January transfer window rumours.

[Goliath]

Pace, I imagine. Same reason I don’t think he fancied THB at this level. Did think Everton might be the game we’d bring him back in given they don’t have a lot of pace up front

This is such a frustrating narrow minded view from Kompany. Theres so much more to being a good centre back then pace. Especially now weve slightly adapted our system so centre backs are less exposed. We clearly missed an aggressive dominating presence at centre back but then leave Ekdal out of the team every week. Im a big fan of VK but he doesnt help himself at times

[NewClaret]

This is such a frustrating narrow minded view from Kompany. Theres so much more to being a good centre back then pace. Especially now weve slightly adapted our system so centre backs are less exposed. We clearly missed an aggressive dominating presence at centre back but then leave Ekdal out of the team every week. Im a big fan of VK but he doesnt help himself at times

Well the pace point is more just my assumption. Maybe it’s about injury recovery.

Yes, I think there’s good case for both Muric in and Ekdal at the back. I want to see Benny given a lot more than 10 minutes next game too.

[Goliath]

Well the pace point is more just my assumption. Maybe it’s about injury recovery.

Yes, I think there’s good case for both Muric in and Ekdal at the back. I want to see Benny given a lot more than 10 minutes next game too.

I think youre right, he clearly wants to play a high line with pacey defenders but surely you have to adapt to circustances as well. Evertons threat wasnt in behind so pace wasnt an issue.

Bensons a strange player, hes got a great talent for dictating the whole flow of a game as soon as he comes on. But he is lazy and will leave us wide open if we play him in our current 442.. If we are to get him and/or Tresor in the starting line up then we have to change system

[Cooclaret]

I think 99.9% of our fans wouldn’t boo any of the kids that have come through the youth set up,but back in the day a pal of mine played in the youth team and he always said that the lads that came from away were always really well looked after ,but the ones who came from the immediate vicinity tended to be forgotten about as soon as a game was finished and left to their own devices.

An academy one of my boys plays at had a new ‘manager’ he released almost all of the local lads who didn’t have an agreement and brought in lads from Liverpool. Destroyed three full years of player development. Lads got bored of travelling, left. No squads left, club had 4/5 lads in an age group.

He then got the boot for texting multiple mother's.

[Woodleyclaret]

Benny scored goals that took us up
This ridiculous notion he needs to track back is a waste of his ability.We have Berge and Brownhill to tackle in midfield and two full backs to cover the wings.Admittedly Berge and Brownhill were woeful v Everton and offered little in effort or playmaking bar Berge strike against the bar
Bennys there to score wonder goals which weve missed in his absence.

[burnley007]

any transfer rumours?

[BurnleyFC]

Koleosho apart, I’ve seen nothing from our other wingers to suggest they’re even as good as Benson, let alone better than him.

He needs to be be starting games now.

[CoolClaret]

I think youre right, he clearly wants to play a high line with pacey defenders but surely you have to adapt to circustances as well. Evertons threat wasnt in behind so pace wasnt an issue.

Bensons a strange player, hes got a great talent for dictating the whole flow of a game as soon as he comes on. But he is lazy and will leave us wide open if we play him in our current 442.. If we are to get him and/or Tresor in the starting line up then we have to change system

I'm not a huge fan of three at the back (and we'd neef a left wing back) but I'm starting to think it's the only thing that'd work for us

------Beyer-Ekdal-Chaz
Vitinho--Berge--Brownhill--?
------Flair player1---Flair player2
---------------Foster

Think it's the best compromise - think Beyer and Chaz would be suited for the RCB/LCB roles respectively as well

[Goliath]

I'm not a huge fan of three at the back (and we'd neef a left wing back) but I'm starting to think it's the only thing that'd work for us

------Beyer-Ekdal-Chaz
Vitinho--Berge--Brownhill--?
------Flair player1---Flair player2
---------------Foster

Think it's the best compromise - think Beyer and Chaz would be suited for the RCB/LCB roles respectively as well

Agreed, 3 at the back is a risk but if the olayera buy in its probably our best chance of finding a balance between scoring whilst maintaining some form of solidarity.
This is the team i posted in another thread, very similar to what youve gone with and could easily be changed bacj to 4 at the back if it isnt working.

...............Muric

......Beyer Ekdal Taylor

Roberts Berge Brownhill JBG/Odobert

.........Benson........Tresor

...................Foster

[alf_resco]

Re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic comes to mind.

[Nori1958]

Team talk linking Che Adams

[claretonthecoast1882]

Team talk linking Che Adams

In the last 6 months of his contract is probably the appeal for him to be considered

[Nori1958]

In the last 6 months of his contract is probably the appeal for him to be considered

Carnt think of any other reason tbh

[boatshed bill]

I heard that we are interested in a "midfield destroyer" today on TBS, didn't catch the name but £15m?

[claretonthecoast1882]

I heard that we are interested in a "midfield destroyer" today on TBS, didn't catch the name but £15m?

Papa Gueye from Marseille

[boatshed bill]

Papa Gueye from Marseille

Ah yes, apparently not in their 1st 11.

[NewClaret]

Papa Gueye from Marseille

Don’t know anything about him. I’ve watched a few YT videos and he looks okay. Like he can make a tackle and has a long pass on him.

Don’t know where the €15m comes from though. If it’s who I’ve looked up he has never commanded a fee, is not getting in the Marseille team and he’s out of contract in June. Not sure we’re going to stump up €15m in those circumstances.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Don’t know anything about him. I’ve watched a few YT videos and he looks okay. Like he can make a tackle and has a long pass on him.

Don’t know where the €15m comes from though. If it’s who I’ve looked up he has never commanded a fee, is not getting in the Marseille team and he’s out of contract in June. Not sure we’re going to stump up €15m in those circumstances.

15m seems steep but he does also have Champions league, Europa league pedigree and at 24 he has 4 seasons experience in top leagues.

The above isn’t exactly accurate when available he’s played every game. But unfortunately he was suspended for 4 months by CAS.

[Hipper]

I heard that we are interested in a "midfield destroyer" today on TBS, didn't catch the name but £15m?

Surely we need a battleship.

[NewClaret]

15m seems steep but he does also have Champions league, Europa league pedigree and at 24 he has 4 seasons experience in top leagues.

The above isn’t exactly accurate when available he’s played every game. But unfortunately he was suspended for 4 months by CAS.

How come?

[Newcastleclaret93]

How come?

Don’t know the ins and outs of it. Assume it’s something to do with betting or something like that

[randomclaret2]

Don’t know the ins and outs of it. Assume it’s something to do with betting or something like that

He joined Watford in the summer of 2020 on a free transfer from Le Havre, but was somehow sold to Marseille 17 hours later....the suspension was due to questions raised by this " unusual " series of events...

[Newcastleclaret93]

He joined Watford in the summer of 2020 on a free transfer from Le Havre, but was somehow sold to Marseille 17 hours later....the suspension was due to questions raised by this " unusual " series of events...

Wow that is interesting

[NewClaret]

Sounds exactly the type of player we need to be staying well away from if you ask me.

[CryerBFC]

I read online something to do with issues in his wage at Watford, miscommunicated through his agent and didn’t go through with the transfer.

[IanMcL]

Surely we need a battleship.

Certainly not a Cruiser!

[brexit]

Agreed, 3 at the back is a risk but if the olayera buy in its probably our best chance of finding a balance between scoring whilst maintaining some form of solidarity.
This is the team i posted in another thread, very similar to what youve gone with and could easily be changed bacj to 4 at the back if it isnt working.

...............Muric

......Beyer Ekdal Taylor

Roberts Berge Brownhill JBG/Odobert

.........Benson........Tresor

...................Foster

Suggested this early October got slated said we would leak goals

[Goliath]

Suggested this early October got slated said we would leak goals

Dont see why it would, it covers out weaknesses quite well. Ekdals lack of pace is protected, his and Taylors aggression and ability in the air would help protect Bayer and the 3 centre backs would provide more protection for our pretty woeful full backs along with the central midfielders covering across either side.

Just as importantly, it gets our most creative players on the pitch in Tresor and Benson, freeing them from having too much defensive duty. If we needed more protection we could replace one with Odobert who can get up and down pretty well.

Obviously the wing backs are the worry, but im pretty sure JBG would have absolutely no problem converting to it or for more attacking threat we could use Odobert in the same way Conte used Victor Moses a few years ago.

[ClaretinJapan]

Steve Harper in as a back up winger.

[It Is What It Is]

Have we nobody on this forum who works at Barnfield or The Turf who can slide on some interesting posts as to what's really going on re transfers.
The Brownhill to Wolves worries me.

[CoolClaret]

Have we nobody on this forum who works at Barnfield or The Turf who can slide on some interesting posts as to what's really going on re transfers.
The Brownhill to Wolves worries me.

If Brownhill doesn’t pen a new deal between now and the start of January I can only imagine that he’ll be off.

The club aren’t going to let someone walk away on a free again, imo.

[Newcastleclaret93]

If Brownhill doesn’t pen a new deal between now and the start of January I can only imagine that he’ll be off.

The club aren’t going to let someone walk away on a free again, imo.

Is he really gonna go somewhere where he’s not gonna play?

Can you honestly see him starting at Wolves

[CoolClaret]

Is he really gonna go somewhere where he’s not gonna play?

Can you honestly see him starting at Wolves

He will go where he’s going to be getting the best deal I feel - maybe to a team that appreciates his efforts a bit more as well.

The last thing he wants to do is imagine is go down for another season in the Champ.

[Newcastleclaret93]

He will go where he’s going to be getting the best deal I feel - maybe to a team that appreciates his efforts a bit more as well.

The last thing he wants to do is imagine is go down for another season in the Champ.

Fair shout, he could probs get a pay rise going to wolves. I just suspect that will pretty much end his career as he’s never going to play regularly for a team like that.

[It Is What It Is]

Yes, he will get game time and lot better chance he'll be an EPL player though next season.
I know we have an option to extend his contract but money talks.

[CoolClaret]

Fair shout, he could probs get a pay rise going to wolves. I just suspect that will pretty much end his career as he’s never going to play regularly for a team like that.

Well, he’s scored more goals than any of their midfielders so far this season.

Like I said - under appreciated.

[123EasyasBFC]

If Brownhill doesn’t pen a new deal between now and the start of January I can only imagine that he’ll be off.

The club aren’t going to let someone walk away on a free again, imo.

There’s a year extension in the clubs favour so in theory he has 18 months left on his contract, club can wait till end of season to trigger the extension

[CoolClaret]

There’s a year extension in the clubs favour so in theory he has 18 months left on his contract, club can wait till end of season to trigger the extension

They can but he can still walk at the end of that.

I imagine if a half decent offer comes in, either in Jan or Summer then he will be off and I can't say that I blame him.

[Quickenthetempo]

We need someone far better with the ball than Brownhill in our midfield.
Hopefully he gets a move to a team almost finished, just lacking his type of player.

He's a decent lad and served us well, but if we can get a decent fee and better replacement. Then we should.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Well, he’s scored more goals than any of their midfielders so far this season.

Like I said - under appreciated.

He’s ok for us, but we are shite.

Can’t see him getting in ahead of Gomes, Lemina, Traore. There’s levels above

[CoolClaret]

He’s ok for us, but we are shite.

Can’t see him getting in ahead of Gomes, Lemina, Traore. There’s levels above

Aye we are but we will miss him.

[jedi_master]

Just like how I feel about Kompany, I apply the same logic to players like Brownhill, Cullen and Roberts etc. We are almost certainly getting relegated - why would I want rid, at this stage, of these players? Brownhill is a class act in the Championship and I'd be happy to keep him and have him walk for free in 2025 having hopefully secured promotion again. I don't see him bringing in a fee that would drastically alter our financial fortunes so it's surely a better bet to look towards trying our best to guarantee an immediate return for the TV money.

[NewClaret]

Just like how I feel about Kompany, I apply the same logic to players like Brownhill, Cullen and Roberts etc. We are almost certainly getting relegated - why would I want rid, at this stage, of these players? Brownhill is a class act in the Championship and I'd be happy to keep him and have him walk for free in 2025 having hopefully secured promotion again. I don't see him bringing in a fee that would drastically alter our financial fortunes so it's surely a better bet to look towards trying our best to guarantee an immediate return for the TV money.

I agree with this. You have to assume in the Championship we will lose JBG and JRod next year. We need to retain a few solid pro’s to give ourselves the best chance of promotion.

If the fees muted are £7m I read somewhere there’s far bigger prizes on offer by keeping him, but could understand the club being attracted to an offer in the £15-£20m region.

[Walkerpool]

We would definitely have more points with last seasons squad

[NewClaret]

We would definitely have more points with last seasons squad

We might, but I don’t think we’d have materially more and would likely still be in the drop zone.

Not worth discussing though since Maatsen didn’t want to come & Tella / THB went elsewhere on deals of £20m which we didn’t pay for a single player.

[burnmark]

Bristol City interested in Twine - £2.5 million according to Alan Nixon.

[Goliath]

Bristol City interested in Twine - £2.5 million according to Alan Nixon.

Aslong as we include a big sell on fee that would be an ok deal. Hes struggled to step up to championship level for 2 clubs now

[jedi_master]

If we go down would he not have a role to play? I’d save the decision till the summer.

[CoolClaret]

Bristol City interested in Twine - £2.5 million according to Alan Nixon.

Surely we want at least what we paid for him?

Shame with Twine, I do think there's a player in there - top technician... I'd still wait till the end of the season before moving him on.

[Jakubs Tash]

Surely we want at least what we paid for him?

Shame with Twine, I do think there's a player in there - top technician... I'd still wait till the end of the season before moving him on.

Wasn’t the initial fee we paid for him less than £2m? £1.7m rings a bell.