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Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:22 pm
by CryerBFC
Seats removed and the turf looking in good knick.

Can we expect to see many more changes?

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:25 pm
by randomclaret2
Werent all the lower tier seats replaced only 2/3 years ago ?

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:27 pm
by distortiondave
I don't like it. Much preferred it when the pitch was a proper rectangle than this ridiculous banana shape.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:32 pm
by clarethomer
Pitch looks good.

Have the done anything to the pitch?

I thought i had read it was due an upgrade a few years ago.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:33 pm
by Wokingclaret
Distortion Dave Distortion

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:57 pm
by Vegas Claret
clarethomer wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:32 pm
Pitch looks good.

Have the done anything to the pitch?

I thought i had read it was due an upgrade a few years ago.
new pitch

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:04 pm
by ClaretTony
We saw a pic taken from a drone recently which showed those seats missing in the lower tier block. No idea what they are doing there.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:17 pm
by claretburns
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:04 pm
We saw a pic taken from a drone recently which showed those seats missing in the lower tier block. No idea what they are doing there.
Safe standing perhaps? If the club had applied for that would it be public knowledge?

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:19 pm
by ClaretTony
claretburns wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:17 pm
Safe standing perhaps? If the club had applied for that would it be public knowledge?
Definitely not. I think that's the area where they might have been suspending supporters for standing last season.

Re: Safe standing, I believe there is no appetite to install any ahead of this new season but if and when we do it is going to be in the CFS.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:25 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Some structural work needs doing apparently.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:28 pm
by claptrappers_union
It's structural work to the stand, I spoke to one of the maintenance guys last season when the new seats were put in, and he commented 'that they'd have to come back out again next season anyway'. It looks like they are just working on the one block at the moment.

The pitch looks great.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:30 pm
by NewClaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:19 pm
Definitely not. I think that's the area where they might have been suspending supporters for standing last season.

Re: Safe standing, I believe there is no appetite to install any ahead of this new season but if and when we do it is going to be in the CFS.
Daft we’ve not upgraded the CFS to rail seating this summer in my opinion.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:59 pm
by RickyBobby
The cricket field would look great with the bag 2/3 being safe standing. Couldn’t do all the stand as for the away fans you have to keep some normal seats. I was hoping they would do it this season but maybe to get all the permissions it couldn’t be done in time? Hopefully it gets done next summer.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:08 pm
by Clarets4me
RickyBobby wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:59 pm
The cricket field would look great with the bag 2/3 being safe standing. Couldn’t do all the stand as for the away fans you have to keep some normal seats. I was hoping they would do it this season but maybe to get all the permissions it couldn’t be done in time? Hopefully it gets done next summer.
I wouldn't spend a penny more than we have to on that stand, until we decide if it's going to be replaced within the next 2-5 years ...

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:56 pm
by GetIntoEm
They've not started building the cocaine stall in the wrong place have they?

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:04 am
by bobinho
distortiondave wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:27 pm
I don't like it. Much preferred it when the pitch was a proper rectangle than this ridiculous banana shape.
Thought you’d be all over that, what with your username….🤔🤔🤔

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:15 am
by NottsClaret
Clarets4me wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:08 pm
I wouldn't spend a penny more than we have to on that stand, until we decide if it's going to be replaced within the next 2-5 years ...
The CFS has been being replaced ‘in the next few years’ for the last 25 years. It’ll outlive all of us.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:16 am
by Clarets4me
NottsClaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 8:15 am
The CFS has been being replaced ‘in the next few years’ for the last 25 years. It’ll outlive all of us.
You have a point, to use a Burnley phrase, " It seems to be the " creaking gate " of Football Stands ....

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:22 am
by nonayclaret
All this talk of "safe standing", are there any statistics of injuries at turf moor due to standing fans?
JHL blocks 1 -3 all normally stand, along with most of the CFS including the away lot. Thats a lot of fans standing at theur seats, but what says it is actually unsafe?

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:26 am
by ClaretTony
nonayclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:22 am
All this talk of "safe standing", are there any statistics of injuries at turf moor due to standing fans?
JHL blocks 1 -3 all normally stand, along with most of the CFS including the away lot. Thats a lot of fans standing at theur seats, but what says it is actually unsafe?
Anything but safe. I've seen incidents where people have pushed forward and it's been like a domino effect with people getting injured. Standing on the old terracing was much safer than the situation we have now.

On the subject of JHL 1-3, isn't this where people had season tickets suspended for standing.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:27 am
by claretburns
nonayclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:22 am
All this talk of "safe standing", are there any statistics of injuries at turf moor due to standing fans?
JHL blocks 1 -3 all normally stand, along with most of the CFS including the away lot. Thats a lot of fans standing at theur seats, but what says it is actually unsafe?
You make a good point of what is actually safe/unsafe about standing, from my own personal point of view, I suffer with my right knee a lot and so when having to stand for 90 minutes it would be great to have a barrier (which "safe standing" offers) to lean on during the game to take the weight off my knee.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:33 am
by ClaretTony
claretburns wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:27 am
You make a good point of what is actually safe/unsafe about standing, from my own personal point of view, I suffer with my right knee a lot and so when having to stand for 90 minutes it would be great to have a barrier (which "safe standing" offers) to lean on during the game to take the weight off my knee.
Imagine you are stood and the person behind accidentally pushes you. It could see you pushed over the seat in front etc, etc. There are so many cases of this happening. Totally agree too with the rail taking the weight off your knee. The difference for me in standing in a standard seating area compared to standing with a rail is massive.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:48 am
by BillyHamilton9
Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:57 pm
new pitch
It isn't. It's just had the usual annual summer works done.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:58 am
by NewClaret
BillyHamilton9 wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:48 am
It isn't. It's just had the usual annual summer works done.
Assumed as much. Pretty sure we would’ve got rid of the Astro given how much Vinny hates it, had we had a new pitch.

Re: Ground Improvements

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 12:31 pm
by nonayclaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:26 am
Anything but safe. I've seen incidents where people have pushed forward and it's been like a domino effect with people getting injured. Standing on the old terracing was much safer than the situation we have now.

On the subject of JHL 1-3, isn't this where people had season tickets suspended for standing.
I did ask if there were any actual injury statistics? or indeed from any ground. I agree its not as safe as the old barrier system although I spent many a game as a lad having the air pushed out of me by the weight of the Longside pushing forward. All part of the experience tehn!

I think 2 people were moved into JHU for standing, not sure why they were singled out. Everyone else continued to stand including the CFS.