Reports over here that Biden has broken Royal protocol by holding the Kings arm and walking ahead of him !

Just wait till he gets lost as he frequently does here

Is he obliged to observe royal protocols? I'm not sure why he should have to - imagine not being allowed to walk ahead of someone

As he is in the UK I would assume so

Does he even know he's in London?

As for showing disrespect to the king, unintentionally or not... GOOD!

Guessing it wasn’t as bad as Trump’s wandering hands ?
I’m sure King Chally can get revenge on the reciprocal visit to the states by breaking the Presidential protocol and not carrying a firearm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:29 pm

Is he obliged to observe royal protocols? I'm not sure why he should have to - imagine not being allowed to walk ahead of someone

Not obliged at all but it is courteous to do so. This jerk has very little of that when it comes to the English.

Good on him

"God save the Queen" ...

Sleepy puppet joe only in that position as an establishment fix up. Oh well he’s out at the next election.

Hopefully he will not try to sell out a European country to the russkies or maybe try to end Nato.
That would be the actions of an absolute c***

Huge "Trump won whatever the voters say and I'm so not over it" vibes on this thread

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:26 pm

Huge "Trump won whatever the voters say and I'm so not over it" vibes on this thread

Not fair! No new Messiah to follow now meatball Ron is failing so badly in FC's home state.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:26 pm

Huge "Trump won whatever the voters say and I'm so not over it" vibes on this thread

Donnie did win, he said so himself

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:07 pm

Good on him

Care to elaborate?

Sleazy American politician - sleazy American President - Just like the last one and many before.

Voting for a politician because you think he is going to be less of a turd than the one before is liking having a different seafood dish at the same seafood restaurant because the last two meals you had there gave you the shits.

This coming election, despite the age of both candidates is going to be so much fun to watch.

Guller Bull wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:34 pm

Sleazy American politician - sleazy American President - Just like the last one and many before.

Voting for a politician because you think he is going to be less of a turd than the one before is liking having a different seafood dish at the same seafood restaurant because the last two meals you had there gave you the shits.

Thank God that British politic are going so well and sleaze free.

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:36 pm

Thank God that British politic are going so well and sleaze free.

They are not - they are politicians.

Guller Bull wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:37 pm

They are not - they are politicians.

So do not get involved, just wisecrack about it?

Anybody have any thoughts about Biden sending cluster bombs to Ukraine as USA has run out of regular ammunition!!

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:38 pm

So do not get involved, just wisecrack about it?

Its a football message board, not Question Time, tbf

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:40 pm

Anybody have any thoughts about Biden sending cluster bombs to Ukraine as USA has run out of regular ammunition!!

Both sides have been using them since Day 1

Russia, Ukraine and the US still have no laws against them being used in war

The way you've phrased the question does rather suggest you didn't know about either

(I'm against it btw, but its not my country that is getting shredded by Russia)

Guller Bull wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:34 pm

Voting for a politician because you think he is going to be less of a turd than the one before is liking having a different seafood dish at the same seafood restaurant because the last two meals you had there gave you the shits.

Bet you loved the last Tory leadership election on that basis

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:45 pm

Both sides have been using them since Day 1

Russia, Ukraine and the US still have no laws against them being used in war

The way you've phrased the question does rather suggest you didn't know about either

(I'm against it btw, but its not my country that is getting shredded by Russia)

Interesting how things get reported differently in different countries.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:48 pm

Bet you loved the last Tory leadership election on that basis

Classic example.

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:49 pm

Interesting how things get reported differently in different countries.

Look, how can I put this?

You believe a lot of stuff that just isn't true on this

It is 100% up to you if you do or not, but like a few posters on here, you are so far down the rabbit hole that its going to require a lot to come out of it

And if you are, er, "set in your ways" then you ain't coming out

bobinho wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:31 pm

Care to elaborate?

Biden probably didn’t do it knowingly but if he did, good on Joe Biden for not conforming to any silly ‘Royal Protocols’

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:56 pm

Biden probably didn’t do it knowingly but if he did, good on Joe Biden for not conforming to any silly ‘Royal Protocols’

Dangerous ground for a world leader to go to other countries and ignore traditions and protocols. Not good diplomatically.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:52 pm

Look, how can I put this?

You believe a lot of stuff that just isn't true on this

It is 100% up to you if you do or not, but like a few posters on here, you are so far down the rabbit hole that its going to require a lot to come out of it

And if you are, er, "set in your ways" then you ain't coming out

You have no idea what I believe or read. As far as I can remember I have read nothing about cluster bombs until this last few days. My main point was that Biden stated that USA is basically out of ammunition.

Guller Bull wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:47 pm

Not quite sure what you mean by do not get involved. I could offer you a bit of advice and tell you to become less involved and not vote next time. You would however probably jump down my throat and tell me that"if you dont vote for x,y or z then x,y or z are going to get in" I get that but again that's like picking the best of the worst and that isn't working
So until they "collectively" pick up their game 'kin substantially then I will exercise my right to not vote and carry on with the wisecracks ta.

Why would they pick up their game?
Change does not come from the leaderships it can only come from the voters.
Trump is running again, and will win the nomination for Republican candidate, because 30 percent of their voters can not see him for what he is, and will not vote if he does not win the nomination, therefore damaging every level of the Republican ticket.
The voters are the problem.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:56 pm

Biden probably didn’t do it knowingly but if he did, good on Joe Biden for not conforming to any silly ‘Royal Protocols’

Just wondering really why the statement accompanied a picture of Biden with Gerry Adams.

ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:42 pm

Its a football message board, not Question Time, tbf

I was kind of hinting at someone refusing to vote.

Its like not eating a creamcake and then slamming the bakery.
The reasons politicians do what they do, is because the voters either:
A) let them
B) do not vote in protest.

The creamcake reference was not for lactose intolerant readers btw

bobinho wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:05 pm

Just wondering really why the statement accompanied a picture of Biden with Gerry Adams.

Thought that would be pretty self evident.

Complaining about some silly made up ‘protocol’ so I showed a picture of Biden with Adams who’s been critical of the British Monarchy for his entire political career.

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:04 pm

You have no idea what I believe or read. As far as I can remember I have read nothing about cluster bombs until this last few days. My main point was that Biden stated that USA is basically out of ammunition.

I have because of what you post on here

Seems, probably unsurprisingly, quite a big deterioration in him over the past year or so.
Crazy that he’s even in that position given his age, never mind trying to do another term.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:12 pm

Seems, probably unsurprisingly, quite a big deterioration in him over the past year or so.
Crazy that he’s even in that position given his age, never mind trying to do another term.

Nobody to replace him in a head to head with the orange one unfortunately.
But he DOES listen to his advisors and experts.

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:14 pm

Nobody to replace him in a head to head with the orange one unfortunately.
But he DOES listen to his advisors and experts.

Bobby K Jr would be a great president

Biden barely knows what day it is , and it’s a tragedy seeing this poor guy in the serial grip of mental decline like a performing dummy . Even with the best doctors in the world he seems to barely know where he is . While I appreciate he’s not capable of wiping his ar@e never mind making serious decisions,can’t the Democrats allow him to stand down due to his health issues ? Fair play to him for keeping going but he could literally “ die on duty “ . With all the will in the world he just cannot stand again in the next election .

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:05 pm

Why would they pick up their game?
Change does not come from the leaderships it can only come from the voters.
Trump is running again, and will win the nomination for Republican candidate, because 30 percent of their voters can not see him for what he is, and will not vote if he does not win the nomination, therefore damaging every level of the Republican ticket.
The voters are the problem.

I think we agree on the voters being the problem but probably for different reasons. Listen Trump appears to be an absolute bell end. Biden appears to be slightly less so but still isn't somebody who appears trustworthy and that I would want to lead.

I can't understand what you mean by the statement "Change does not come from the leaderships it can only come from the voters. " ??

Do you actually believe this? In that case then surely you would be on the same thinking as me in that the real power that a voter has to show that they will not be misled into voting for a system that refuses to change, is to exercise their democracy and NOT VOTE. It is surely the clearest message that we wont tolerate politicians maintaining a knackered status quo.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:16 pm

Bobby K Jr would be a great president

No. No he will not.
His Missus would be a fantastic first lady however.

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:17 pm

Biden barely knows what day it is , and it’s a tragedy seeing this poor guy in the serial grip of mental decline like a performing dummy . Even with the best doctors in the world he seems to barely know where he is . While I appreciate he’s not capable of wiping his ar@e never mind making serious decisions,can’t the Democrats allow him to stand down due to his health issues ? Fair play to him for keeping going but he could literally “ die on duty “ . With all the will in the world he just cannot stand again in the next election .

Literally not fit to write is own will, yet leader of the free world, and by a distance the most suitable candidate from those named on this thread. Crazy times.

Guller Bull wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:18 pm

I think we agree on the voters being the problem but probably for different reasons. Listen Trump appears to be an absolute bell end. Biden appears to be slightly less so but still isn't somebody who appears trustworthy and that I would want to lead.

I can't understand what you mean by the statement "Change does not come from the leaderships it can only come from the voters. " ??

Do you actually believe this? In that case then surely you would be on the same thinking as me in that the real power that a voter has to show that they will not be misled into voting for a system that refuses to change, is to exercise their democracy and NOT VOTE. It is surely the clearest message that we wont tolerate politicians maintaining a knackered status quo.

We do share a level of agreement.
However, democracy is voting for the best of **** choices. Most people who do not vote are intelligent people who see the system for what it is.
But as a result, he best of bad choices loses, and the worst wins.

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:14 pm

Nobody to replace him in a head to head with the orange one unfortunately.
But he DOES listen to his advisors and experts.

If Kompany left Burnley this summer and we had to choose between a guy who you wouldn’t back to survive his contract and a guy who tried to burn down Turf Moor then serious questions would be asked about the process.

That’s for something as insignificant as football.

Stanbill05 wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:20 pm

Literally not fit to write is own will, yet leader of the free world, and by a distance the most suitable candidate from those named on this thread. Crazy times.

Doing a fantastic job of dodging the minefield in Ukraine without overstepping red lines.
Doing a great job domestically,in lowering inflation after the clusterf*** of the pandemic, without so far creating a domestic and worldwide recession.
Who would you put up against the orange one in his place?
Serious question

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:18 pm

No. No he will not.
His Missus would be a fantastic first lady however.

I listened to him on Lex Friedman and he made a lot of sense…

I’ve just had another browse on his policies and such and just seen that he’s massively anti-vaxx so I would like to retract my statement.

Yeah the ‘24 presidential nominees really aren’t good.

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:17 pm

Biden barely knows what day it is , and it’s a tragedy seeing this poor guy in the serial grip of mental decline like a performing dummy . Even with the best doctors in the world he seems to barely know where he is . While I appreciate he’s not capable of wiping his ar@e never mind making serious decisions,can’t the Democrats allow him to stand down due to his health issues ? Fair play to him for keeping going but he could literally “ die on duty “ . With all the will in the world he just cannot stand again in the next election .

He’s probably the safest bet for them. If he’s their nomination you can only begin to imagine the dirt the press would have and be prepared to publish on anyone else in their party.

Seems crazy but it could just be damage limitation. Better the world assumes the President is a little bit senile than whatever is lurking on the others closets….

Sleepy Joe or Trump. Jeez……

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:22 pm

If Kompany left Burnley this summer and we had to choose between a guy who you wouldn’t back to survive his contract and a guy who tried to burn down Turf Moor then serious questions would be asked about the process.

That’s for something as insignificant as football.

THAT is a discussion for a different time.
The system is awful. But it is the system. Considering what he inherited, Biden is the best man for the job , so far.
He lets the experts make the decisions for him, like all good presidents have done.
The war in Ukraine would be completely different now, if somebody else had run and lost to Trump.
It would be over, and not in a good way.
Similarly, some young brash Democrat ,most likely would have had his arse handed to him by Trump or if not, maybe he would have been more adventurous and upscaled the war to involvement.
Who knows, but Biden has done OK, and OK in this **** show is as good as it gets.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:26 pm

I listened to him on Lex Friedman and he made a lot of sense…

I’ve just had another browse on his policies and such and just seen that he’s massively anti-vaxx so I would like to retract my statement.

Yeah the ‘24 presidential nominees really aren’t good.

I agree, his anti vax stuff is loco.
I stand by my comment on his missus though.

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 3:21 pm

We do share a level of agreement.
However, democracy is voting for the best of **** choices. Most people who do not vote are intelligent people who see the system for what it is.
But as a result, he best of bad choices loses, and the worst wins.

The problem I have with that is that it breeds an apathy. Political arguments don't create change they just chuck out red or blue smoke bombs which are designed to cause confusion and hide the root problems. Politics generally divides and you only have to look at the arguments on here.
People become polarised by their political colour and cannot stray from the party line. It doesn't allow for free thinking and change.

So much time is spent at local and national government level arguing over petty political point scoring. Somehow we have to find a way to move forward, working together and sharing a vision rather than continually breaking each other into bits.

grapidianclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:36 pm

Thank God that British politic are going so well and sleaze free.

We have a dearth of electable, decent politicians in the West. USA and here and ....... exemplifies this.