Brentford v Burnley match thread.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:31 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:30 pm
Wtf are we doing. O'Shea saves Trafford too. Jesus wept.

Saves Trafford? It shouldn’t have even have got to Trafford in the first place

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:31 pm

we look very poor and like i have said chopping and changing the team won't help the players.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:31 pm

Why did Taylor run away from his man then? Very bizzare

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:31 pm

I thought the City game was the worst we would be all season

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:31 pm

Solid save by Brentford after we gave them the ball to run with.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:31 pm

Can't even pass the ball

Every time in possession we look scared

This is going to be a very bad season.

clansman · Post by **clansman** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

I’m afraid Vincent has got it all wrong this season. Love him to bits but he has overestimated his players and underestimated how hard the Premier League is. Coylesque so far!

Greekclaret · Post by **Greekclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:30 pm
Exactly?

Watch any game of his since he came to England and it’s the same

Terrible in a two, very good in a three

That’s the thing. He excels in the advanced role in a 3. He either plays forward in a 3 or doesn’t play at all, surely?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

We don’t look like we have the personnel to stay in this league, unfortunately.

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

Decent save Trafford

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

Good save.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:31 pm
Saves Trafford? It shouldn’t have even have got to Trafford in the first place

Absolutely, but Trafford let it slip under him. Luckily O'Shea was awake.

SPC&G · Post by **SPC&G** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

In this league there just isn’t the time for us to play the way we are trying to.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:30 pm
Exactly?

Watch any game of his since he came to England and it’s the same

Terrible in a two, very good in a three

He’s playing in a three today with Amdouni and Cullen. Left sided 8. Surprised people haven’t clocked onto this yet.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

Sounds like my train being cancelled has saved me enduring one today, but….Brentford are a top 10 side (last season), a good side, we looked better at Luton and Forest.

We will also be better with Beyer and Ekdal back. Vinny though is struggling to adapt more than any of the players to this new level, four up top here is silly imho. Needed Brownhill with Berge helping.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

We're all over the place at the back.
Slow on the ball.
Confidence seems to be pretty low.

Apart from that, we're doing ok.

Trafford good save!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

Trafford seems just an average Championship keeper at the most.
Completely overpaid for him.
Money pushed straight down the khazi.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:28 pm
I just can't believe how far backwards we've gone this season.

The summer **** up was off the scale and we're left with a load of crap players who we've speculated on.

Shite.

I got pelters for this.

Was painfully obvious that we made a cockup before a ball was even kicked.

A masterclass in what not to do after promotion

SPC&G · Post by **SPC&G** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm

Great save there by Trafford

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:33 pm

He should make 4 subs at half time.

Cork, Brownhill, Redmond, and Zaroury for Amdouni, Berge, Tresor, and Odobert.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:33 pm

Nice save there, but they are all over us.

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:33 pm

A save any prem keeper should make

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:33 pm

Trafford ,Berge ,Kompany not good enough.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:34 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm
He’s playing in a three today with Amdouni and Cullen. Left sided 8. Surprised people haven’t clocked onto this yet.

Drifts out there but still out of posession is sitting in more, least imo.

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:34 pm

Berge is having a shocker

SPC&G · Post by **SPC&G** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:34 pm

Berg on a yellow

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:34 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:32 pm
Sounds like my train being cancelled has saved me enduring one today, but….Brentford are a top 10 side (last season), a good side, we looked better at Luton and Forest.

We will also be better with Beyer and Ekdal back. Vinny though is struggling to adapt more than any of the players to this new level, four up top here is silly imho. Needed Brownhill with Berge helping.

Brentford have won only one game before today and have an almost first elevens worth of their better players missing. They’re making us look like a lower league team in a cup game. It’s embarrassingly bad.

GaryClaret · Post by **GaryClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:34 pm

I can’t believe how bad our ball control has been today. Technique is supposed to be our strength.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:35 pm

Problem is what do we do to make it better? 4 wingers on the bench...

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:35 pm

Trafford called for that then backed off!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:35 pm

At least after today we can finally do away with the b0llocks that we shouldn't be winning games against sides we've played so far.

We're just shite. That's all there is to it.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:35 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:30 pm
The whole of the summer was one huge, and very expensive, cock up.

God knows what we thought we were playing at.

We obviously give the manager the reigns after how successful his recruitment led effort had been the previous summer.

Greekclaret · Post by **Greekclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 pm

helmclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:35 pm
Trafford called for that then backed off!

Heard the keepers shout on tv. Then back peddled

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 pm

Our team last year minces this team.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 pm

FFS sort this out - the midfield is atrocious!

I don’t think he’s the answer necessarily but I’d seriously be considering playing Jack Cork. He may be in the twilight of his career, but he’s the only one we have with a bit of nouse.

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 pm

We're not even winning many headers when they lump it into the box. Getting bullied here. No leaders out there at all.

TommyPicks · Post by **TommyPicks** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 pm

Cannot see how we survive this season. If you tried to pick at least 3 other teams worse than us, you couldn’t do it.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:36 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:35 pm
Problem is what do we do to make it better? 4 wingers on the bench...

Got to be brutal at half time:

————————Trafford
Roberts….O’Shea…….Al-Dakhil…..Taylor
————————Cork—Cullen
-Redmond———-Brownhill——-Zaroury
——————————-Foster

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:37 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:35 pm
We obviously give the manager the reigns after how successful his recruitment led effort had been the previous summer.

The two summer windows couldn't be more polar.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:37 pm

Time for VK to man up and replace Trafford

TommyPicks · Post by **TommyPicks** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:37 pm

Muric must be seething

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:37 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:37 pm
Time for VK to man up and replace Trafford

Amen

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:37 pm

They are knocking out lads all over the place. We are struggling with their physicality.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:38 pm

Get Brownhill on for Berge.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:38 pm

We need Cork's experience and calmness, especially against teams like this. He might be a bit slow for the top teams but he can certainly mix it against the lesser teams.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:38 pm

With Beyer and Ekdal injured, and Maatsen not being replaced we are poorer on the ball at the back.
The only improvement we can make today is bring on Muric. It would probably be too late to make a difference now, and would definitely condemn Trafford to a psyche ward.

Berge has looked good going forward, but terrible defensively. Why would you ask him to play a role we know doesn't suit him.

Cazaris · Post by **Cazaris** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:38 pm

At worst, taking Trafford off for Muric would show Trafford he's not immune to losing his spot and that he has to work harder and make better decisions. Can't have competition for the spot without it.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:39 pm

They just look utterly devoid of confidence, shell shocked - and this is how they’ve looked every time they’ve gone behind, hence the atmosphere being dogshit at Turf Moor.

Nothing a ******* drum fixes.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:39 pm

How long will it be before they realise that teams are on us every time we play out from the back. Ridiculous

Greekclaret · Post by **Greekclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:39 pm

What’s actually wrong with Ekdal? Not heard anything regarding his injury