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Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:18 pm
by MT03ALG
Apologies if it has already been mentioned but was Jordan Beyer injured today ?

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:20 pm
by Vincent'sCap
He was injured,hope its not for long

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:40 pm
by MT03ALG
Injured at Luton ?

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:41 pm
by MT03ALG
He played a full game at Luton....

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:59 am
by MT03ALG
Not many replies to this message about Jordan. I admit to fishing as I had heard from a good source that he was not injured but 'too tired' to play yesterday...

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:03 am
by StayingDown4Ever
Right, so he was rested then.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:09 am
by NewClaret
IF we rested him (and therefore presumably Roberts) it was a terrible decision on Kompany’s behalf.

I love the guy but yesterday’s chopping and changing of a back line building some understanding and momentum was strange to say the least.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:23 am
by boatshed bill
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:09 am
IF we rested him (and therefore presumably Roberts) it was a terrible decision on Kompany’s behalf.

I love the guy but yesterday’s chopping and changing of a back line building some understanding and momentum was strange to say the least.

The conditioning coaches probably have a large say in who gets "rested" as you put it.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:32 am
by BleedingClaret
Maybe the resting of the tired players in a game that we were always likely to lose over a 100 minutes against a billion pound team will be the decision that sets us up to get a point or more against Brentford

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:35 am
by bumba
He shouldn't be getting rested the game before a 2 week break!

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:37 am
by northeastclaret
BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:32 am
Maybe the resting of the tired players in a game that we were always likely to lose over a 100 minutes against a billion pound team will be the decision that sets us up to get a point or more against Brentford
I would suggest the impact of resting players for the Chelsea match has no impact whatsoever on the Brentford match , with it being two weeks away, it obviously would if the match was on Tuesday.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:40 am
by JohnMac
If he was rested it would be for a good reason and the sports science is more accurate than a supporters opinion.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:43 am
by BleedingClaret
northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:37 am
I would suggest the impact of resting players for the Chelsea match has no impact whatsoever on the Brentford match , with it being two weeks away, it obviously would if the match was on Tuesday.
Less impact agreed
But if you’ve tired and possibly strained muscles and as a result you end up with torn muscles, then 2 weeks isn’t enough time to recover
There will also be a physiological effect of being so dominant last year to being ripped to pieces this year that will add a mental tiredness to the overall feeling of a lack of self belief

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:48 am
by Elizabeth
BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:43 am
Less impact agreed
But if you’ve tired and possibly strained muscles and as a result you end up with torn muscles, then 2 weeks isn’t enough time to recover
There will also be a physiological effect of being so dominant last year to being ripped to pieces this year that will add a mental tiredness to the overall feeling of a lack of self belief
This is particular relevant to Beyer considering his recent injury history

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:50 am
by 123EasyasBFC
Beyer out for 6 weeks at least

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:53 am
by CoolClaret
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:50 am
Beyer out for 6 weeks at least
? Where have you seen that

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:55 am
by 123EasyasBFC
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:53 am
? Where have you seen that
I haven’t seen it, been told it, same person who told me that Beyer hadn’t done his ACL but was still injured

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:56 am
by CoolClaret
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:55 am
I haven’t seen it, been told it, same person who told me that Beyer hadn’t done his ACL but was still injured
Ah so ******** then.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:56 am
by MT03ALG
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:50 am
Beyer out for 6 weeks at least

Source?

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:57 am
by dougcollins
It's a big problem that we lost Ekdal.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:01 am
by 123EasyasBFC
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:56 am
Ah so ******** then.
That was correct, Beyer hadn’t done his ACL but was still injured, not asking you to believe it but been told he’s out for at least 6 weeks

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:05 am
by claretdj
@ the end of the Luton game I noticed his was hobbling quite badly when shaking hands with the opposition players. :cry:

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:02 pm
by mkmel
I would have thought that a few of our players would have been hobbling after playing Luton

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:37 pm
by Bullabill
NewClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:09 am
IF we rested him (and therefore presumably Roberts) it was a terrible decision on Kompany’s behalf.

Kompany makes his own decisions.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:57 am
by Vegas Claret
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:01 am
That was correct, Beyer hadn’t done his ACL but was still injured, not asking you to believe it but been told he’s out for at least 6 weeks
ties in with what Kompany said after the game yesterday, something along the lines of "he's injured and it's one we could do without"

He had loads of injury issues at his previous club I believe too

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:04 am
by dsr
MT03ALG wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:59 am
Not many replies to this message about Jordan. I admit to fishing as I had heard from a good source that he was not injured but 'too tired' to play yesterday...
The season has been running for 10 weeks and he has played 6 matches, and was subbed in 3 of them. He isn't tired.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:11 am
by Commy
He seems to have a problem with knocks. Happened at his previous club as well and I think he got an injury just after he had broken into their first team and then couldn't get back in.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:14 am
by thehistorylecturer.
MT03ALG wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:59 am
Not many replies to this message about Jordan. I admit to fishing as I had heard from a good source that he was not injured but 'too tired' to play yesterday...
'good source' and 'too tired' ... neither would be true ont his case.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:29 am
by thehistorylecturer.
* in this case ... yawn not awake yet

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:01 am
by jedi_master
We will really struggle without him. Our centre back position is a real problem - I wanted us to sign an experienced backup in the summer (Evans was linked at one point, how I’d dearly love to see him alongside AAD during Beyer’s absence) as the lack of PL know how was always a concern.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:48 am
by ClaretTony
MT03ALG wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:59 am
Not many replies to this message about Jordan. I admit to fishing as I had heard from a good source that he was not injured but 'too tired' to play yesterday...
Your source is not a good source. He was out injured and I don’t think we can expect him back for the game at Brentford.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:05 am
by bfcjg
Sounds worrying.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:08 am
by burnley007
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:48 am
Your source is not a good source. He was out injured and I don’t think we can expect him back for the game at Brentford.
oh dear, we really need him. Him and Ameen look good together, but we look VERY vulnerable without him.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:14 am
by northeastclaret
Time for Jack Cork in that position, he wouldn’t let us down, as he wouldn’t if he was in midfield now for us.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:24 am
by 123EasyasBFC
northeastclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:14 am
Time for Jack Cork in that position, he wouldn’t let us down, as he wouldn’t if he was in midfield now for us.
I wouldn’t dream of playing cork at cb in the premier league but cork in front of an inexperienced premier league CB pairing wouldn’t be a bad idea

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:17 am
by ClaretTony
northeastclaret wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:14 am
Time for Jack Cork in that position, he wouldn’t let us down, as he wouldn’t if he was in midfield now for us.
I think he'd do a good job for us in the midfield for certain. He once played in the centre of defence for Southampton on the Turf in Coyle's promotion season. We were 3-0 up after 11 minutes but ended the game hanging on at 3-2.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:49 am
by Jellybean
We are hugely missing the calmness of ekdal I feel. I hope he is back soon. Although as others have said on here he didn't play an awful lot last season despite me thinking he looked very classy and assured every time he played. I guess premier league level is hugely different but hopefully he will be an important asset to us when he returns.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:51 am
by NewClaret
claretdj wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:05 am
@ the end of the Luton game I noticed his was hobbling quite badly when shaking hands with the opposition players. :cry:
Ah, that would explain it then.

Re: Jordan Beyer

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:45 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Beyer does/did have a habit of overstretching when making tackles especially when he 'temporarily loses it'. This caused him his injury last season. Whatever has happened this time, I hope it isn't a similar story. I'm hoping he's a quick learner.