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Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 5:54 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
Reminds me of the Stoops Estate riots in 1992 I think it was ??

Know a few that lived round there at the time, said it was like a war zone for 2 days solid.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 5:59 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Strange one this.
The police are denying any chase took place yet CCTV is emerging to show, perhaps, otherwise.
Thank God Braverman won't be involved.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:03 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
Always found the Welsh police ‘Hedlu’ to be horrible bully’s whenever i went Ninian Park.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:09 pm
by Rowls
Grievance + Sunshine = High Riot Potential

Main two causes of rioting.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:11 pm
by Boss Hogg
Apparently the rioters sabotaged/ burnt out a disabled lady’s car. She can’t now leave her house. Scumbags.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:18 pm
by tarkys_ears
Leave em to it, I say.

Saw pics of the highway people cleaning their streets earlier - let the ******* do it themselves. Scroates!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:28 pm
by Volvoclaret
Edward 1st had the right idea.😡

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:34 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Boss Hogg wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 6:11 pm
Apparently the rioters sabotaged/ burnt out a disabled lady’s car. She can’t now leave her house. Scumbags.
It will be interesting to see if this actually happened.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:37 pm
by Leisure
evensteadiereddie wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 6:34 pm
It will be interesting to see if this actually happened.
Well according to her it did.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:47 pm
by Dark Cloud
Not many riots take place in the rain!!!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:55 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Are they rioting in protest at the Police actually doing their job for once?

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:59 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Leisure wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 6:37 pm
Well according to her it did.
Fair dos if that's true.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:11 pm
by Andreshotboots
Riot, smash up Police cars, trash the streets, huge clean up operation to fund, extra Police drafted in, then complain when your Council tax bill rises..

Clever some people, they really are..

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:11 pm
by TheFamilyCat
tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 6:18 pm
Leave em to it, I say.

Saw pics of the highway people cleaning their streets earlier - let the ******* do it themselves. Scroates!
Yeah, that would happen.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:15 pm
by dougcollins
ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 6:03 pm
Always found the Welsh police ‘Hedlu’ to be horrible bully’s whenever i went Ninian Park.
Ah, it's just cos we're English.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:15 pm
by Lancasterclaret
We don't really want outbreaks of rioting on top of everything else that is going on to be perfectly honest this summer

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:26 pm
by Clovius Boofus
tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 6:18 pm
Leave them to it, I say.

And allow them to wreck even more property? The police should take their kid gloves off and crack some heads. It's what the decent law-abiding people on that estate want. Why should their lives and property be ruined by mindless thugs? Zero tolerance to criminality. We've been 'leaving people to it' for far too long.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:28 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Just a reminder to everyone really that two kids died, and its not really the time or the place for your personal fantasies on law enforcement

Cheers!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:34 pm
by burnley007
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:28 pm
Just a reminder to everyone really that two kids died, and its not really the time or the place for your personal fantasies on law enforcement

Cheers!
Well said. Some people have very high opinions of their own opinions!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:38 pm
by Leisure
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:28 pm
Just a reminder to everyone really that two kids died, and its not really the time or the place for your personal fantasies on law enforcement

Cheers!
But that tragedy didn't seem to worry the rioters!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:40 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Leisure wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:38 pm
But that tragedy didn't seem to worry the rioters!
I think its better to wait till we know what actually happened

Goes without saying that the rioters should be punished* btw

*just not in the way that some people who contribute to this board insist on

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 7:49 pm
by claretandy

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:05 pm
by Clovius Boofus
Leisure wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:38 pm
But that tragedy didn't seem to worry the rioters!
Exactly, yet he used it in an attempt to shut down my comments. Says a lot about today's so-called liberals. I think Lancaster would be singing from a different hymn sheet if he lived on an estate where anti-social behavior and far, far worse was part of everyday life.

I feel sorry for the decent people who live there. Scared to death in their own homes while they peek out from their curtains and watch their property burn. Can you imagine what it was like for young children and the elderly? It doesnt bear thinking about. It's no way to live and I'm sure they would welcome a zero-tolerance crackdown.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:07 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Electric scooters and bikes need insurance and must be restricted to one rider.We have a fool near us who takes her 8yr old to school.The kid stands up in front of his Mum, neither wear helmets as she races about on the path then on the road.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:11 pm
by Clovius Boofus
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 8:07 pm
Electric scooters and bikes need insurance and must be restricted to one rider.We have a fool near us who takes her 8yr old to school.The kid stands up in front of his Mum, neither wear helmets as she races about on the path then on the road.

What an example to set.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:21 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Clovius Boofus wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 8:05 pm
Exactly, yet he used it in an attempt to shut down my comments. Says a lot about today's so-called liberals.
Oh

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:22 pm
by bfcjg
By some accounts these " lads " were very active in anti social behaviour, tragic but let's be honest what can the police do ? Stop motor crime and they are **** and aggressive, don't stop it and they are weak and lazy.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:29 pm
by AmbleClaret
tarkys_ears wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 6:18 pm
Leave em to it, I say.

Saw pics of the highway people cleaning their streets earlier - let the ******* do it themselves. Scroates!
Decent people living there having their property destroyed. There's definitely not much between your ears.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:43 pm
by Leisure
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 7:40 pm
I think its better to wait till we know what actually happened

Goes without saying that the rioters should be punished* btw

*just not in the way that some people who contribute to this board insist on
Sorry but doesn't matter what happened, people should not be rioting! Especially when they probably didn't know how the accident happened!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:51 pm
by Tonto
The same happened a few years ago in Swansea,a funeral was the excuse that time for the rioters to burn cars and smash people's homes etc ,it took some time but a lot of them were jailed ,it was terrifying watching on tv so living there must have been horrendous

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:55 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Leisure wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 8:43 pm
Sorry but doesn't matter what happened, people should not be rioting! Especially when they probably didn't know how the accident happened!
Of course they should not be rioting and they should be punished

I just think there is a different way to deal with people rather than cracking some heads!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:55 pm
by arise_sir_charge
bfcjg wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 8:22 pm
By some accounts these " lads " were very active in anti social behaviour, tragic but let's be honest what can the police do ? Stop motor crime and they are **** and aggressive, don't stop it and they are weak and lazy.
I’d put good money on the e-bike being ‘chipped’ and able to go far faster than it should be.

It’s a major focus area in insurance at the moment sadly tragedies like this one are inevitable until these things are properly legislated.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:07 pm
by Foshiznik
Maybe get the able bodied benefit scroungers to earn their money and clear the street up.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:11 pm
by evensteadiereddie
House!







Hopefully not burning.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:13 pm
by timshorts
Ely is not the most celubrious. Nevertheless, I'm sure that Tunbridge Wells will have received more of the levelling up money.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:15 pm
by Clovius Boofus
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 8:55 pm
Of course, they should not be rioting and they should be punished

I just think there is a different way to deal with people rather than cracking some heads!

It is a figure of speach, old boy. I didn't intend to upset your liberal sensibilities.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:20 pm
by MancunianClaret
Foshiznik wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 9:07 pm
Maybe get the able bodied benefit scroungers to earn their money and clear the street up.
Good way of undermining paid jobs.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:25 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Clovius Boofus wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 9:15 pm
It is a figure of speach, old boy. I didn't intend to upset your liberal sensibilities.
You do get that I don't regard liberal as an insult, or something not to be proud of I take it?

If you can move past that (two replies, two mentions of it, so I doubt it but we can hope) then there clearly is broad agreement on rioters should be punished, the e-bikes are a bloody menace when chipped and anti-social behaviour is bad

We probably only differ on the prevention of these incidents

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 9:52 pm
by bfcjg
I feel sorry for the really decent people on that estate, terrorised by **** day in day out, notice how many wouldn't speak on camera for fear of reprisals. These scummy youths run these estates and when the police intervene the " community leaders" always side with the **** and how Society has failed them .

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:12 pm
by roperclaret
evensteadiereddie wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 5:59 pm
Strange one this.
The police are denying any chase took place yet CCTV is emerging to show, perhaps, otherwise.
Thank God Braverman won't be involved.
I’ve seen it. No way could that be called a chase.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 10:22 pm
by Commy
As a Police dispatcher who has to deal with pursuits I think it is to easy for people to make comments and is too easy to blame the Police. They first have to radio that they have a follow then have to declare a pursuit. They radio through all the time road conditions, speed, and safety of others. At any time the radio operator can call it off if they deem it dangerous. As soon as a follow is called over the radio your nerves start and you are hoping it doesn't go to a pursuit. Also, if the officers recognise anyone in the vehicle they do not carry on with a pursuit.

Personally, I am fed up of the Police being blamed. If you are doing something wrong it is your own fault.

People work hard to get nice cars and don't want them stolen and wrecked by some boy racers. They would still be driving like idiots even if they weren't being chased and might still end up in the same position so stop blaming it on people who are trying to do the job they are employed to do!

I don't like people dying but, if someone stole my car which has some power, and ended up dying because of it, sorry, but it is their own fault. They know the risks when they take it.

Might seem heartless but I work with this all the time and if you weren't thick skinned you wouldn't be able to do the job. The longer you do the job the less it gets to you.

People moan when the Police don't do anything and then moan when they do. They just can't win.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 11:11 pm
by Foshiznik
MancunianClaret wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 9:20 pm
Good way of undermining paid jobs.
The councils are understaffed so can be better utilised in areas that aren’t self destructive.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 1:27 am
by RickyBobby
The welsh are a strange breed. Two boy racers crash and kill themselves so it must be the police's fault, not the drivers or the drivers parent‘s for raising a holes, no, it is the police who are in the wrong, and in that situation they see the only reasonable course of action is to brick all emergency vehicle, attack all emergency personal and set fire to innocent peoples cars. What goes through their heads! In what world is that a reasonable response to two idiots driving dangerously?!
I am glad us english don‘t respond to boy racers in the same way, the amount of people speeding up in down in Burnley, if everyone set fire to random cars every time they saw someone speeding and driving dangerously there would‘t be any cars left!

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 5:48 am
by CFS
Good job Fireman Sam is safe.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 6:35 am
by claretandy
arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 8:55 pm
I’d put good money on the e-bike being ‘chipped’ and able to go far faster than it should be.

It’s a major focus area in insurance at the moment sadly tragedies like this one are inevitable until these things are properly legislated.
Watch the video above to see how fast it was going.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 9:10 am
by Rowls
Commy wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 10:22 pm
Personally, I am fed up of the Police being blamed. If you are doing something wrong it is your own fault.
These events, tragic as they are, were widely known as “professional hazards” for criminals not sure long ago.

This concept seems to have disappeared but it’s worthy of a revival.

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 9:28 am
by LS7
I’m sure they were little angels

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 10:32 am
by MancunianClaret
Foshiznik wrote:
Tue May 23, 2023 11:11 pm
The councils are understaffed so can be better utilised in areas that aren’t self destructive.
Understaffed or underfunded?

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 11:50 am
by Nori1958
MancunianClaret wrote:
Wed May 24, 2023 10:32 am
Understaffed or underfunded?
Understaffed because of underfunding?

Re: Cardiff Riots

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 12:25 pm
by Herts Clarets
The Mail article describes the area of Ely as deprived, then reports 16 and 15 year old boys riding a £4,000 electric bike......