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Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:05 pm
by Blyclaret
Another mistake by Cullen leads to a goal. I think that’s 3 in 3 games that a mistake from Cullen has led to the opposition scoring

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:09 pm
by Pickles
Weghorst's been good since he came on. Nice finish.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:31 pm
by ClaretTony
Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:05 pm
Another mistake by Cullen leads to a goal. I think that’s 3 in 3 games that a mistake from Cullen has led to the opposition scoring
He’s struggled in our games this season but I think that’s as much to do with how we are trying to play as a team.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:36 pm
by StayingDown4Ever
Was his level the Championship?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:41 pm
by bobinho
We’ll see. But it’ll take longer than this to work out that’s for sure.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:43 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
High end championship . Needs the system to settle with us to prove himself at a higher level. There’s a lot of pressure on hik to deliver in both our team and international team. Both sides he’s relied on heavily with lesser players around him

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:44 pm
by gandhisflipflop
To think when I suggested a midfield 3 of lokonga Vranckx and ward prowse, I was asked where would you play Cullen!

Don’t get me wrong I really rate Cullen, but he will need to be improved on eventually

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:51 pm
by BurnleyFC
I really like Cullen, but I have a feeling he might just be a bit too lightweight, a bit too slow and a bit too small for the Premier League.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:09 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
It’s not rocket science with Cullen, when you play at premier league level every single player he will come up against is stronger and quicker than him.

He’s a good player but I do worry about him this season. Especially if we keep playing this formation/style as it doesn’t compliment him at all

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 pm
by bumba
Cracking neat and tidy player is Cullen but we need somebody beside him doing the donkey work, he is no where near the level required to play on his own in Midfield.
I even think Rodri would of struggled in our opening 3 games with the system we used

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:15 pm
by ksrclaret
He’s had a tough start to the season but if we’d have played a sensible system he’d at least have had a chance of stepping up.

The whole team, not just Cullen, needs to drop 20 yards when we don’t have the ball and focus on being compact rather than chasing down like headless chickens.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:16 pm
by arise_sir_charge
Jesus wept.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm
by Swizzlestick
Good to see some sections of our fanbase happy to dig out the fans and players’ player of the year last season after three games.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:51 pm
by 4midable
Was poor
People also expected scott twine to thrive in the prem
Hes just as weak

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:00 pm
by Jakubclaret
Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm
Good to see some sections of our fanbase happy to dig out the fans and players’ player of the year last season after three games.
Spelling out the obvious shouldn't be a dig he served his purpose last season that doesn't appear to be in dispute, this sh1t is another level & I think a rude awakening call could be needed.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
by claret59
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:14 pm
by Gp8419
Writing someone off who was absolutely magnificent last season already is incredible.I’m sorry but I’m more sure than any other player from last year that he’s the one more capable than any of stepping up to that level. I think the manager as got the system and team selection wrong but I also support him to get it right.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:18 pm
by Tricky Trevor
I was dipping between this match and the rugby but what I saw he gave his usual Ireland performance, no less than a 7. Always shows for the ball, plays it quick if simple, never carries the ball, gets his tackles in. Of course he hasn’t settled in the PL, have you forgot who we have been up against?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:02 am
by bfcmik
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
Jeezus. Religions are totally up there for people to take the pee out of. I will defend your right to believe in what you will but reserve the right to think you're crazy too. And accept that you may feel sorry/ashamed/annoyed/a.n.other for me for not being religious.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:27 am
by Vegas Claret
in the first 3 games he's played a completely different role for us, I don't remember him dropping into the back line to pick the ball up once and start play, he did that in every single game last season. The tweak isn't his fault.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:36 am
by jojomk1
arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:16 pm
Jesus wept.
Even Jesus doesn't fancy him anymore

It was obvious last year that we lacked height, pace and strength in central midfield

We got away with it then but the Premier League sorts the men from the boys

Cullen is no worse than anyone else we have - but they are just not up to the level required

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 5:44 am
by Taffy on the wing
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
It's Sunday..........maybe you could go twice today?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:08 am
by Newcastleclaret93
Swizzlestick wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:41 pm
Good to see some sections of our fanbase happy to dig out the fans and players’ player of the year last season after three games.
I think everyone recognised how good he was at championship level. But ultimately there’s a reason his first season at this level has come at 27 years old, he’s going to struggle this year and physically he’s at a disadvantage to every team we will play.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:32 am
by OssyClaret
He has been left high and dry by how we have chosen to play so far this season in completely emptying the midfield.

Id like too see us ‘start’ the rest of the season by going back to what we know and evolving it from there. With a bit more discipline around Cullen I think we’ll start to see his top level capabilities.

Cullen Cork Brownhill

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:23 am
by JohnMcGreal
He's a player that thrives in teams that dominate possession. I don't think he's played a game this season where that was ever going to be the case:

Man City
Aston Villa
Tottenham
France
Netherlands

Let's wait and see how he (and the rest of our players) looks after we've played everyone in this league at least once.

It's also worth mentioning that Cullen didn't really have a pre-season. He didn't seem to feature in any of the friendlies. Maybe that's a contributing factor as to why he's looking slightly off the pace.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:50 am
by arise_sir_charge
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
Apologies.

However Jesus Wept seemed to pass the moderators test where as my original thought of “For ******* **** sake, give it ******* time you bunch of complete ******* *******” didn’t.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:05 am
by Anthonini
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
Well said. Not to forget many players are believers as well. Take Foster for example, always gives thanks to our saviour at every occasion. Some basic respect (no mockery) is the least you can do as a supporter.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:18 am
by Anthonini
On Cullen I think it's unfair to judge him after 3 games against world class opponents. Premier League is another big step up for him. He's not a natural talent but a guy that works hard and does his job for the team. Give him some time to adjust to the higher level. Knowing him he'll be alright.

From now on the games look more doable and for Cullen and Berge a chance to show what they're made of. I do think they could be very complementary. Berge was best with Ndidi next to him at Genk, Cullen backed up by Roberts can fill that role. Otherwise Brownhill and Massengo will get a chance to do better.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:11 am
by jojomk1
Anthonini wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:18 am
Cullen backed up by Roberts can fill that role.
Roberts in midfield ??

Sounds like another square peg in a round hole

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:48 am
by Hipper
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
You must struggle in the real world. People say such things commonly whether you like it or not. If you don't like it then ask the mods what they think.

Why don't you just tolerate others. Toleration is part of a good religion isn't it?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:50 am
by Anthonini
jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:11 am
Roberts in midfield ??

Sounds like another square peg in a round hole
Inverted wingback. No just Burnley tactics...

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:07 am
by Jakubclaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:08 am
I think everyone recognised how good he was at championship level. But ultimately there’s a reason his first season at this level has come at 27 years old, he’s going to struggle this year and physically he’s at a disadvantage to every team we will play.
You could say the same about them all, they was all oven ready for the championship hence the cakewalk, pointing out how poorly some of them seem to be performing now isn't detracting from the performances in the championship, we are where we are currently in this present league & harping on about something earlier isn't relevant to the PL.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:36 pm
by warksclaret
We need a midfield of three and to specifically include a physical and atlhetic defensive/holding midfield player, then you would hopefully see the best from Josh Cullen

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:47 pm
by bpgburn
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:09 pm
It’s not rocket science with Cullen, when you play at premier league level every single player he will come up against is stronger and quicker than him.

He’s a good player but I do worry about him this season. Especially if we keep playing this formation/style as it doesn’t compliment him at all
Good job he has never played at international level and come up against top internationals is all I can say....oh hang on a minute!!

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:18 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
bpgburn wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:47 pm
Good job he has never played at international level and come up against top internationals is all I can say....oh hang on a minute!!
I am not sure if this is a joke or not?

Are you really comparing playing the occasional game against a decent international team to playing week in and week out against the best football teams on the planet?

Take the claret tinted specs off. Cullen is a great player but ultimately he’s looked massively out of his depth

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:39 pm
by Spike
Cullen has had no midfield support this season.Of course he will come good

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:56 pm
by Greenmile
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
“Jesus wept” is a direct quote from that book of ancient stories you lot seem to set so much store by. Is the bible blasphemous, too, now?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:34 pm
by bpgburn
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:18 pm
I am not sure if this is a joke or not?

Are you really comparing playing the occasional game against a decent international team to playing week in and week out against the best football teams on the planet?

Take the claret tinted specs off. Cullen is a great player but ultimately he’s looked massively out of his depth
Are you seriously suggesting that he never played against bigger, stronger, faster opponents in the championship week in week out or are all the players in the championship smaller, weaker and slower than Cullen and that's why he was the fans and players POS.
Are you suggesting that championship players are not big enough, strong or fast enough to play in the Premier league or to have ever played in the premier league? Have you seen some of the units that play in the Championship? Cullen's size and speed is not the problem here...!

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:36 pm
by bpgburn
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
Could you not just forgive those that Blaspheme?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:40 pm
by HahaYeah
claret59 wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 pm
Jesus wept.

No need for blasphemy. I thought this disrespect for Christian Burnley supporters had gone the same way as racial and homophobic comments on here.
Obviously not.
I doubt any of them would disrespect Islam.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:41 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
bpgburn wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:34 pm
Are you seriously suggesting that he never played against bigger, stronger, faster opponents in the championship week in week out or are all the players in the championship smaller, weaker and slower than Cullen and that's why he was the fans and players POS.
Are you suggesting that championship players are not big enough, strong or fast enough to play in the Premier league or to have ever played in the premier league? Have you seen some of the units that play in the Championship? Cullen's size and speed is not the problem here...!
The championship is a considerable drop of in both athleticism and size yes.

Anyone with eyes can see that. The championship quality is also considerably worse.

Cullen will have never come up against such athletes in his career week in and week out

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:42 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
It is a well known that only big tall midfielders can cut it in the top divisions

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:46 pm
by bpgburn
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:41 pm
The championship is a considerable drop of in both athleticism and size yes.

Anyone with eyes can see that. The championship quality is also considerably worse.

Cullen will have never come up against such athletes in his career week in and week out
:roll:

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:52 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:42 pm
It is a well known that only big tall midfielders can cut it in the top divisions
Has anyone said that?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:55 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
bpgburn wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:46 pm
:roll:
What exactly is not accurate with that statement

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:56 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:55 pm
What exactly is not accurate with that statement

What is it that attracts you to any negative thread about any player

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:58 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:56 pm
What is it that attracts you to any negative thread about any player
Probably the same thing that attracted you to it?

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:00 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:58 pm
Probably the same thing that attracted you to it?
OK I will re-phrase it for you, why are you far more prominent on a thread that gives you a chance to be negative about one of the players

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:22 pm
by Greenmile
HahaYeah wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:40 pm
I doubt any of them would disrespect Islam.
What makes you think that? Just because you’re scared of all Muslims doesn’t mean we all have to be. Watch....

The Qur’an is just a book of ancient stories which some folk seem to set a lot of store by for some reason.

Re: Cullen

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 3:45 pm
by bpgburn
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:58 pm
Probably the same thing that attracted you to it?
I have to say that you only tend to be prolific on here around transfer window time or early in the season giving your insights and opinions on the team, players and all things football (which of course you are entitled to do). Then you kind of disappear bit by bit when, as the season goes on, a lot of your foresightedness proves to be far off the mark.