2023 9:10 am

Shaggy wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 5:32 am
I completely agree. I think he will disappear in the premier league. Just don’t see the quality he supposedly has. Hardworking strong athletic player he may be but that won’t cut it at the next level up.

The good thing is I’m sure we will all find out next season as he appears destined to be at a premier league club.
I'm sure there will be lots of experienced managers and scouts who do see his quality and believe he will cut it at the next level. 21 goals in a pretty average Coventry side makes him more than just hardworking, strong and athletic. I'd love to see him at Burnley, if the price is right and I'm sure VK & AP will only pay sensible money.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri May 19, 2023 9:17 am

Hbclaret007 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 9:10 am
I'm sure there will be lots of experienced managers and scouts who do see his quality and believe he will cut it at the next level. 21 goals in a pretty average Coventry side makes him more than just hardworking, strong and athletic. I'd love to see him at Burnley, if the price is right and I'm sure VK & AP will only pay sensible money.
The entire Coventry team is built around Gykores to allow him to get the goals. I just don’t see any particular element of his game that is premier league quality.

When I look at Benson I know he will perform in the prem because he has premier league quality dribbling and long range shooting.

He looks destined to be another Che Adams or Armstrong. Good championship player but just doesn’t have enough ability to be effective in the prem.
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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Big Vinny K » Fri May 19, 2023 9:28 am

Don’t know whether he will be good enough or not but he’s been good this season and very clearly his game his not all about goals. Coventry are skint and have been for many years. They lost their only other quality player for the whole season so Gyokeres has been at the heart of their great season. You cannot compare them to Burnley at all given we spent more money building our team than they have probably spent in the last decade.

If a premier league club do decide to spend £20m or so on him they will not be doing this expecting 20 goals. That kind of money usually gets you around double figure goals. If it gets you 12 or 13 goals thats a bonus.
For clubs who are likely to be bottom 7 or 8 that number of goals can be key as can be seen most years in the leading scorers at the clubs who finish in these positions. If the player you are buying provides more than just goals as Gyokeres appears to do then again that will be important to the club. The way VK plays and brings the likes of Barnes and Jay deep to hold the ball up and play it to the on rushing full backs and midfielders would seem to fit with Gyokeres from what I have seen.

But I do think £20m is probably the limit we should pay if we were interested as there is the obvious risk that he will not make the step up.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by beeholeclaret » Fri May 19, 2023 10:05 am

Big Vinny K wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 9:28 am
Don’t know whether he will be good enough or not but he’s been good this season and very clearly his game his not all about goals. Coventry are skint and have been for many years. They lost their only other quality player for the whole season so Gyokeres has been at the heart of their great season. You cannot compare them to Burnley at all given we spent more money building our team than they have probably spent in the last decade.

If a premier league club do decide to spend £20m or so on him they will not be doing this expecting 20 goals. That kind of money usually gets you around double figure goals. If it gets you 12 or 13 goals thats a bonus.
For clubs who are likely to be bottom 7 or 8 that number of goals can be key as can be seen most years in the leading scorers at the clubs who finish in these positions. If the player you are buying provides more than just goals as Gyokeres appears to do then again that will be important to the club. The way VK plays and brings the likes of Barnes and Jay deep to hold the ball up and play it to the on rushing full backs and midfielders would seem to fit with Gyokeres from what I have seen.

But I do think £20m is probably the limit we should pay if we were interested as there is the obvious risk that he will not make the step up.

Some good points Big VK.

You mentioned about the likes of Barnes and Jay playing deep and bringing others into play. It might not be popular with many but Kompany may think that Weghorst could play that role. That would save money that could be spent elsewhere? Just a thought.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by warksclaret » Fri May 19, 2023 10:46 am

This is a classic case of a good, young, promising striker playing in English football being a high cost. He will have 3-4 clubs in the Prem monitoring him which will push up his value and his package, which quite rightly should make us focus on someone else. Can see him going to Brentford who will mentor and coach him so he can step in for Ivan Toney during his ban. Brentford of course have good history for acquiring and developing lower league players

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by andyh » Fri May 19, 2023 12:35 pm

Have I missed a real link with him or is this just a bit of wishful thinking from some fans? May well be the best fit for a striker in the Championship but we’ve not been fishing in that pool.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by JR1882 » Fri May 19, 2023 12:39 pm

No way he leaves if they go up, he is their only chance of getting anywhere near 30+ points.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Falcon » Fri May 19, 2023 12:51 pm

I really like the player but it all depends on whether our valuation matches Coventry's. I suspect it won't given our 'buy low sell high' model.

Separate from that, if they go up in the play-offs there's no way they'll sell him anyway unless something ludicrous comes in.

If we can get him for 12-15m then I'd take him. If not then I'd look elsewhere for a player with a similar profile.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by KRBFC » Fri May 19, 2023 1:13 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 9:28 am
They lost their only other quality player for the whole season so Gyokeres has been at the heart of their great season.
Gustavo Hamer has been one of the best central midfielders in that division for the last two seasons and Fulham bid for him in the summer. Hamer was worth double OHare in the summer and probably 4x now

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by RVclaret » Fri May 19, 2023 1:16 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 1:13 pm
Gustavo Hamer has been one of the best central midfielders in that division for the last two seasons and Fulham bid for him in the summer. Hamer was worth double OHare in the summer and probably 4x now
1 year of contract left which could mean he’s available for slightly less.

I do like Hamer, though, was impressed with him at the Turf and pretty much every time I’ve seen Cov.

With him being the same height as Cullen I’m not sure he’s the exact profile we need.

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Re: Gyokeres

Post by KRBFC » Fri May 19, 2023 1:18 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 1:16 pm
1 year of contract left which could mean he’s available for slightly less.

I do like Hamer, though, was impressed with him at the Turf and pretty much every time I’ve seen Cov.

With him being the same height as Cullen I’m not sure he’s the exact profile we need.
Oh I didn’t mean we should sign him, just pointing out that he’s a standout player at this level and the poster above didn’t even acknowledge him
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Re: Gyokeres

Post by Elizabeth » Fri May 19, 2023 7:02 pm

Seriously good player who would be Sam Vokes X 2 in the PL. Ain't going to happen whatever position Coventry finish but that won't matter when we get our team together.
We are lucky to have many players with PL goalscoring potential already signed up

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