Will we see him again in a Burnley shirt?

Yes

Brownhill, on the other hand…

Yes? Am I missing something?

Hopefully we do, more concerned about when we'll see Muric in a Burnley shirt again we miss him badly

When he had the ball today he was immediately surrounded by 4 Villa players and had no back up from Roberts

Why wouldn't we? Someone in for him?

Why was Brownhill not playing? Signed for someone else?

Seeing Dinge leave him for dead after about 15 minutes confirmed to me he shouldn’t be starting games for us.

Impact sub only.

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:44 pm

Seeing Dinge leave him for dead after about 15 minutes confirmed to me he shouldn’t be starting games for us.

Impact sub only.

Agree there, Digne had the freedom of the Longside that first half

bumba wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:42 pm

Hopefully we do, more concerned about when we'll see Muric in a Burnley shirt again we miss him badly

We seem to have changed the way we play, with Trafford in goal. Is that simply because Trafford doesn’t have it in his locker or is it a change to how we are going to play?

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:42 pm

Yes? Am I missing something?

Just an ominous feeling. Hopefully just being pessimistic.

We should do -

He was on a hiding to nothing today playing that role with our set up.

He’s not a wing back is he. So why play him and expect him to have all this defensive responsibility?

It’s incredibly tricky because he’s a match winner. However, as others have said, he doesn’t contribute defensively. We simply don’t have the luxury of being able to get away with playing wingers that don’t provide defensive cover.

I wonder if a sizeable offer comes in, we might take the money and strengthen the team elsewhere.

A player recently signed a new contract and some posters still think he's leaving.

Maybe Amdouni and Trafford go as well, Jele Vossen style.

Benson has just signed a new deal ffs, he went of f at half time because it want the gene for him

Benson’s going to horses for courses, just as he was last season.

He’s not a player to have on the pitch when you need him to get through a shift off the ball. Kompany wasn’t starting him every week last season either.

Against a note negative full back than Digne or when chasing a game, he’s your man.

Thought he struggled. Premier league defenders will contain him easily .

Made little or no attempt to track back and defend

Impact sub in this league

I noticed they kept putting players round him. They had obviously looked at him and decided he was the danger. We needed to play faster to give him more openings. Playing slow passes gives teams a chance to surround him.

bumba wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:42 pm

Hopefully we do, more concerned about when we'll see Muric in a Burnley shirt again we miss him badly

Could not agree more. I do t think Trafford has done much wrong but we miss Muric’s passing.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:07 pm

Could not agree more. I do t think Trafford has done much wrong but we miss Muric’s passing.

Trafford should of claimed the first and saved the 3rd

I was surprised he started.
Brilliant going forward , nothing going back.
Like others have stated impact sub.

Thought we set up a bit strange today which certainly didn't help him. Coming up against strong athletic midfielders won't help his cause.

ervi34 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:51 pm

A player recently signed a new contract and some posters still think he's leaving.

Maybe Amdouni and Trafford go as well, Jele Vossen style.

What’s the obsession with signing a contract. Several players have signed new contracts and moved this window. It gives the player the comfort of the new contract if a move doesn’t come off and his club the ability to ensure his price stays high as he’s not going OOC.

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:14 pm

What’s the obsession with signing a contract. Several players have signed new contracts and moved this window. It gives the player the comfort of the new contract if a move doesn’t come off and his club the ability to ensure his price stays high as he’s not going OOC.

Bit different signing a new 4 year deal to a player extending for a year and then going on loan so that the selling club still gets a fee, not the same context at all

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:12 pm

Trafford should of claimed the first and saved the 3rd

3rd was in the bottom corner so I think that’s quite harsh. Doesn’t help that the offside Watkins was stood in his view, mind.

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:12 pm

Trafford should of claimed the first and saved the 3rd

ffs give the lad a break.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:21 pm

3rd was in the bottom corner so I think that’s quite harsh. Doesn’t help that the offside Watkins was stood in his view, mind.

Funnily enough I was sat behind his mum and dad and they both said ‘he will be unhappy he hasn’t saved that one’ about the 3rd goal

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:22 pm

ffs give the lad a break.

Just facts

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Just facts

The third was in the bottom corner with about 3 players in Trafford's eyeline ffs give the lad a break..
He's a better keeper than Muric .

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:27 pm

The third was in the bottom corner with about 3 players in Trafford's eyeline ffs give the lad a break..
He's a better keeper than Muric .

On what basis is he better than muric?

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:28 pm

On what basis is he better than muric?

Kompany picks him

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:29 pm

Kompany picks him

Right and kompany could be wrong, Even top managers make mistakes

Give these players and the team the chance to adapt to a League vastly superior to the Championship

Trafford has to adapt from League 1.

Muric looks dominant and his defense trust him. His distribution is top drawer and gives us a platform to build on.
Trafford looks indecisive and his distribution is weak. He made a couple saves in second half and imo he was unsighted for the third by an offside Watkins.
Muric dominates his third of the pitch. Trafford does not dominate his six yard box
No doubt Trafford will become an excellent keeper but he is miles short of that now.

I think Muric is vastly improved keeper .. with less prone to making calamities than when he first arrived .Trafford is obviously a good keeper and currently getting the nod .. that might change

Carlos the Great wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:44 pm

I think Muric is vastly improved keeper .. with less prone to making calamities than when he first arrived .Trafford is obviously a good keeper and currently getting the nod .. that might change

It wont

he was the worst player on the pitch today, didn't help Roberts at all, didn't track back. Needs to improve massively

People have some very strange memories of Muric. Anyone with no context would read this board and think he was a in prime Manuel Neuer based on some posts.

timscoot wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:56 pm

Thought he struggled. Premier league defenders will contain him easily .
Made little or no attempt to track back and defend
Impact sub in this league

Show him down the line and you win the battle as he has little impact with his right foot
Digne plus others had him in their pocket, and he could not get anywhere near Digne when he pressed forward into our half
Redmond would be a better option

He very obviously had a stunning season for us last time out. But I haven't agreed with people's optimism about him ahead of this season. I obviously hope I'm wrong but I think he'll be dealt with by defenders. Once you stop him cutting in, he doesn't go on his right very often and he's next to useless when we don't have the ball. I wouldn't have been devastated if he'd have been sold. Clearly hope he has a belter though.

Told to toughen up and shrug off hard tackles last season.

This season he’ll be penalised (wrongly) for not going down in situations like when he beat McGinn a few times today and had his arm pulled back as he went past him. Unfortunately in the prem those are the moments you “have” to go down or you’ll just get frustrated when the opposition do it.

He would have been great down the middle today to allow play to go through him and have a chance at the odd pop shot but getting double/tripled up on by good prem standard players won’t suit him much.

Benson will be fine. He’s getting his sights on the goal for his benders . Early days yet but we will be laughing later in the season.
By the way get over blaming him for defensive frailties

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 5:16 pm

Bit different signing a new 4 year deal to a player extending for a year...

You do understand that this new contract replaced rather than extended the contract that Benson already had and which had 3 years remaining on it; giving MB a pay rise and 'extending for a year' his obligation to BFC.

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 27, 2023 9:33 pm

You do understand that this new contract replaced rather than extended the contract that Benson already had and which had 3 years remaining on it; giving MB a pay rise and 'extending for a year' his obligation to BFC.

But it’s still completely different context to the poster saying people have signed new deals this summer and still left, Raya at Brentford signed a year extension and then left on loan purely so they get a fee for him, that’s not the same principle as benson signing a new deal

Brownhill must be properly pigged off and surely must be plotting his exit before Thursday. Whether I think it's right I'm unsure and I'd definitely have picked him for the last two matches.