Any news yet on who will be sponsoring our
shirts next season.

There are some rumblings on here that Dafabet are returning.

Should find out tomorrow who our sponsor is

burnmark wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:00 am

There are some rumblings on here that Dafabet are returning.

I've heard that one and W88 who were Fulham's shirt sponsors last season

1989_claret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:31 pm

Should find out tomorrow who our sponsor is

Is the home kit being revealed?

Believe not.

Roosterbooster wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:42 pm

Is the home kit being revealed?

I've heard mid-July

Just been leaked on the w88 website

https://w88.co.uk/

If it is W88 and the name on the shirt is like it was on Fulham’s shirt last year,a big W with w88 underneath,then Wout will probably stay as his initials will be on the shirt.

In addition to Fulham they've also previously sponsored C .Palace, Wolves and Villa

So once again a 'white label' betting company - that is both match and training kits

if you don't know hat I am talking about

https://twitter.com/MenarySteve/status/ ... 0173512704

much more the MMT about these white label betting operations

'one club for all' so long as you have the wherewithal

Well, CT on the money again.

Bit of a cock up to leak it the night before… has it just past midnight in Asia?!

While gambling companies are paying considerably more than non gambling companies we will keep signing deals.

Our competitors won't stop so we shouldn't give up the competitive advantage . These deals are easily a player or a chunk of a player

Another betting company = another shirt I won't be buying. Disappointed

Boxy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:56 pm

While gambling companies are paying considerably more than non gambling companies we will keep signing deals.

Our competitors won't stop so we shouldn't give up the competitive advantage . These deals are easily a player or a chunk of a player

Everyone will have to stop as the ban kicks in for the 2026/27 season.

Yeah so all teams will be milking it now

Boxy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:56 pm

While gambling companies are paying considerably more than non gambling companies we will keep signing deals.

Our competitors won't stop so we shouldn't give up the competitive advantage . These deals are easily a player or a chunk of a player

They paid Fulham £7 million for one season. If they pay us similar we can’t afford to turn it down. We need all the financial help we can get in the Premier League

Boxy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:59 pm

Yeah so all teams will be milking it now

And rightly so. Get that cash in whilst we can!

TPClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:00 pm

They paid Fulham £7 million for one season. If they pay us similar we can’t afford to turn it down. We need all the financial help we can get in the Premier League

that is an awful approach to taking on a sponsorship designed to circumvent legal restrictions in South East Asia
the fact that we now have two such sponsorships is even worse

TPClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:00 pm

They paid Fulham £7 million for one season. If they pay us similar we can’t afford to turn it down. We need all the financial help we can get in the Premier League

Completely agree

Each to their own but personally I really don’t care about what is on the front of the shirt, football is a business now and it’s all about who pays the most, also having a better firm doesn’t suddenly make me want to have a bet, nor did having classic football shirts make me go on their website and buy a new classic shirt and whilst I’m at it it’s having oak furniture land didn’t make me think about going to buy a new dining table

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:06 pm

Each to their own but personally I really don’t care about what is on the front of the shirt, football is a business now and it’s all about who pays the most, also having a better firm doesn’t suddenly make me want to have a bet, nor did having classic football shirts make me go on their website and buy a new classic shirt and whilst I’m at it it’s having oak furniture land didn’t make me think about going to buy a new dining table

I also didn't buy a computer from P3 Computers ...

Although our Kitchen Table and Side Board and Bed came from Oak Furniture Land, but not bought whilst they sponsored the shirt ... but because their products were what we wanted at a price that was right

It’s a sad reality that we are probably one of the most in need of getting into bed with these sorts of ‘companies’.

I don’t like it but until the option is no longer available, we aren’t left with much choice without being prepared to fall even further behind the rest, financially.

If we were prepared to take the moral high ground and opt for a reputable sponsor, there’d be plenty of backlash if it meant one or two fewer signings that would help our cause.

From what Pace has said previously, I assume it won’t sit comfortably with him. It’s money we can’t turn down. Hopefully down the line we may be able to attract better or comparable deals from elsewhere.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:57 pm

Another betting company = another shirt I won't be buying. Disappointed

Maybe (and I know it’s unlikely) we will do what WHU are doing and sell adult shirts without the Betway sponsor on them

Come on Chester Perry have a go at everyone else who says we can’t afford to turn it down. Not just me!

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:44 pm

Well, CT on the money again.

Bit of a cock up to leak it the night before… has it just past midnight in Asia?!

I’m not sure about the again

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:15 pm

Maybe (and I know it’s unlikely) we will do what WHU are doing and sell adult shirts without the Betway sponsor on them

Watford last week announced that they were joining the list of clubs selling shirts with or without their sponsors on.

There are obviously economic reasons why betting companies ( and other organisations, ) are queuing up to pay clubs handsomely for sponsoring their products on their shirts. Most of us would like to think that we are not influenced in any way by sponsorship but the companies themselves are anxious to sign deals. There must be something lucrative in it for them or they wouldn't be doing it.

I just feel sorry for our young fans who can’t have the same shirt as their heroes. Roll on 2025 when we’ll see the back of these betting company shirt sponsors.

Cabbage wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:55 pm

I just feel sorry for our young fans who can’t have the same shirt as their heroes. Roll on 2025 when we’ll see the back of these betting company shirt sponsors.

they will still be on sleeves and possibly paying more for that than the front of shirt sponsor

Cabbage wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:55 pm

I just feel sorry for our young fans who can’t have the same shirt as their heroes. Roll on 2025 when we’ll see the back of these betting company shirt sponsors.

When we first went with FUN88, the kids shirts had BFC82 instead, in the same styling, which admittedly didn’t look too bad

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:07 pm

When we first went with FUN88, the kids shirts had BFC82 instead, in the same styling, which admittedly didn’t look too bad

Fingers crossed they have an attractive alternative this season.

Boxy wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:59 pm

Yeah so all teams will be milking it now

That’s what makes it more vomit-inducing

Cabbage wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:55 pm

I just feel sorry for our young fans who can’t have the same shirt as their heroes. Roll on 2025 when we’ll see the back of these betting company shirt sponsors.

Every child is different but I can say my kids have never questioned before or noticed before that they have had a difference sponsor than the team before

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:58 pm

they will still be on sleeves and possibly paying more for that than the front of shirt sponsor

So it will be similar to sky bet sponsoring the Championship? My son couldn’t have sleeve flashes when we went down the first time under Dyche. He was very disappointed. Let’s not forget, the players are heroes to the younger fans and it is a big deal.

Makes no difference to me what is on it. I wouldn’t buy anything advertised unless I already wanted it. It’s a shame for young kids though who have to have something different to what the players actually wear.

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:06 pm

Each to their own but personally I really don’t care about what is on the front of the shirt, football is a business now and it’s all about who pays the most, also having a better firm doesn’t suddenly make me want to have a bet, nor did having classic football shirts make me go on their website and buy a new classic shirt and whilst I’m at it it’s having oak furniture land didn’t make me think about going to buy a new dining table

Absolutely valid opinion, but there will be many other fans who DO buy the furniture, classic shirt and, yes, start betting and become addicted to it because the name is on the shirts. The ones who are loyal, easily led, have an addictive personality and little self control.

Law of averages. Just like every time we go on the Turf there are 50 people whose birthday is on that exact day, there will over 100 addicted to gambling.

It’s abhorrent, immoral, and if the new owners have sanctioned it for a few extra quid they have gone down in my estimations after previous pronouncements.

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:51 pm

Absolutely valid opinion, but there will be many other fans who DO buy the furniture, classic shirt and, yes, start betting and become addicted to it because the name is on the shirts. The ones who are loyal, easily led, have an addictive personality and little self control.

Law of averages. Just like every time we go on the Turf there are 50 people whose birthday is on that exact day, there will over 100 addicted to gambling.

It’s abhorrent, immoral, and if the new owners have sanctioned it for a few extra quid they have gone down in my estimations after previous pronouncements.

it’s not the clubs fault if a gambling sponsor makes someone feel the need to gamble that is on the individual but I understand your point that it might make people who have addictive personalities but then if the club wanted to help people with Addictive personalities then they would need to remove alcohol from the ground. Every single sponsor if someone wanted to dig deep they could probably find something wrong with it’s past or some form or saga attached to it
No club outside the big clubs can turn down 6/7mil in a sponsorship deal

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:06 pm

No club outside the big clubs can turn down 6/7mil in a sponsorship deal

not true - every club can, they may not choose to, but they can - and it isn't £6m/£7m it is the difference between that and what non betting companies are offering

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:08 pm

not true - every club can, they may not choose to, but they can - and it isn't £6m/£7m it is the difference between that and what non betting companies are offering

The club obviously feel like they can’t afford to turn it down. You’re allowed your opinion on it and other people are allowed their opinion, you don’t agree with betting sponsors which is fine, I don’t think it matters at all.

If betting sites are to be banned from football then so should alcohol

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:51 pm

Absolutely valid opinion, but there will be many other fans who DO buy the furniture, classic shirt and, yes, start betting and become addicted to it because the name is on the shirts. The ones who are loyal, easily led, have an addictive personality and little self control.

Law of averages. Just like every time we go on the Turf there are 50 people whose birthday is on that exact day, there will over 100 addicted to gambling.

It’s abhorrent, immoral, and if the new owners have sanctioned it for a few extra quid they have gone down in my estimations after previous pronouncements.

The leap of “many fans betting and being addicted” isn’t in line with data. 0.2% of the betting population are at risk from problem gambling behaviours, as per the latest gambling commission reports. 99.8% of people enjoy a legitimate leisure activity with no risk of addiction.

Plus, you’ll see from the lack of UK based betting companies that people in the stands aren’t the target audience here. It’s a well established mature market now…. Many sponsorships don’t provide much roi, only the odd exceptional linkup that matches the brands very well, be it in football, horse racing (legacy deals mainly still standing, sponsorship in other areas shrinking) or anything else.

The club had better stop selling Hollands pies then as they'll be blamed for all the overweight people out there.

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:13 pm

The club obviously feel like they can’t afford to turn it down. You’re allowed your opinion on it and other people are allowed their opinion, you don’t agree with betting sponsors which is fine, I don’t think it matters at all.

Well the club would be able to do a lot more if it hadn't had to:

- lend the owners £49.8m to pay for shares
- facilitate a loan with MSD to pay for shares that saw it pay over £10m in interest, over £2m in penalty fees and repay £33.2m
- before having to bear the burden on a refinancing loan of £39.7m (that cleared a debt of £32.8m) with annual interest of almost £3m a year, a figure that could be the difference between a gambling and non gambling sponsor

there is the further issue of what these 'white label' betting sponsors represent - there is much that is wrong with this beyond the issue of gambling per se

I've never really understood what Fun88, LoveBet, Dafabet, SpreadEx get out of it. Is it really worth the what? Six, seven, eight million they put in?

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:26 pm

Well the club would be able to do a lot more if it hadn't had to:

- lend the owners £49.8m to pay for shares
- facilitate a loan with MSD to pay for shares that saw it pay over £10m in interest, over £2m in penalty fees and repay £33.2m
- before having to bear the burden on a refinancing loan of £39.7m (that cleared a debt of £32.8m) with annual interest of almost £3m a year, a figure that could be the difference between a gambling and non gambling sponsor

there is the further issue of what these 'white label' betting sponsors represent - there is much that is wrong with this beyond the issue of gambling per se

This thread is about the new shirt sponsor not the way the owners financed the club, so I don’t know what you have mentioned the figures you have above.

What’s your opinion on alcohol being served on the ground?

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:26 pm

Well the club would be able to do a lot more if it hadn't had to:

- lend the owners £49.8m to pay for shares
- facilitate a loan with MSD to pay for shares that saw it pay over £10m in interest, over £2m in penalty fees and repay £33.2m
- before having to bear the burden on a refinancing loan of £39.7m (that cleared a debt of £32.8m) with annual interest of almost £3m a year, a figure that could be the difference between a gambling and non gambling sponsor

there is the further issue of what these 'white label' betting sponsors represent - there is much that is wrong with this beyond the issue of gambling per se

Also didn’t we have gambling sponsors before the new ownership, so the above is irrelevant

Pickles wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:43 pm

I've never really understood what Fun88, LoveBet, Dafabet, SpreadEx get out of it. Is it really worth the what? Six, seven, eight million they put in?

Shhhh!

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:47 pm

What’s your opinion on alcohol being served on the ground?

Too be fair to the owners, they do their best to limit who gets a pint at half time with their lack of staff.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:55 pm

Too be fair to the owners, they do their best to limit who gets a pint at half time with their lack of staff.

Very good point made, if you don’t go down before minute 38 you have no chance of a drink in longside upper

Pickles wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:43 pm

I've never really understood what Fun88, LoveBet, Dafabet, SpreadEx get out of it. Is it really worth the what? Six, seven, eight million they put in?

Apparenty lots of gambling addicts