Internationals finally over…

I’ve tried picking a bench too, not easy.

—————————Trafford
Roberts——O’Shea———Beyer——Delcroix
———————Berge———Cullen
Koleosho————Brownhill—————Tresor
——————————Foster

Muric, Al-Dakhil, Cork, Amdouni, Benson, Zaroury, Larsen, JBG, Ramsey

I’ve put Brownhill there more for the pressing qualities higher up. Had to leave Redmond, Vitinho, Rodriguez and Massengo (not sure he’ll be ready yet anyway?) out of the squad.

Muric for Trafford
Al Dakhil for O'Shea ( back in his right position imo)

Muric
Roberts Al Dakhil Beyer Taylor
Cullen Brownhill
Benson Berge Zaroury
Foster

People in correct positions and more of last years hero's back in please

------------------Trafford
Roberts----O'Shea----Beyer------Taylor
------------Cullen-------Berge
-----------------Brownhill
JBG-----------------------------Koleosho
-------------------Foster

Subs: Muric, Al-Dakhil, Vitinho, Cork, Benson, Zaroury, Tresor, Amdouni, JRod

tried to give balance to the bench. Means leaving out Ramsey, Redmond, Massengo, Larsen.

Tresor will start

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:11 am

Internationals finally over…

I’ve tried picking a bench too, not easy.

—————————Trafford
Roberts——O’Shea———Beyer——Delcroix
———————Berge———Cullen
Koleosho————Brownhill—————Tresor
——————————Foster

Muric, Al-Dakhil, Cork, Amdouni, Benson, Zaroury, Larsen, JBG, Ramsey

I’ve put Brownhill there more for the pressing qualities higher up. Had to leave Redmond, Vitinho, Rodriguez and Massengo (not sure he’ll be ready yet anyway?) out of the squad.

This would be my starting 11 except I'd give Berge the more forward role of the 3 and ask Brownhill to do a lot of the leg work to support Berge and Cullen

4231

Muric

Roberts
AD
Beyer
Taylor

Cullen
Brownhill

Tresor Central
Koleosho
Benson

Foster

Plenty on the bench to change the game

Trafford
Roberts Beyer O’Shea al dahkil
Cullen Berge
Benson Amdouni Tresor
Foster

Struggling to see what O’Shea offers

Muric

Roberts Al-Dakhil Beyer Taylor

Cullen Brownhill

Koleosho Amdouni Benson

Foster

Can't see Magic Mike Tresor not starting.

...................Muric

Roberts....Dakhil.....Beyer.....Taylor

.......Cullen...............Brownhill

Koleosho.......Tressor........Zarouri

..................Foster

-------Trafford
Roberts O'Shea Beyer Taylor
---------------Cullen Berge
---‐-------------Brownhill
Tresor* -----Foster-----Zaroury


Tresor or Koleosho is a fine margin call for me, but Zaroury deserves to come back in given his performances last season and the big advantage of this team is that it integrates 7 players who were here last season so know what we're about. Zaroury and Brownhill also strengthen our press.

I'd take the logic a step further and go for Al Dakhil over O'Shea, but I'd be worried over Al Dakhil's confidence after the Spurs game and I also think OShea may be a more vocal leader.

Muric
Roberts Al-Dakhil Beyer Taylor
Berge Cullen Brownhill
Koleosho Foster Tresor

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:13 pm

Muric
Roberts Al-Dakhil Beyer Taylor
Berge Cullen Brownhill
Koleosho Foster Tresor

This, won't happen though...

The only changes i want to see are Taylor and Brownhill in to give us a proper shape and be more solid and Tresor, Benson, to come off the bench when needed.

Trafford
Roberts Al Dakhil Beyer Taylor
Cullen Brownhill
Berge
Koleosho Foster Tresor

Are these teams which we think Kompany will pick or teams the poster would pick?

Pickles wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:59 pm

Are these teams which we think Kompany will pick or teams the poster would pick?

Either I guess. Probably more so the poster.

Trafford
Larsen Redmond Odobert JBG
Zaroury Benson
Amdouni
Koleosho Foster Tresor

—————————Muric
Roberts——AAD———Beyer——Taylor
———————Berge———Cullen
Koleosho————Brownhill—————Zaroury
——————————Foster

Could imagine VK starts Amdouni and Tresor ahead of Brownh and Zaroury though, but I'd hope that's our starting eleven. We've certainly a strong bench.

A bit early to be on the lash Belial haha

Muric
Roberts AAD Beyer Taylor
Massengo Cullen
Benson Tresor Zaroury
Foster

Muric
Roberts AlDakhil Beyer Taylor
Brownhill Cullen
Berge
JBG Foster Zaroury

I’ve gone for ball retainers and experience to start, with the likes of Amdouni, Tresor, Benson, Ramsey etc to come on to build on our lead.

Muric
Roberts
Beyer
El Dakil
Taylor

Cullen
Brownhill
Massengo

Tresor
Benson

Foster

Pickles wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:59 pm

Are these teams which we think Kompany will pick or teams the poster would pick?

We haven't got a clue who Kompany will pick - certainly based on the first three games

Doubt very much Kompany will pick Taylor

And if some are seriously contemplating JBG at LB I'll have a pint of what they are on

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:45 pm

We haven't got a clue who Kompany will pick - certainly based on the first three games

That's why I asked the question really. It isn't like when Dyche was manager and everyone knew exactly who'd play and how. Sometimes felt pointless opposition teams coming to scout us.

claretspice wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:04 pm

-------Trafford
Roberts O'Shea Beyer Taylor
---------------Cullen Berge
---‐-------------Brownhill
Tresor -----Foster-----Zaroury

This team......

Possibly Muric for Trafford and Al Dakhil for O'Shea.....but definitely that front 3, that midfield 3 and Taylor at LB.

claretspice wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:04 pm

-------Trafford
Roberts O'Shea Beyer Taylor
---------------Cullen Berge
---‐-------------Brownhill
Tresor* -----Foster-----Zaroury


Tresor or Koleosho is a fine margin call for me, but Zaroury deserves to come back in given his performances last season and the big advantage of this team is that it integrates 7 players who were here last season so know what we're about. Zaroury and Brownhill also strengthen our press.

I'd take the logic a step further and go for Al Dakhil over O'Shea, but I'd be worried over Al Dakhil's confidence after the Spurs game and I also think OShea may be a more vocal leader.

Not sure Berge has shown anything to say he could play defensive midfield with Cullen.
And whatever formation/tactics we play, getting Cullen running the game has to be our no.1 priority.

11-7 in favor of Muric so far. Interesting

These for sure
Muric
Beyer
Taylor
Cullen
Brownhill
Foster
Zaroury

Plus 4

……………….……Muric
Roberts..O’Shea...Beyer...Taylor
….JBG … …. Cullen….. Koleosho
……....Berge…………Foster…….….
………………..Amdouni………………. .

My team:

———————Muric
Roberts-Beyer-Delcroix-Taylor
——-——Cullen—Massengo
Koleosho—-Brownhill—-Trésor
————————Foster

What I think the team will be:

———————Trafford
Roberts-O’Shea-Beyer-Delcroix
—————————Cullen
JBG——Brownhill—-Berge—Trésor
—————————Foster

Maybe JBG/Amdouni inside for Brownhill and Koleosho or Redmond to start

Pickles wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:59 pm

Are these teams which we think Kompany will pick or teams the poster would pick?

Well, it's unlikely VK will opt for Muric so it's very much posters' pick.

My team; which I think there's no chance of being accurate:

———————Muric
Roberts-Beyer-Delcroix-Taylor
---——Cullen—Massengo
JBG—-----Trésor--------Zaroury
—---———Foster

Benson—-Berge----Koleosho to come on later for the 3 attacking Mid's and Brownhill for Massengo

Trafford
Roberts, O’Shea, Beyer, Vitinho
Cullen, Berge
Koleoshi, Amdouni, Tresor
Foster

That’s the team I think VK will pick

Is Trésor fit to play yet? Thought he was injured prior to signing for us??

Isn't AZ's ban 3 league games?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:21 pm

Isn't AZ's ban 3 league games?

No, I think he spent one of the 3 on the cup game at Forest?!

Ampth7 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:25 pm

No, I think he spent one of the 3 on the cup game at Forest?!

OK. for some reason I thought bans were competition specific now.

Muric
Roberts
Al Dakhil
Beyer
Vitinho

Cullen
Cork
Brownhill

Tresor
Foster
Zaroury

We looked so much calmer when Cork came on

VK’s man management skills are going to be extremely important a lot of players are going to be unhappy if they don’t get much game time.

———————Muric

Roberts--Beyer--Delcroix--Taylor

--------Cullen----------Massengo

Koleoshi---Amdouni---Tresor

—---——----—Foster

Forgot about Vitinho, that could be an interesting choice.

My team

Muric
Roberts Al Dakhil Beyer Vitinho
Cullen
Redmond Berge
JBG Amdouni Foster

Possibly Koleosho for JBG

VK's team....... haven't got a clue.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:20 pm

Not sure Berge has shown anything to say he could play defensive midfield with Cullen.
And whatever formation/tactics we play, getting Cullen running the game has to be our no.1 priority.

This is a recurring topic, but I don't agree with this re: Berge, for several reasons. Firstly, his best performance this season was probably his first, against City, when the natural shape of the game (they had the ball in our half for long spells) meant he was playing deeper and as an orthodox central midfield. That was in stark contrast to the Villa game when he was noticeably higher and looked a little lost for it. Secondly, he's generally looked better to my mind stepping onto the ball from deeper - his contribution for the goal in the cup tie at Forest was an example of that (picked it up deeper and drove with it), and whilst he played higher against Spurs than against City, he was behind the ball more than he was against Villa and that gave him more opportunity in that first half hour to influence the game on the ball.

Thirdly, that deeper role is where he made his reputation in Belgium.

So all in all, I think he may prove the best option alongside Cullen. I take the point that Cork improved us against Spurs, but we were 4 goals down by then and that was at least as relevant - and equally, the first 25 minutes or so was very good, and Berge was influential in that from a position broadly alongside Cullen. With Brownhill playing a more dynamic role further forward - supporting the break, providing a running option to the creative players and to Foster, leading the press, able to cover Berge should he venture forwards - that feels a fairly well balanced midfield 3 to me which although not spectacular at this level is capable of holding its own.

I just want to see Charlie at LB. We need to get our first point and Charlie will help bolster our defence. Suspect it won't happen though.

I hope we're not going to be quoting the Forest goal in support of Berge in January.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:14 pm

Trafford
Roberts, O’Shea, Beyer, Vitinho
Cullen, Berge
Koleoshi, Amdouni, Tresor
Foster

That’s the team I think VK will pick

Think so too but I guess he would put left footed Delcroix as LCB. Though I do see the upside of the speed and work rate of Vitinho. It would be a good choice to protect Al Dakhil who's not playing at his best lately and let the more experienced defenders do their thing.

Koleosho Amdouni Tresor Foster is a pretty decent front line and with Benson Zaroury Odobert Larsen Gudmondsson Jay Rod and Redmond on the bench...

Interesting to see how this squad will develop under VK. Very talented hard working intelligent young bunch. Good mix of speed strength and technical capabilities. Tresor hopefully will bring alot of creativity to put the others in dangerous positions.

Belial wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:02 pm

Trafford
Larsen Redmond Odobert JBG
Zaroury Benson
Amdouni
Koleosho Foster Tresor

I suppose that at some point, this joke will be funny.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:56 pm

I suppose that at some point, this joke will be funny.

It's not funny. Foster and Trafford are not wingers. Other than that it's hilarious. Makes a great point about our lack of a left back.