Chess puzzle
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:09 pm
- White plays up, checkmate in 2 moves
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New puzzle! Checkmate in 2 moves…
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:16 pm
Nice puzzle! This one didnt take too long, but I do a lot of puzzles!
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:17 pm
A board wouldn't make it this far ... would be kicked and the chessy bits would be all over the floor
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:41 pm
Like lots of puzzles - I doubt any game is ever going to get into this situation, but that's not the point!
Takes me back to when we were given a big folder of chess puzzles by our headmaster, Mr Bleazard
Takes me back to when we were given a big folder of chess puzzles by our headmaster, Mr Bleazard
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:24 am
The board is horrible to look at. Make me think I have some sort of OCD to chess boards.
But I presume the queen taking the pawn at G7 and then E5 wins it?
But I presume the queen taking the pawn at G7 and then E5 wins it?
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:29 am
Other way around, but pretty much there.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:32 am
Actually, trying to work out if there's any out if we go your way around. Not seen any yet....
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:32 am
But it would be more than 2 moves...
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:08 am
The Knight at f8 could move to d7 (protecting the pawn at e5) to delay to 3 moves. But would be a silly move in a game as it would be taken straight away.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:15 am
Re5x K e4 (forced)
Bd4 mate
Bd4 mate
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:18 am
Does anyone on here play on Gameknot? Just wondered. Used to play for Rossendale in the East Lancs chess league years ago but only online now. If anyone ever fancies on online game give me a shout.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:35 am
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:43 am
Arggh wait, that's not right either!
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:27 am
I think it's bishop takes pawn at G3, doesn't matter what black does, rook takes pawn at E5
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:38 am
It's the 2 move thing which is annoying me.
You're right - BxG3 leads to mate too. But pointless as it is, PxD6 leads to check which will draw it out longer than 2 moves. In fact, that move rules out a bunch of answers on the basis it will add an extra move (or two).
Thats why I thought you'd have to put black into check on white's next move to rule this out...
You're right - BxG3 leads to mate too. But pointless as it is, PxD6 leads to check which will draw it out longer than 2 moves. In fact, that move rules out a bunch of answers on the basis it will add an extra move (or two).
Thats why I thought you'd have to put black into check on white's next move to rule this out...
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:38 am
The Knight at f8 could move to d7 (protecting the pawn at e5) to delay to 3 moves. But would be a silly move in a game as it would be taken straight awaykendaldave wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:27 amI think it's bishop takes pawn at G3, doesn't matter what black does, rook takes pawn at E5
That's what I said about my way, could be the same with yours.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:47 am
Its Qg8 - cant stop that
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:48 am
And I kept trying to move the black pawns the wrong way due to the massively unnatural board position!
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:29 pm
I know because it is as I said. Rxp (e5) forces the King followed by the Bishop move and the King has nowhere to go. Mate.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:37 pm
RXpe5check
King f3 (sorry...typo on my first post)
Bishop d5 Mate (also a typo on my first post).
Apologies for the typos on the first post...I was flicking up and down between posts. Anyway that is the answer.
King f3 (sorry...typo on my first post)
Bishop d5 Mate (also a typo on my first post).
Apologies for the typos on the first post...I was flicking up and down between posts. Anyway that is the answer.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:46 pm
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:51 pm
Houseboy...I'm not good at chess but if RXpe5 then couldn't the king just take the rook at e5 to get out of the check rather than move to f3? If not, then once at f3 couldn't the king take the pawn at f2 to prolong the game?
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:03 pm
Why didn't Black take the Queen on the previous move as it is threatened from Knight and Rook?
I don't do these thing nor have I played Chess for about 40 years, it may be obvious
I don't do these thing nor have I played Chess for about 40 years, it may be obvious
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:31 pm
Qxh4
Then either Rxg4 or Qxg4
Then either Rxg4 or Qxg4
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:59 pm
Bugger! Just seen this
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:02 pm
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:31 pm
Rxg4
RxRg4
P to g5 mate
RxRg4
P to g5 mate
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:27 pm
White playing up the table?
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:42 pm
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:56 pm
It's Qg8 I still reckon. Can't see how it's not mate in 2.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:05 pm
Ha ha. I said I was flipping up and down the thread. Yes, I was playing the board upside down and thinking the Rook was protected by the pawn. What a knobhead. I’ve played thousands of games and still play most days and I missed that.eastanglianclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:51 pmHouseboy...I'm not good at chess but if RXpe5 then couldn't the king just take the rook at e5 to get out of the check rather than move to f3? If not, then once at f3 couldn't the king take the pawn at f2 to prolong the game?
I’ll have a rethink.Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:15 pm
Yep. Don’t have it confirmed yet but pretty sure that’s itCaymanClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:56 pmIt's Qg8 I still reckon. Can't see how it's not mate in 2.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:18 pm
Feels like we're all losing our marbles on this one!CaymanClaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:56 pmIt's Qg8 I still reckon. Can't see how it's not mate in 2.
It's Qxg7 isn't it?
Then Qx6g if the black knight moves there, or Qxe5 if it doesn't.
I am preparing to backtrack as I type
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:24 pm
Queen to G8 is the first move, then bishop to D5. Can't be stopped.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:25 pm
I now think it’s queen takes rook. The king can’t move and anything black does leaves mate in one.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:28 pm
Yes it can. Black Knight to E6duncandisorderly wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:24 pmQueen to G8 is the first move, then bishop to D5. Can't be stopped.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:31 pm
Black Knight to D7 stops thisQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:24 amThe board is horrible to look at. Make me think I have some sort of OCD to chess boards.
But I presume the queen taking the pawn at G7 and then E5 wins it?
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:34 pm
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:38 pm
Rxg4
RxRg4
Qh4 mate
RxRg4
Qh4 mate
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:21 pm
As it stands, the Black King cannot legally move anywhere and so that's how we should approach this puzzle.
1. Rxe5+ Kxe5
2. Qxg7+ 1-0
1. Rxe5+ Kxe5
2. Qxg7+ 1-0
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:33 pm
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Or if Knight plays check, Queen takes Knight. Mate.kendaldave wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:27 amI think it's bishop takes pawn at G3, doesn't matter what black does, rook takes pawn at E5
Bishop taking pawn is the key.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:11 pm
Done it. Qxg7 threatening Qxe5 mate. The only thing that can prevent that is the knight sacrifice Knxg6 to protect the e5 pawn. But then QxKn is mate.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:20 am
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:29 am
Cayman has it
queen to g8 then bishop to d5 or queen to a8 if B knight blocks bishop move
queen to g8 then bishop to d5 or queen to a8 if B knight blocks bishop move
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:48 am
Nice
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:00 am
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:59 am
Think you’re right here bud. Qg8 threatens mate with Bishop. Knight blocks Bishop (only move I can see) and Qa8 is mate.
I love chess and have played thousands of games against people all over the world but puzzles do my head in, largely because they don’t normally reflect any real game play. I can’t imagine a situation where this position would result from any normal game play.
Re: Chess puzzle
Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:09 am
But Croydon's post above yours shows a black solution.houseboy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:59 amThink you’re right here bud. Qg8 threatens mate with Bishop. Knight blocks Bishop (only move I can see) and Qa8 is mate.
I love chess and have played thousands of games against people all over the world but puzzles do my head in, largely because they don’t normally reflect any real game play. I can’t imagine a situation where this position would result from any normal game play.
The more you look at this bloody thing the more impossible it seems. My thinking is you have to try to keep black in check so it cannot do any other moves.