• 2023/24: Newcastle United v Burnley

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:15 am**

Ticket details for Newcastle

https://www.uptheclarets.com/2023-24-ne ... nformation

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am**

So much for amending the priority bands based on demand; going to be a complete royal rumble for tickets now.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:26 am**

Tuddybfc wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:20 am
So much for amending the priority bands based on demand; going to be a complete royal rumble for tickets now.

Did you honestly think they would do that? They'll probably do it for Bournemouth or something like that, a low demand game miles away.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:29 am**

Is it just part or all the away end that has rail seating now ?

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:30 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:26 am
Did you honestly think they would do that? They'll probably do it for Bournemouth or something like that, a low demand game miles away.

When I saw Forest away being 2000 on a Monday night 2 weeks after playing them in the cup, I thought they would up the top bracket for Newcastle away at 3pm yes.

If I’m not mistaken that 2000 bracket is a lot bigger than the old 6000 bracket which will just lead to a mass scramble for tickets (granted not for many games, but think Newcastle will be one)

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:32 am**

Even if true, the 2000+ bracket will be people who have attended recent games. The old 6000 point bracket was full of one game a season wonders who could pick and choose their games.

I'm far more inclined to agree with the 2000+ bracket than the outdated 6000+ bracket.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:33 am**

Tuddybfc wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:30 am
If I’m not mistaken that 2000 bracket is a lot bigger than the old 6000 bracket

I am told so

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:35 am**

ClaretInLeeds wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:32 am
Even if true, the 2000+ bracket will be people who have attended recent games

Not the case. A friend of mine is only ten points short of 2,000 and hasn't been to an away game since the 1970s.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:35 am**

Tuddybfc wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:30 am
When I saw Forest away being 2000 on a Monday night 2 weeks after playing them in the cup, I thought they would up the top bracket for Newcastle away at 3pm yes.

If I’m not mistaken that 2000 bracket is a lot bigger than the old 6000 bracket which will just lead to a mass scramble for tickets (granted not for many games, but think Newcastle will be one)

Does the term not mistaken mean you don’t actually know

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:35 am**

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:29 am
Is it just part or all the away end that has rail seating now ?

They have to provide seating but looking at pics it seems it is very limited to the front rows on the balcony

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:37 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:35 am
Not the case. A friend of mine is only ten points short of 2,000 and hasn't been to an away game since the 1970s.

Presumably he has attended most, if not all, recent games at home though to get to 1990 points?

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:39 am**

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:35 am
Does the term not mistaken mean you don’t actually know

Based off knowledge of some of my friends who were on under 4000 (3rd sale bracket) in the old system and now comfortably in the top bracket, whilst knowing other friends previously with 8000+ points who rarely attended away games also still in the top 2000 bracket, as CT has explained above.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:39 am**

The new system was quite rightly brought in to give younger fans more of a chance to legitimately get away tickets.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:41 am**

I’m also unsure that we’ve taken the largest available away allocation, unless the capacity has been reduced this season due to the safe standing.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:49 am**

Tuddybfc wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:39 am
Based off knowledge of some of my friends who were on under 4000 (3rd sale bracket) in the old system and now comfortably in the top bracket, whilst knowing other friends previously with 8000+ points who rarely attended away games also still in the top 2000 bracket, as CT has explained above.

We could do with finding out the facts

The other factor the club are taking into account is that despite the furore we often don’t sell out games like Newcastle and I wouldn’t be surprised if this went on general sale or at least to one of the lower points totals.

On the other hand because we are attempting to play exciting football with exciting young players the demand for tickets may be greater, and if so the club may amend the points total required for similar games on a Saturday at 3 o’clock

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:51 am**

God forbid more supporters have an opportunity to buy tickets, we can't be having that.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:54 am**

ClaretInLeeds wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:37 am
Presumably he has attended most, if not all, recent games at home though to get to 1990 points?

Season ticket holder since the 1940s, attended all the home cup ties too but only afternoon games now. Shows how easy it is to get to 2,000 points though.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am**

If you have people who don't go to away games but can buy in the first priority period then the new system is an absolute pi$$ take.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:26 am
Did you honestly think they would do that? They'll probably do it for Bournemouth or something like that, a low demand game miles away.

Think they'll do it for Luton and Brentford and possibly Bournemouth. With probably 3000 available for Newcastle, it probably wasn't necessary to up the required points.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:00 am**

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am
If you have people who don't go to away games but can buy in the first priority period then the new system is an absolute pi$$ take.

Agreed.

If they are starting at 2000 points each game then they should follow suit of most clubs and split it.

2000 points and 20+ away games last season, then 15 then 10 then anyone.

This scheme is just a watered down version of what was in place meaning someone who never goes away but suddenly decides they want to attend a "glamour" away game can get one if they have had a season ticket for 5 years and been on cup games.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:01 am**

Reappraising points-based systems for tickets is absolutely the right thing to do over time because they become self fulfilling. Some people have been shut out for years in the Prem and others who do go regularly appear to have fostered an attitude that somehow it's their right to go to every game no matter what.

Widen the base I am all for it. We may even get fewer idiots attending who knows. It's not all about the badge that says how many games youve ever been to.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:03 am**

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am
If you have people who don't go to away games but can buy in the first priority period then the new system is an absolute pi$$ take.

That's just not true.

The default number of points if you only have a Season Ticket is 1750, that means over 5 years you will have needed 25 additional games, cup games or away games to make up to the 2000 points. I dont think we have had enough cup games in the past 5 years to be 25 games alone, so that means they must have gone to some away games right...? Maybe not Uber fan levels, but certainly have been to away games.

I suspect that for the limited away allocation games (Luton comes to mind) then the club may increase the initial points to 2200 to allow Uber fans to buy first though.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:09 am**

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:03 am
That's just not true.

The default number of points if you only have a Season Ticket is 1750, that means over 5 years you will have needed 25 additional games, cup games or away games to make up to the 2000 points. I dont think we have had enough cup games in the past 5 years to be 25 games alone, so that means they must have gone to some away games right...? Maybe not Uber fan levels, but certainly have been to away games.

I suspect that for the limited away allocation games (Luton comes to mind) then the club may increase the initial points to 2200 to allow Uber fans to buy first though.

Bare in mind preseason friendlies have also counted towards this. We've had at least 16 home ties in Europa league, FA Cup, League Cup, and friendlies - and then take into account some people got 50 points for Olympiakos at home.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:14 am**

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:03 am
That's just not true.

The default number of points if you only have a Season Ticket is 1750, that means over 5 years you will have needed 25 additional games, cup games or away games to make up to the 2000 points. I dont think we have had enough cup games in the past 5 years to be 25 games alone, so that means they must have gone to some away games right...? Maybe not Uber fan levels, but certainly have been to away games.

I suspect that for the limited away allocation games (Luton comes to mind) then the club may increase the initial points to 2200 to allow Uber fans to buy first though.

Wasnt stating anything as fact?

Some home games were 50 points

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:21 am**

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:14 am
Wasnt stating anything as fact?

Some home games were 50 points

but you did

Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am
If you have people who don't go to away games but can buy in the first priority period then the new system is an absolute pi$$ take.

I understand about the possible 50 points game - wasn't that just the Europa League qualifier? I went to that, got 10 points allocated. I was just saying that you're statement above isn't true.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:23 am**

Quite funny to highlight part of someone's post to show they were stating a fact and ignore the sentence starts with "if" to be fair

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:26 am**

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:23 am
Quite funny to highlight part of someone's post to show they were stating a fact and ignore the sentence starts with "if" to be fair

doesn't change the statement though!

FFS moaners moaning for the sake of moaning. When someone who attends all away games doesn't get a ticket when they want one, come back and moan then. Until then, give it a rest.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:31 am**

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:21 am
but you did

I understand about the possible 50 points game - wasn't that just the Europa League qualifier? I went to that, got 10 points allocated. I was just saying that you're statement above isn't true.

LOL x 2

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:36 am**

Jjjack wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:09 am
Bare in mind preseason friendlies have also counted towards this. We've had at least 16 home ties in Europa league, FA Cup, League Cup, and friendlies - and then take into account some people got 50 points for Olympiakos at home.

They stopped awarding points for friendlies a few years ago so none of those would have counted

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:38 am**

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:21 am

I understand about the possible 50 points game - wasn't that just the Europa League qualifier? I went to that, got 10 points allocated. I was just saying that you're statement above isn't true.

50 points awarded for Olympiacos home game - I'd forgotten about that when it was discussed a while ago but checked back and it was a 50 point game.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:43 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:38 am
50 points awarded for Olympiacos home game - I'd forgotten about that when it was discussed a while ago but checked back and it was a 50 point game.

Not all of us were lucky to get 50 points CT

: Loyalty Points.JPG (14.25 KiB) Viewed 4103 times

after checking I notice that it is now over 5 years ago... so I wonder if it no longer counts (just to confuse the matter

)

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:49 am**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:38 am
50 points awarded for Olympiacos home game - I'd forgotten about that when it was discussed a while ago but checked back and it was a 50 point game.

Didn't realise the friendlies had stop counting. I only got 10 points for Olympiakos too however and after emailing the club earlier this week they have said they haven't seen anybody with 50 points for Olympiakos and wouldn't amend my points.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:47 am**

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:43 am
Not all of us were lucky to get 50 points CT

Loyalty Points.JPG

after checking I notice that it is now over 5 years ago... so I wonder if it no longer counts (just to confuse the matter )

You are right, it doesn't count but I received 50 points.

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Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:55 am**

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:00 am
Agreed.

If they are starting at 2000 points each game then they should follow suit of most clubs and split it.

2000 points and 20+ away games last season, then 15 then 10 then anyone.

This scheme is just a watered down version of what was in place meaning someone who never goes away but suddenly decides they want to attend a "glamour" away game can get one if they have had a season ticket for 5 years and been on cup games.

Given we haven't had any "glamour" away games yet we don't really know what they'll do.

2,000 points for a 3,000 allocation is probably about right.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:07 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:47 am
You are right, it doesn't count but I received 50 points.

Olympiacos.jpg

thanks CT, didn't doubt you at all, nor anyone else say they had 50 points. I am wondering if it was different for me as I changed seats for that game from my normal ST seat in the CFS? Either way, it no longer matters, and I think the new points scheme, albeit flawed for some, is an improvement on the old scheme.

UTC

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:06 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:47 am
You are right, it doesn't count but I received 50 points.

Olympiacos.jpg

It does count per this link - https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/mor ... ts-2023-24

I read it to understand they'll wipe the whole of the 2018/19 season at the end of this season.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:07 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:47 am
You are right, it doesn't count but I received 50 points.

Olympiacos.jpg

Tony, would you mind if I emailed the club the screenshot you have posted to see if they will amend my loyalty points off it.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:15 pm**

Jjjack wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:07 pm
Tony, would you mind if I emailed the club the screenshot you have posted to see if they will amend my loyalty points off it.

By all means.

I’d forgotten all about it until someone mentioned it on here a while ago which prompted me to go and check.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:22 pm**

Not sure if this is correct but Im sure I read on here that 50 points were given if you downloaded your ticket to the app. I think it was an incentive to see if people would do that rather than having to print and post tickets etc?

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:28 pm**

Yep, you had to put it on your smartphone to get 50 points.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:29 pm**

Doesn’t explain why I only got 10 then

as I did that!

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 1:35 pm**

It was downloading it to you ST card by the Friday.

I remember as I missed out on the deadline, still being in Athens.

Posted: **Fri Sep 01, 2023 2:15 pm**

again... did that - do I need to complain too?

Posted: **Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:09 pm**

Not sure if I’ve missed it anywhere. But tickets currently available to purchase right now to the ‘Premium’ membership holders.

Prior to even the highest category season ticket holder and earlier than dates advertised as on sale.

I can imagine will be a struggle come the more popular away days for this season!

Posted: **Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:43 pm**

CryerBFC wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:09 pm
Not sure if I’ve missed it anywhere. But tickets currently available to purchase right now to the ‘Premium’ membership holders.

Prior to even the highest category season ticket holder and earlier than dates advertised as on sale.

I can imagine will be a struggle come the more popular away days for this season!

If they stick to the 5% allocation to this group that's only a maximum of 140 tickets out of our 2800 allocation, so not too
disastrous. 70 sold at the minute.

Posted: **Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:21 pm**

I’d say Newcastle on a Saturday afternoon at 3 will be one of the most popular away days, and if only 70 have been sold with the premier membership, there can’t be many people who have taken up the offer.

Posted: **Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:30 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:54 am
Season ticket holder since the 1940s, attended all the home cup ties too but only afternoon games now. Shows how easy it is to get to 2,000 points though.

Shows how flawed the system is though

One of our group is a season ticket holder like your friend, went to every cup game including evening ones , and probably 10 away games in past 5 years, but has 10 points less than your friend

Posted: **Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:50 pm**

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:30 pm
Shows how flawed the system is though

One of our group is a season ticket holder like your friend, went to every cup game including evening ones , and probably 10 away games in past 5 years, but has 10 points less than your friend

If he's only been to 10 away games in 5 years, he shouldn't expect first priority.

Posted: **Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:52 pm**

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:50 pm
If he's only been to 10 away games in 5 years, he shouldn't expect first priority.

I didn't say he should.....but he should have more points than Tony's friend...

Posted: **Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:00 pm**

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:52 pm
I didn't say he should.....but he should have more points than Tony's friend...

He will have all his past ticket purchases on his online account.
Will be pretty simple to work out and show the club if they have made a mistake.

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