• Baltimore

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:22 am**

More gun crime. Multiple dead and injured
Them yanks are ******

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:37 am**

How many more of these incidents need to happen before the government wake up and ban guns….oh no they can’t, it’s in the constitution…I reserve the right to bear arms and kill people…..

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 am**

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:57 am**

ClaretDiver wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:37 am
How many more of these incidents need to happen before the government wake up and ban guns….oh no they can’t, it’s in the constitution…I reserve the right to bear arms and kill people…..

It's an amendment to the constitution

Seems like an obvious solution to me

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:14 am**

It's the society they want to live in though
They want easy access to guns and all that it entails

We all know the 2A is out of date and has been bastardised

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:19 am**

What they need to do is keep all the dealers and fiends in one area to basically do what they want….

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:33 am**

blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:19 am
What they need to do is keep all the dealers and fiends in one area to basically do what they want….

… And give it a name, something like Hamsterdam?

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:35 am**

blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:19 am
What they need to do is keep all the dealers and fiends in one area to basically do what they want….

And call it a prison

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:45 am**

It’s a tragedy that this is still a fairly regular occurrence in the supposed greatest nation on earth.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:46 am**

There's been more mass shootings than days of the week in the USA this year

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:47 am**

Pretty mild by US standards if true-30 injured 3 critically and two dead
Don’t think they will ever deal with these problems
Wasn’t a response from Trump to stop school massacres to get teachers armed?
Think there are more guns in the US civilians hands than there are civilians

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:20 pm**

They need to get the gun trace task force on it.

It'll sort this city out!

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:29 pm**

we just gotta keep the devil
way down in the hole

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:35 pm**

Saw a clip of a teacher showing a new feature in her classroom. In the corner, amongst books and crayons, was a lever she could pull which released concertinaed metal walls. This created a room within a room where she could usher in her pretty much baby students and hope for the best if/when some lunatic picks their school.

Then there's the bulletproof rucksacks etc.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 2:08 pm**

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 am
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

I can actually hear this post.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 3:25 pm**

the NRA pay Republican members of Congress to do their bidding, until that stops nothing will change.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 4:32 pm**

The NRA’s dominance is as assured as the pill pushers. Any President brave enough to try to ban guns had better save it until their second term.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:13 pm**

The sad state of affairs in the USA. More will care less about the number of deaths than their right to own a gun.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:38 pm**

It's some city. Had a night there once to watch the Orioles play the Yankees. Walked from the waterfront area to Camden Yard. Not a pretty walk TBH. Next day we were going up to JFK and the sat nav took us right through some really deprived areas. Burnt out cars. Deserted tenement blocks and shady looking individuals on each block. Not a nice place at all.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 6:07 pm**

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:20 pm
They need to get the gun trace task force on it.

It'll sort this city out!

Baltimore is/was the murder capital of the US, when I lived near there early 2000s.
I do vividly recall a early hrs encounter at the greyhound station (sketchy), between 2 groups weilding guns.
Was relieved when the dog turned up.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:10 pm**

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 am
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

Had to log in to show my appreciation for this.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:17 pm**

For the uninitiated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:31 pm**

Roosterbooster wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:57 am
It's an amendment to the constitution

Seems like an obvious solution to me

Civil war would ensue .......its the machine gun type weapons that should be banned, Bill Clinton did it once & mass shootings went way down.

The way it works now, someone loses their rag at work eg... heads down to a sports goods store or even Walmart, buys a machine gun & starts killing. There's absolutely no reason anyone needs one of these weapons.

Posted: **Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:51 pm**

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:50 am
Shoooooooooooooooooot!

Fixed it!

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:23 am**

Feel terrible saying this but I really don’t feel sorry for them any more. As long as the gun lobby and the American Rifle Association have the power they have nothing will change. It seems in this world you get what you deserve.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:16 am**

houseboy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:23 am
Feel terrible saying this but I really don’t feel sorry for them any more. As long as the gun lobby and the American Rifle Association have the power they have nothing will change. It seems in this world you get what you deserve.

I’m sure that’s of great solace to the victims and their families, especially those school shootings.

Or we recognise that we can actually separate the deeply messed up relationship the country has with fire arms, from the victims of these atrocities.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:19 am**

Fun fact - Wallace is now a co-owner at Bournemouth

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:56 pm**

RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:16 am
I’m sure that’s of great solace to the victims and their families, especially those school shootings.

Or we recognise that we can actually separate the deeply messed up relationship the country has with fire arms, from the victims of these atrocities.

Apologies for the seemingly unsympathetic nature of my post because obviously people have lost loved ones, but the power is there to change things if there was the will. But as long as Trump and his like and their lunatic supporters hold sway then nothing will be done. Whenever a president or government has even raised the issue of gun controls the whole world hears the cry of 'no' from the great American public. They have two problems. One is it is written into the constitution and although it can be changed it is very difficult for it to be done, it requires a whole process including votes etc. The American constitution is not easily (and indeed very rarely) changed. The other problem is the unbelievable power of the American Rifle Association and the gun lobby in general. Given also that firearms production is presumably a very major industry in the US (this is an assumption but one would assume it to be the case) there is also pressure from that industry to oppose gun controls. I am not a gambling man but I am willing to bet this issue will still be being discussed in 50 years time and still there will be no controls and people will still be being massacred and families will still be mourning loved ones. It's a system that cannot seemingly be changed unless there is a serious and fundamental change in the American mindset generally and a breaking of the gun lobby grip in particular, neither of which looks even remotely likely any time soon.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:14 pm**

houseboy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:56 pm
Apologies for the seemingly unsympathetic nature of my post because obviously people have lost loved ones, but the power is there to change things if there was the will. But as long as Trump and his like and their lunatic supporters hold sway then nothing will be done. Whenever a president or government has even raised the issue of gun controls the whole world hears the cry of 'no' from the great American public. They have two problems. One is it is written into the constitution and although it can be changed it is very difficult for it to be done, it requires a whole process including votes etc. The American constitution is not easily (and indeed very rarely) changed. The other problem is the unbelievable power of the American Rifle Association and the gun lobby in general. Given also that firearms production is presumably a very major industry in the US (this is an assumption but one would assume it to be the case) there is also pressure from that industry to oppose gun controls. I am not a gambling man but I am willing to bet this issue will still be being discussed in 50 years time and still there will be no controls and people will still be being massacred and families will still be mourning loved ones. It's a system that cannot seemingly be changed unless there is a serious and fundamental change in the American mindset generally and a breaking of the gun lobby grip in particular, neither of which looks even remotely likely any time soon.

https://www.facebook.com/humanrightscam ... 464646877/

You can see the exact same hypocrisy as above when the American right talk about their pro-life stance where they will do anything they can to force a pregnant person to have a baby but then don't give a flying f*ck around supporting that childs life once it is born

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:27 pm**

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:14 pm
https://www.facebook.com/humanrightscam ... 464646877/

You can see the exact same hypocrisy as above when the American right talk about their pro-life stance where they will do anything they can to force a pregnant person to have a baby but then don't give a flying f*ck around supporting that childs life once it is born

George Carlin did a classic stand up bit making this exact point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkMbMidsYIM (about 40 seconds in)

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:47 pm**

When Steve Earle released the song 'Devil's Right Hand' he was asked if it was an anti gun song, he just said 'It's way too late for gun control in the USA'.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:50 pm**

houseboy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:56 pm
Apologies for the seemingly unsympathetic nature of my post because obviously people have lost loved ones, but the power is there to change things if there was the will. But as long as Trump and his like and their lunatic supporters hold sway then nothing will be done. Whenever a president or government has even raised the issue of gun controls the whole world hears the cry of 'no' from the great American public. They have two problems. One is it is written into the constitution and although it can be changed it is very difficult for it to be done, it requires a whole process including votes etc. The American constitution is not easily (and indeed very rarely) changed. The other problem is the unbelievable power of the American Rifle Association and the gun lobby in general. Given also that firearms production is presumably a very major industry in the US (this is an assumption but one would assume it to be the case) there is also pressure from that industry to oppose gun controls. I am not a gambling man but I am willing to bet this issue will still be being discussed in 50 years time and still there will be no controls and people will still be being massacred and families will still be mourning loved ones. It's a system that cannot seemingly be changed unless there is a serious and fundamental change in the American mindset generally and a breaking of the gun lobby grip in particular, neither of which looks even remotely likely any time soon.

Sorry if I came across as sanctimonious. You’re absolutely right, the country is gripped and paralysed by the fact it has a massive part of it that is frankly demented, but that’s not to say they are representative of everyone. My brother lives in the States (Mike Pence town no less) and he, his wife and their friends are as far from these lunatics as you could find, and it’s they that I think of when I see comments that (deliberately or not) sweep up everyone into one mass.

It’s interesting. I wonder how big a part the constitution and its concept plays in this, and how now, 250ish years on it breaks rather than makes the country. I’ve just finished re listening to a series of podcasts on the American civil war and it talks about how the seeds of that conflict were sown in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and how those conflicts still play out with such damage now. And gun control is absolutely caught up in that mentality. I’m not talking about the amendment itself but the way the constitution itself almost sanctifies things beyond rational discussion. Right now you just can’t see a way that America can do that. After they sat on their hands after Sandy Hook you knew which way it would go, and you’re absolutely bang on as to those reasons.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:19 pm**

I've got an American on twitter asking me if I want a new 4th Reich because I support gun control and so did the Nazis, afterall look at what they did after taking the guns away from people...

That's the mindset of these idiots, they've been indoctrinated into thinking they must have guns, that guns will solve everything.

He also claimed the Nazis were left wing to give further indication of his ignorance/stupidity

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:45 pm**

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:19 pm
I've got an American on twitter asking me if I want a new 4th Reich because I support gun control and so did the Nazis, afterall look at what they did after taking the guns away from people...

That's the mindset of these idiots, they've been indoctrinated into thinking they must have guns, that guns will solve everything.

He also claimed the Nazis were left wing to give further indication of his ignorance/stupidity

That person is obviously insane and / or a troll.

The reason America finds itself in such a state isn’t people like that, it’s that there are enough people who are outwardly rational that think having a gun is a God given right. Often emphasis on the ‘God’.

The mouth frothers may get the attention, but it needs more than them to retain the status quo.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:05 pm**

Anyone using god as justification is also a mouth frother

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:19 pm**

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:05 pm
Anyone using god as justification is also a mouth frother

Personally, I’d agree.

But I’d also say it fundamentally misses one of the things that makes the states so different from us, and denying it as a factor probably wouldn’t advance anything.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:25 pm**

RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:19 pm
Personally, I’d agree.

But I’d also say it fundamentally misses one of the things that makes the states so different from us, and denying it as a factor probably wouldn’t advance anything.

Oh I'm aware they use god as justification, because they've been brainwashed and it would require a monumental shift in mentality to see any real change

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:04 pm**

blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:19 am
What they need to do is keep all the dealers and fiends in one area to basically do what they want….

Like Manhattan Island? Seal it off and leave em to it.

Just hope the President doesn't crash there.

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:11 pm**

ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:04 pm
Like Manhattan Island? Seal it off and leave em to it.

Just hope the President doesn't crash there.

Snake Plissken would rescue him though

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:12 pm**

blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:19 am
What they need to do is keep all the dealers and fiends in one area to basically do what they want….

But these are not gangland shootings are they?

They are people going into schools and crowded public areas and opening fire on anyone that moves.

How would you stop that when it has absolutely nothing to do with drug dealers?

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:30 pm**

blatherwickstattoos wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:19 am
What they need to do is keep all the dealers and fiends in one area to basically do what they want….

They do.

It's called the White House

Posted: **Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:21 pm**

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:35 pm
Saw a clip of a teacher showing a new feature in her classroom. In the corner, amongst books and crayons, was a lever she could pull which released concertinaed metal walls. This created a room within a room where she could usher in her pretty much baby students and hope for the best if/when some lunatic picks their school.

Then there's the bulletproof rucksacks etc.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuK3MFII ... BiNWFlZA==

This one?

Posted: **Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:05 pm**

Damo wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:30 pm
They do.

It's called the White House

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va ... t-service/

Posted: **Wed Jul 05, 2023 9:30 am**

RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:33 am
… And give it a name, something like Hamsterdam?

5 o 5 o

Posted: **Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:43 am**

Damo wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:30 pm
They do.

It's called the White House

Absolutely true. The White House and the Pentagon will quite happily kill lots of innocent civilians, so long as they also kill anyone who disagrees with American foreign policy at the same time.

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