fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:55 pm

Which part of the sacking story is he claiming is untrue?

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:05 pm

I've heard a few things about Stan that would get you sacked for bullying if it happened in other workplaces.

claretburns wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:26 pm

Didn't want to sign for Burnley but in the meeting with Waddle had around 15 pints of Guinness and signed.

Training facilities were awful, tried to embrace the club but never wanted to be here.

Signed a 3 year deal, £1,200 per week and £16,000 signing on fee.

Changing room was a mess, all the players didn't like Roeder or Waddle.

Had a team meeting after losing 2-1 at York and Paul Barnes went crazy at the team and management.

Glen Little a big character in the dressing room but didn't like Roeder and this caused issues in the dressing room.

Bringing Glen Little into the team was the reason we survived that season.

The players we had weren't suited to the style Waddle wanted to play.

Howey became the figurehead for everything wrong at the club and the fans hated him.

Northampton away Howey played up front and Andy Cooke was dropped, missed a header in front of Burnley fans and they started spitting at him.

Has a thick skin but the abuse really got to him.

Didn't gel with the players, wasn't a drinking culture, he lived near Harrogate and other players were living around Manchester so couldn't socialise and get with the group.

Soon as training was finished every just left and went home, no socialising.

In his Burnley career probably played well in just 5 or 6 games.

Stan came in and first day and told all the players how sh*t they were, asked can anyone take a long throw in, one of the players said "yes, I can", Stan replied "right, you're in my team, the rest of you I'll make my mind up".

Had left Harrogate and moved back to Sunderland and so was travelling from Sunderland each day for training, Stan made him move closer so he moved in with Glen Little.

Howey feels he was a good pro, worked hard.

Bury in the cup he was injured and couldn't play, Stan begged him to play in the game.

York at home, Howey was injured but played because Stan asked, just before half time we got a throw in and Stan shouted at Howey to get forward, Howey shouted back that he was knackered and couldn't do it, Stan kept shouting so Howey told him to F*ck off. Went in at half time and he was sat between Brotherwick and Winstanley, Stan comes into the dressing room and shouts at him "Never f*cking speak to me like that, anyway you're f*cking sacked." Howey replied "f*cking good" and ripped his shirt off.

Went into the shower and heard Stan say "and you're sacked and you'll never play for the club again" Howey not being in the room didn't know who at the time but then learnt it was Blatherwick and Winstanley who were sat next to Howey and their response was "what have we done wrong?"

Sam Ellis called him after the game and said to come in the next day for a running session, then had a meeting with Stan who said he would never play for Burnley again, Howey said fine but you'll need to sell me as I have a year and half left on my contract. Stan remarked how much the club had paid him already for little return but Howey didn't care and wanted paying as his contract entitled him to it.

Turned up for training but was told he was not training with the team, he had to wait until training finished to do some running with Mick Doherty.

3 weeks later, Stoke wanted Howey but Stan told Stoke to f*ck off and made Howey stay to make him run and wouldn't let him leave. Howey was fuming about it and hates Stan. Really got on with Mick Doherty and Mick didn't want to make him run but had to because of Stan.

Deal agreed with Northampton, Burnley owed Howey £20,000 but Stan wouldn't pay him the money, Howey said he would come back to training the next day then, Stan slammed the phone down, half hour later club secretary called back to say they are trying to do a deal with the chairman, Howey remarked he wanted all the money or he wouldn't go. Secretary then called back in tears because she relayed the message to Stan who became very horrible with her. Did a deal for £20,000 minus tax which was £12,000.

Howey felt if he stayed he would have killed him as he absolutely hated his guts. Howey spoke with Peter Swann who said it was the plan all along to get rid of Howey and free up the wages to bring Peter Swann in to the club.

Last game of the season Northampton played Burnley and Howey scored for Northampton and it is one of his favourite goals in his career.

Stan's book where he spoke about the radio/sacking incident is all a pack of lies and none of it about the story is true.

HahaYeah wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:34 am

Seem to remember at the time that some fans were convinced that Howey was related to Waddle!

Wokingclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:18 am

"Didn't want to sign for Burnley but in the meeting with Waddle had around 15 pints of Guinness and signed."

Tells us all we needed to know........

claretburns wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:26 pm

Didn't want to sign for Burnley but in the meeting with Waddle had around 15 pints of Guinness and signed.

Training facilities were awful, tried to embrace the club but never wanted to be here.

Signed a 3 year deal, £1,200 per week and £16,000 signing on fee.

Changing room was a mess, all the players didn't like Roeder or Waddle.

Had a team meeting after losing 2-1 at York and Paul Barnes went crazy at the team and management.

Glen Little a big character in the dressing room but didn't like Roeder and this caused issues in the dressing room.

Bringing Glen Little into the team was the reason we survived that season.

The players we had weren't suited to the style Waddle wanted to play.

Howey became the figurehead for everything wrong at the club and the fans hated him.

Northampton away Howey played up front and Andy Cooke was dropped, missed a header in front of Burnley fans and they started spitting at him.

Has a thick skin but the abuse really got to him.

Didn't gel with the players, wasn't a drinking culture, he lived near Harrogate and other players were living around Manchester so couldn't socialise and get with the group.

Soon as training was finished every just left and went home, no socialising.

In his Burnley career probably played well in just 5 or 6 games.

Stan came in and first day and told all the players how sh*t they were, asked can anyone take a long throw in, one of the players said "yes, I can", Stan replied "right, you're in my team, the rest of you I'll make my mind up".

Had left Harrogate and moved back to Sunderland and so was travelling from Sunderland each day for training, Stan made him move closer so he moved in with Glen Little.

Howey feels he was a good pro, worked hard.

Bury in the cup he was injured and couldn't play, Stan begged him to play in the game.

York at home, Howey was injured but played because Stan asked, just before half time we got a throw in and Stan shouted at Howey to get forward, Howey shouted back that he was knackered and couldn't do it, Stan kept shouting so Howey told him to F*ck off. Went in at half time and he was sat between Brotherwick and Winstanley, Stan comes into the dressing room and shouts at him "Never f*cking speak to me like that, anyway you're f*cking sacked." Howey replied "f*cking good" and ripped his shirt off.

Went into the shower and heard Stan say "and you're sacked and you'll never play for the club again" Howey not being in the room didn't know who at the time but then learnt it was Blatherwick and Winstanley who were sat next to Howey and their response was "what have we done wrong?"

Sam Ellis called him after the game and said to come in the next day for a running session, then had a meeting with Stan who said he would never play for Burnley again, Howey said fine but you'll need to sell me as I have a year and half left on my contract. Stan remarked how much the club had paid him already for little return but Howey didn't care and wanted paying as his contract entitled him to it.

Turned up for training but was told he was not training with the team, he had to wait until training finished to do some running with Mick Doherty.

3 weeks later, Stoke wanted Howey but Stan told Stoke to f*ck off and made Howey stay to make him run and wouldn't let him leave. Howey was fuming about it and hates Stan. Really got on with Mick Doherty and Mick didn't want to make him run but had to because of Stan.

Deal agreed with Northampton, Burnley owed Howey £20,000 but Stan wouldn't pay him the money, Howey said he would come back to training the next day then, Stan slammed the phone down, half hour later club secretary called back to say they are trying to do a deal with the chairman, Howey remarked he wanted all the money or he wouldn't go. Secretary then called back in tears because she relayed the message to Stan who became very horrible with her. Did a deal for £20,000 minus tax which was £12,000.

Howey felt if he stayed he would have killed him as he absolutely hated his guts. Howey spoke with Peter Swann who said it was the plan all along to get rid of Howey and free up the wages to bring Peter Swann in to the club.

Last game of the season Northampton played Burnley and Howey scored for Northampton and it is one of his favourite goals in his career.

Stan's book where he spoke about the radio/sacking incident is all a pack of lies and none of it about the story is true.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:35 pm

Is this one behind their pay wall? I'm not seeing it on YouTube. I never found the Brian Laws one either.

I'm currenty half way through the Graham Westley one. He truly is the real life David Brent.

claretburns wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:54 pm

It is behind the pay wall. All episodes are released there first before some are available on YouTube, not sure if this will stay behind the pay wall or become available in next couple of days.

Gp8419 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:37 pm

Lee Howey played like he was p***ed most of the time,the biggest come down ever when waddle signed all these great players we was shocking. I remember watching that Macclesfield game we won on a Sunday at home I remember feeling if we lost that we was down. Luckily won it 4-2 I think but it went one way then the other all afternoon.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:20 pm

Macc was 4-3 but Howey was long gone by then

Gp8419 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:43 am

It was even closer than I thought I remember it being one of the most nerve wrecking games I’ve ever watched us play.i wasn’t sure howey played or not.One things for sure we had some shocking centre half’s around that era.