• A mini league of four

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:17 pm**

Luton
Sheffield Utd
Bournemouth
Burnley
Win this and we stay up and we will,there isn't half some shite being spouted on here tonight

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:19 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:17 pm
Luton
Sheffield Utd
Bournemouth
Burnley
Win this and we stay up and we will,there isn't half some shite being spouted on here tonight

Some definitely need to take a cold shower

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:19 pm**

I mean given today’s performance it’s understandable why people are frustrated and you will always get the OTT reactions in either direction.

Apart from that agree with the post and it does seem it’s 3 from those 4.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:20 pm**

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:19 pm
Some definitely need to take a cold shower

Some??
About 95% of em I'd say...

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:22 pm**

Being in a mini league of 4 clubs, where just the winner of that league survives relegation is quite an underwhelming position to be in just 8 games into a season.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:23 pm**

It would be mental to stay up with this squad on the basis of what we’ve seen so far this season - but the truth is we really can only get better. Next week is absolutely must not lose, and a win for either team is massive.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:24 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:22 pm
Being in a mini league of 4 clubs, where just the winner of that league survives relegation is quite an underwhelming position to be in just 8 games into a season.

It's all about staying up this season no matter how it happens..a young side needs time.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:25 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:24 pm
It's all about staying up this season no matter how it happens..a young side needs time.

Unfortunately the more time this young team has the worst they get.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:25 pm
Unfortunately the more time this young team has the worst they get.

Give it a rest pal...have you seen who we have played so far.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm**

You can add Everton and Forest to the four.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:29 pm**

mikeS wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm
You can add Everton and Forest to the four.

Yes.
Far too early to limit it to four.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:30 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm
Give it a rest pal...have you seen who we have played so far.

Yes, and generally speaking performances have got worse, bottoming out today against a very average looking Brentford side.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:34 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm
Give it a rest pal...have you seen who we have played so far.

We've just played Brentford who hadn't won a game at home until they made us look league one, worrying time's

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:10 pm**

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:34 pm
We've just played Brentford who hadn't won a game at home until they made us look league one, worrying time's

Worrying times what are you on about are you a a disciple or a bedwetter

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:12 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm
Give it a rest pal...have you seen who we have played so far.

We’ve played premier league teams, because we’re in the premier league.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:15 pm**

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:12 pm
We’ve played premier league teams, because we’re in the premier league.

Yeah but, wittle old Burnley can’t be expected to get anything but a 3-0 drubbing at the giants of Brentford

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:17 pm**

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:12 pm
We’ve played premier league teams, because we’re in the premier league.

Who worked that out for you?

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:18 pm**

We only need to get results against the teams in our mini league of four and we'll be fine.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:24 pm**

The thing is Bournemouth have more experience and Sheff U,& Luton have some big guys who will get the odd big result like we did with Sean Dyche ,this lot couldn’t out muscle an under 11’s girls team.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:26 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:18 pm
We only need to get results against the teams in our mini league of four and we'll be fine.

If we get the results home and away against the other 3 we’ll have a total of 19 points.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:55 pm**

Don’t know about anyone else but the ‘Look who we’ve played’ line is irritating me and is irrelevant when you use your eyes and look at the performances.
We are absolutely bobbins and seem to be set on producing the same madness week after week.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:56 pm**

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:10 pm
Worrying times what are you on about are you a a disciple or a bedwetter

No a realist

Played 9 won 1 conceded 23 goal's

We we're terrible today against a poor Brentford team

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 9:01 pm**

mikeS wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm
You can add Everton and Forest to the four.

No it’s been a league of 4 from the start
Forest and Everton are on n a different level for now

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:03 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:18 pm
We only need to get results against the teams in our mini league of four and we'll be fine.

Please explain the logic here .

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:11 pm**

After last season I was expecting a lot more than what we have currently shown. Still plenty of time to go but the amount of goals we are conceding and the lack of leadership and fight are concerning.

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:51 pm**

I think the goal keeper is worse than when we went down...the centre halfs worse ...the full backs are the same with one older and worse and the other not good enough for the prem ...the midfield is worse than last time...we have a few nice wingers and foster is trying is best but would not get in another prem team

We do have younger players which is better..but with the players we have at the moment 4th from bottom is the best we will get...I think luton and Sheffield will out muscle some teams so relegation is more likely than not because Bournemouth will throw a lot of money at it in January..

But we have some hope for the future which I think is more than I had when we went down last time

Posted: **Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:12 pm**

Win every game in that mini-league and it only gets us to 18points.

I've not seen much to give me confidence we will find the 20 or more additional points we'll need from outside that mini-league.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:09 am**

wbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:51 pm
I think the goal keeper is worse than when we went down...the centre halfs worse ...the full backs are the same with one older and worse and the other not good enough for the prem ...the midfield is worse than last time...we have a few nice wingers and foster is trying is best but would not get in another prem team

We do have younger players which is better..but with the players we have at the moment 4th from bottom is the best we will get...I think luton and Sheffield will out muscle some teams so relegation is more likely than not because Bournemouth will throw a lot of money at it in January..

But we have some hope for the future which I think is more than I had when we went down last time

Foster Is easily good enough to play for any side outside of the top 7 or so.

The one shining light.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:19 am**

It's pretty much looking like that 4 will be immersed in a mainstay fashion but I'd expect others to flirt around there albeit briefly. I think a nervy end to the season will play out with uncertainty.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:01 am**

mikeS wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:27 pm
You can add Everton and Forest to the four.

Everton seem to be getting stronger especially if Calvert Lewin stays fit - they will bully us in the cup game
If Forest are struggling they will just spend another fortune in Jan

It is three from four for me and the worry is that whilst we may take points from them we don't look like we can take many points from any of the others especially away from home

CT described yesterday as finding it difficult to remember a worse Premier League performance that he has seen - sums it up

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:08 am**

You can add Palace in there too.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:17 am**

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:01 am
Everton seem to be getting stronger especially if Calvert Lewin stays fit - they will bully us in the cup game
If Forest are struggling they will just spend another fortune in Jan

It is three from four for me and the worry is that whilst we may take points from them we don't look like we can take many points from any of the others especially away from home

CT described yesterday as finding it difficult to remember a worse Premier League performance that he has seen - sums it up

Not difficult to remember that was the worst premier league performance I have ever seen.

We love being loyal to a manager but let’s be honest if VK was at any other club we would all be laughing and saying he will be getting sacked soon

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:22 am**

mikeS wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:08 am
You can add Palace in there too.

Under Hodgson I think Palace will always grind out just enough points to keep themselves out of it. Even Luton and Sheff U are battling away and making teams work hard to beat them(with the odd exception).

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:23 am**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:17 am
Not difficult to remember that was the worst premier league performance I have ever seen.

We love being loyal to a manager but let’s be honest if VK was at any other club we would all be laughing and saying he will be getting sacked soon

You've been in 'sack him' mode for a while now - I keep seeing posts from you suggesting this - but fortunately others have more sense.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:25 am**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:17 am
Not difficult to remember that was the worst premier league performance I have ever seen.

We love being loyal to a manager but let’s be honest if VK was at any other club we would all be laughing and saying he will be getting sacked soon

How about when newly promoted Leeds pumped us 4-0 at the Turf in 2022? We played walking football in that one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57034891

Or we went into a must win game at an almost relegated Norwich later in the season and left with an abysmal performance and 2-0 defeat?

You also must not have watched us in the Coyle or Laws Prem days.

Yesterday was bad, first half especially, but second we played pretty well until their goal against the run of play (two stunning finishes I might add).

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:29 am**

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:22 am
Under Hodgson I think Palace will always grind out just enough points to keep themselves out of it. Even Luton and Sheff U are battling away and making teams work hard to beat them(with the odd exception).

Not forgetting olise & eze due back at some point getting torn to shreds by Newcastle shouldn't determine any teams destiny they can & have & will do it to the best of them.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:38 am**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:25 am
but second we played pretty well until their goal against the run of play (two stunning finishes I might add).

We are conceding these "stunning" goals with regularity at the moment suggesting we are making it far too easy for the opposition to score them.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:42 am**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:38 am
We are conceding these "stunning" goals with regularity at the moment suggesting we are making it far too easy for the opposition to score them.

Certainly a sound observation. The second in particular he’s clearly got way too much space. The third seems just an incredible hit.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:51 am**

It's clearly 3 from 4 and there's not a chance all 4 teams hit 35 points.

We looked small, soft and timid against City yet many wanted to dismiss any fears because of the opposition without understanding that we would still look small, soft and timid in October.

We look fodder, everyone outside of Burnley can see it, and the pressure next week? WOW

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:55 am**

Bournemouth will probably change manager imminently. It might work for them but it might not.

Palace, Forest, Everton, Wolves etc. are far stronger than ourselves, Luton and Sheffield United.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:59 am**

getbennyon wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:51 am
It's clearly 3 from 4 and there's not a chance all 4 teams hit 35 points.

We looked small, soft and timid against City yet many wanted to dismiss any fears because of the opposition without understanding that we would still look small, soft and timid in October.

We look fodder, everyone outside of Burnley can see it, and the pressure next week? WOW

I wouldn’t eliminate the inside of burnley seeing it just some are in denial about how bad things have become or allowed to become without being too dramatical, the wrong sort of signings have been made in positions & other positions that needed bolstering have been neglected.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:01 am**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:18 pm
We only need to get results against the teams in our mini league of four and we'll be fine.

Was it last week you said I know nothing about football

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:03 am**

While I get things are pretty shite at the moment, we arguably should have beat Forest at Forest a few weeks back so I don’t agree they’re far stronger. A lot of this is down to the manager.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:04 am**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 8:38 am
We are conceding these "stunning" goals with regularity at the moment suggesting we are making it far too easy for the opposition to score them.

You've hit the nail on the head. We are giving the opposition far too much space with terrible defending making these stunning goals quite easy. The amount of space they had for the two yesterday was so poor.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:10 am**

Carwin261 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:24 pm
The thing is Bournemouth have more experience and Sheff U,& Luton have some big guys who will get the odd big result like we did with Sean Dyche ,this lot couldn’t out muscle an under 11’s girls team.

Again, I think we need a little breather. We outmuscled, if you want to call it that, one of those teams on their family patch a few weeks ago. Sheffield United have just equalled their own lowest points record at the start of the season so I don’t get how they’re being held up as a paragon of steeliness to replicate.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:12 am**

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:10 am
Again, I think we need a little breather. We outmuscled, if you want to call it that, one of those teams on their family patch a few weeks ago. Sheffield United have just equalled their own lowest points record at the start of the season so I don’t get how they’re being held up as a paragon of steeliness to replicate.

Well, they aren’t getting tubbed every week.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:13 am**

Murger wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:12 am
Well, they aren’t getting tubbed every week.

Sheff Utd 0-8 Newcastle

What would you call that?

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:13 am**

Murger wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:12 am
Well, they aren’t getting tubbed every week.

Blades conceded 8 in one match!

The end result is exactly the same. Nada points. We’ve shown we can beat Luton, we should’ve beat Forest. The tools are there, the manager needs to stop throwing his tactics board in the air and seeing where it lands.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:16 am**

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:10 am
Again, I think we need a little breather. We outmuscled, if you want to call it that, one of those teams on their family patch a few weeks ago. Sheffield United have just equalled their own lowest points record at the start of the season so I don’t get how they’re being held up as a paragon of steeliness to replicate.

You're right - we shouldn't be holding Sheff Utd up given they are bottom of the league, have lost five on the bounce and have conceded more goals than us which is some achievement given how poor we are defensively.

Posted: **Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:22 am**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:13 am
Sheff Utd 0-8 Newcastle

What would you call that?

Tbf that’s not every week is it

We are consistently getting destroyed

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