Bournemouth v Burnley MATCH THREAD

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:51 pm

Not a good first half, lucky to still be in it. The difference between today and the last time we played at their place last season is night-day.

TommyPicks · Post by **TommyPicks** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:51 pm

Rabbit in headlights sums up the whole season thus far

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:51 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:49 pm
To be fair we've always been bad at throw-ins.

That is true

consistent at them, at least

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:51 pm

Damn, we really need to step up our game. Almost gave away a goal at the end because they were so much quicker to the ball then we were.
They look a lot sharper.
We couldn't control the game after going ahead.
Come on Burnley, we can do better.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:51 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:50 pm
If it was ‘100%’ out of the area surely VAR spots it?

Please tell me that's not your excuse given some of the clangers VAR have dropped this season?

I did say I need to see it again but I saw it on the reply and it still looked outside.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:46 pm
Trafford current passing stats 8 completed from 20

I know some people are big on stats on here when it suits !

I could have told you that before we kicked off.

They press our defence so we can’t go short and then we the invisible man up top that can’t hold a ball up to save his life.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:48 pm
Trafford I think may have handled that outside….

He was lucky that they didn't have the correct camera angles in place although admittedly it was very very tight

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:46 pm
Trafford current passing stats 8 completed from 20

I know some people are big on stats on here when it suits !

His passing is Pope levels.
Why does Kompany love him so much?

We NEED Muric

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm

OK. I'll say it...

What could Dyche do with this current crop of players?

Lol

Tongue in cheek folks. Tongue in cheek.

Florian · Post by **Florian** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

Taylor is shite
End of

Goal fair enough. Hes not good enough

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

other than first 10 minutes we are not at it playing a left winger on right says it all .

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

Trafford is a weak link, in a defence full of weak links.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

Awful, we only look dangerous when we occasionally run at them, but oh no we pass sideways back and launch it. Sorry VK you are getting this so wrong yet again.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

Not sure if Trafford handballed it but there was no way it was denial of a goalscoring opportunity anyway.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:49 pm
Bournemouth were poor
We were poorer

Which is the worrying thing, its a crap Bournemouth we're playing, not Arsenal or City or the like.

Got to get on the front foot here and take it to em.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm
He was lucky that they didn't have the correct camera angles in place although admittedly it was very very tight

I can’t see how it would have been a red card offence in any instance.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

Got to get Amdouni off asap.

Currently playing with ten men

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:50 pm
Crying out for Cork but I know this wont happen

It’s an absolute joke but you’re right. Should have been starting weeks ago, it’s clear to anyone our problems are arising from having no midfield control and our chronic inability to play out despite insisting on doing so. He would improve (but not fix) both of these issues. Might only get 60 minutes out of him each week but even still.

Leyland Claret · Post by **Leyland Claret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

Trafford,Al Dakhil and Cullen should be nowhere near this starting 11

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:51 pm
Please tell me that's not your excuse given some of the clangers VAR have dropped this season?

I did say I need to see it again but I saw it on the reply and it still looked outside.

If he was 100% outside it’s not really a subjective decision.

A ball crossing a line either is or isn’t.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

Doesn’t matter if Trafford was outside the area - Bournemouth player had his boot at shoulder height

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

We give hope to every team we play. They smell blood when we're dossing about with it and it ends up giving them and their fans a boost to the point we make them look like world beaters v kids. Fingers crossed for a good start to the second half and to take some control

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

Florian wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm
Taylor is shite
End of

Goal fair enough. Hes not good enough

He’s a big problem with playing out. Press him so he turns onto his right foot and he’s screwed.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

Listening to talksport 2, but dont think I have heard JBG, or Amdouini's names mentioned more than once all first half, whilst Zarourry, Vitinho, Cullen Brownhill and O'Shea seem to be quite involved. Sounds like their right winger Samedi is needing to be tied down as he is just running through us on a regular basis

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

The Trafford criticism is over the top. Muric is probably a better passer, yes, and I'm a big fan. But Muric, Trafford, or Pirlo in goal... Doesn't matter how good you are at passing if the opposition press effectively and if the people recieving the ball aren't good enough with it.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm
If he was 100% outside it’s not really a subjective decision.

A ball crossing a line either is or isn’t.

Have you actually seen it? Other people on here also seem to think he was over the line.

I've seen VAR drop non subjective decisions so what's your point?

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm

Berge and Rodriguez on, for me.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm

Started brightly but massively faded and just inviting pressure as ball is not sticking anywhere mainly due to an incredibly poor formation/ wrong personnel

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm

Zom Zom wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm
OK. I'll say it...

What could Dyche do with this current crop of players?

Lol

Tongue in cheek folks. Tongue in cheek.

Will we find out next week?

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm
Got to get Amdouni off asap.

Currently playing with ten men

Talented lad but horrific type to have in a relegation battle. Like Benito Carbone at Bradford.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm

Berge for Cullen, in jay for amdouni.

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm

Come on, lads. We're well in this game. It's inevitably going to be scrappy as both teams low on confidence, but we only need a marginal increase in performance levels and we can win this.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm

JRod for Amdouni please

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:56 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm
The Trafford criticism is over the top. Muric is probably a better passer, yes, and I'm a big fan. But Muric, Trafford, or Pirlo in goal... Doesn't matter how good you are at passing if the opposition press effectively and if the people recieving the ball aren't good enough with it.

Nailed it

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:56 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:53 pm
I can’t see how it would have been a red card offence in any instance.

I don't think it was a red card incident tbf

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:56 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm
If he was 100% outside it’s not really a subjective decision.

A ball crossing a line either is or isn’t.

Also as others have said it was not a red card offence so VAR wouldn't intervene anyway?

Still doesn't mean he didn't handle it outside the area.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:57 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:54 pm
Have you actually seen it? Other people on here also seem to think he was over the line.

I've seen VAR drop non subjective decisions so what's your point?

Yes I have and looked tight. Just not sure how you’ve decided it was 100% outside the area unless you’ve seen an angle from overhead looking directly down. 100% indicates there’s zero doubt.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:57 pm

The number of times we go from having comfortable possession just inside the opponents half then end up with the ball back with the goalkeeper and under pressure is staggering. We end up then taking the risks in our own third rather than the oppositions. It’s really negative football and hard to see what the plan is.

The positives being Bournemouth don’t look good (although worryingly better than us) and we’re in the game. Big half of football needed and this team is capable of it. Not in any way confident that we’ll get it though.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:57 pm

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:55 pm
Berge and Rodriguez on, for me.

Having seen the appearances that Rodriguez has made this year you are better bringing on someone like Larsen or Redmond instead of him, as he will offer very little and keep Andouini on. Time for one of our players to step up-it was happening on a regular basis last season, when a few had the ability to change the game

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:58 pm

Zom Zom wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 pm
OK. I'll say it...

What could Dyche do with this current crop of players?

Lol

Tongue in cheek folks. Tongue in cheek.

He wouldn’t have a scooby what to do with these players, probably play route one hoof ball.

It Is What It Is · Post by **It Is What It Is** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:58 pm

I'd be more than happy with just a point today as
Bournemouth looking the more likely to take 3 points.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:59 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:58 pm
He wouldn’t have a scooby what to do with these players, probably play route one hoof ball.

Dyche keeps this squad up comfortably IMO

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:59 pm

No idea how we survived the run of corners they had. Trafford looks about 5ft 9. Good finish by Taylor followed by a big error which costs us. Amdouni a passenger again. We struggle all over the pitch with our lack of height. And to compound everything Bournemouth have been atrocious and should be at least 2 up. Just got to get their shots on target

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:59 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:57 pm
Yes I have and looked tight. Just not sure how you’ve decided it was 100% outside the area unless you’ve seen an angle from overhead looking directly down. 100% indicates there’s zero doubt.

Well I used my eyes and made the decision that he was outside of the area. Quite simple really even for you to grasp.

You seem to be weirdly trying to defend Trafford, I'm not having a go at him, but after seeing it again I'm still firm that he was outside of the area.

Take the claret tinted specs off bud. We're awful it doesn't really matter.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:59 pm
Dyche keeps this squad up comfortably IMO

Come on man not a chance this defence / keeper are a shambles

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Jay is warming up...

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Also agree that we need Rodriguez on, we need a real centre forward in Foster’s absence. That probably means Amdouni makes way, or possibly Zaroury.

The fact that we need to turn to Rodriguez is not a good reflection on our transfer window, and it’s starting to look like letting Barnes leave was a poor decision.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:25 pm
Koleosho gives the ball away far too easily. Should not be starting.

He’s the only threat we have ,how can you say he shouldn’t be starting?

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Berge for Brownhill please, he's not a Prem player, in the Championship hes a 7/10 at everything which makes him very good, in the Prem, 4-5/10 at everything.

Brun Larsen for either winger, probably Zaroury he's been quiet.

Trafford's distribution been awful and just means we're continually back under pressure. I've been giving him credit last few games but he's had a bad game so far. We just can't clear our lines- half of it is midfield retention but half of it today is trying to build up or play through a keeper who's struggling to find a teammate.

Vitinho done better than expected. Taylor doing fine until his error for the goal and since then gone to pot.

We massively miss Foster.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:00 pm

Need 4-2-3-1. Cullen and Brownhill must sit and help the defence . Annis hasn't offered much so switch Koleosho to the left and bring Larson on . Who is our goalkeeping coach ? From corners both Trafford and Muric stay stuck on their line even if the balls floated into the 6 yard box !