January transfer window rumours.

[CoolClaret]

It’ll be O’Shea to RB. He’s played there for WBA. Shame his distribution is so awful because defensively he has been excellent.

They have both played at right back for their respective clubs prior to joining BFC - Beyer more so.

His long range passing is fine, short term a bit iffy but getting better

[NewClaret]

It’ll be O’Shea to RB. He’s played there for WBA. Shame his distribution is so awful because defensively he has been excellent.

I agree that he’s been defensively excellent and also put some clangers of passes in. If he can improve his passing he’s going to be a hell of a player for us.

[NewClaret]

My heart sinks every time we win a corner.

Surely, we’ll convert 1 before seasons end.

No idea why warks’ heart sinks on conceding corners. We’re pretty good at defending them and crosses generally, and we defend a lot of them. Obviously we’re not quite as commanding as we were with Mee/Tarks at the back but we do a very good job defending them.

Agree with you that we are dreadful at taking them and that’s far more of a problem. Corners should be a really good opportunity to score and we massively lack a decent set piece taker. Have made this point re: Twine recently - he whips in brilliant balls and for that reason alone think he has a decent chance of making it be that high end champ player or Prem team.

I’d be working on corners day in, day out till we get better but at least they’re going in now (if not beating the first man - criminal in my view) and we’ve abandoned the silly short ones we can’t do. I’m all for a short one for variety, but as the exception not the rule.

[Nori1958]

Dundalk have signed Lawerence Vigoroux on a six month loan from Burnley.
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[CoolClaret]

No idea why warks’ heart sinks on conceding corners. We’re pretty good at defending them and crosses generally, and we defend a lot of them. Obviously we’re not quite as commanding as we were with Mee/Tarks at the back but we do a very good job defending them.

Agree with you that we are dreadful at taking them and that’s far more of a problem. Corners should be a really good opportunity to score and we massively lack a decent set piece taker. Have made this point re: Twine recently - he whips in brilliant balls and for that reason alone think he has a decent chance of making it be that high end champ player or Prem team.

I’d be working on corners day in, day out till we get better but at least they’re going in now (if not beating the first man - criminal in my view) and we’ve abandoned the silly short ones we can’t do. I’m all for a short one for variety, but as the exception not the rule.

Twiney looks to have filled out a bit, scored a great goal on debut for Bristol City, real towering header... Didn't think that he had that in him.

I'm convinced he will have his best years coming soon, just a late bloomer.

[Vegas Claret]

Dundalk have signed Lawerence Vigoroux on a six month loan from Burnley.
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Is that legit ??
how do you go from winning League 2, to joining us to then going to Dundalk ??? Surely to goodness he could have got a league club here

[Nori1958]

Is that legit ??
how do you go from winning League 2, to joining us to then going to Dundalk ??? Surely to goodness he could have got a league club here

Comes from a journo in dundalk so who knows?

Oberfemi going to Millwall on loan as well

[Goody1975]

Not sure if already posted

Obafemi to Millwall on loan

[Vegas Claret]

Comes from a journo in dundalk so who knows?

Oberfemi going to Millwall on loan as well

I get the Obafemi one but there's no way we couldn't find a team higher up than Dundalk for LV

[CoolClaret]

Is that legit ??
how do you go from winning League 2, to joining us to then going to Dundalk ??? Surely to goodness he could have got a league club here

I thought this, be a strange move that, surely not?

Yep Obafemi Millwall loan as well - think that's a good move for him.

[bumba]

Comes from a journo in dundalk so who knows?

Oberfemi going to Millwall on loan as well

Do you mean Vigouroux and Obafemi?

[Nori1958]

Do you mean Vigouroux and Obafemi?

No interest in any conversation with you, so go look elsewhere

[Murger]

Our transfer policy is all to cock. Sign players, don’t play them and then move them on. Bastien, Churlinov, Obefemi to name a few.

[Nori1958]

I get the Obafemi one but there's no way we couldn't find a team higher up than Dundalk for LV

It does seem a strange one, but on the other hand it's a strange thing for someone to make up

[Westleigh]

Our transfer policy is all to cock. Sign players, don’t play them and then move them on. Bastien, Churlinov, Obefemi to name a few.

Churlinov didn’t pull any trees up before his illness even though he had several chances ,it’s no point hanging on to him when he can’t get a subs role for us.

[Murger]

Churlinov didn’t pull any trees up before his illness even though he had several chances ,it’s no point hanging on to him when he can’t get a subs role for us.

Wasn’t given that much of a run out.

[bumba]

No interest in any conversation with you, so go look elsewhere

[jrgbfc]

Really don't understand why we signed Obafemi. Committing ourselves to a permanent deal was mental.

[Vegas Claret]

It sounds like Obafemi turned down Birmingham for MIllwall, I'm surprised Boro didn't go in for him

[Vegas Claret]

Really don't understand why we signed Obafemi. Committing ourselves to a permanent deal was mental.

low fee so I would suspect we would get our money back on him should we sell, not much of a risk. It does seem a little scatter gun but not to the levels of Nottingham Forest thankfully.

[Nori1958]

If you think describing someone as " sat rocking on the sofa" is appropriate then find someone else to talk to

[gandhisflipflop]

I’m really hoping we are loaning these players out to free up PL slots for us to sign players.

Does anyone know how many we now have free? Churlinov, Obefemi are presumably 2?

[PremierLeagueClass]

You have to look at the big picture. We’ve signed so many players over the last 18 months as part of a complete rebuild. If you look at the ratio of successful signings to bad ones we’re doing pretty well. The Obafemi signing is an anomaly in that it never made sense from the start (from the outside looking in). That said, if he scores a few at Millwall, he’s still young enough to command a decent fee.

[randomclaret2]

It does seem a strange one, but on the other hand it's a strange thing for someone to make up

Vigoroux has previously had a loan spell at Waterford in the League of Ireland

[KRBFC]

Our transfer policy is all to cock. Sign players, don’t play them and then move them on. Bastien, Churlinov, Obefemi to name a few.

So you name the 3 that didn’t work, you really believe a club can just sign a full squad in 12 months and they all turn out to be successful signings?

[KRBFC]

Really don't understand why we signed Obafemi. Committing ourselves to a permanent deal was mental.

Easy profit whilst having a backup striker (well if he wasn’t injured all the time)

He’s surely worth more than the £2.5m pittance (or whatever it was in that ballpark) we paid for him. Add on a years wages.

Wells went to Bristol for £5m how long ago? 5 years?

Maybe VK sees further development in him and a potential future here, fans don’t seem to understand that every signing is not for right now, it’s for years down the line once they have developed.

[KRBFC]

Also he’s been out all season injured including preseason, like Benson, these two need game time badly.

A loan is exactly that, a loan.

It doesn’t mean we’ve given up on the player, he will likely return and replace Rodriguez in the squad next year unless he bangs them in and Millwall come with a nice offer.

[Tricky Trevor]

Obafemi out on loan is good. Gets him much needed game time and keeps him on the books if we do get relegated. Nothing wrong with him at Championship level if he can stay fit.

[warksclaret]

No idea why warks’ heart sinks on conceding corners. We’re pretty good at defending them and crosses generally, and we defend a lot of them. Obviously we’re not quite as commanding as we were with Mee/Tarks at the back but we do a very good job defending them.

Agree with you that we are dreadful at taking them and that’s far more of a problem. Corners should be a really good opportunity to score and we massively lack a decent set piece taker. Have made this point re: Twine recently - he whips in brilliant balls and for that reason alone think he has a decent chance of making it be that high end champ player or Prem team.

I’d be working on corners day in, day out till we get better but at least they’re going in now (if not beating the first man - criminal in my view) and we’ve abandoned the silly short ones we can’t do. I’m all for a short one for variety, but as the exception not the rule.

It just seems like a number of goals scored from corners and free kicks where it has been crossed . Admittedly some of the goals conceded from corners is where we failed to clear and get recycled. Have to say the games v Everton and Arsenal have been painful in terms of free headers -Tarks, Onana, Saliba, Keane

[Goliath]

I get the feeling Kompany judges players as much in training as he does in matches. If they dont impress they are quickly out of the door seemingly.

[Rick_Muller]

I get the feeling Kompany judges players as much in training as he does in matches. If they dont impress they are quickly out of the door seemingly.

and rightly so IMO

[bumba]

If you think describing someone as " sat rocking on the sofa" is appropriate then find someone else to talk to

You said you didn't want a conversation, stop replying

[123EasyasBFC]

All obafemi needs to do is score 5 goals between now and end of season and we will easily make our money on him.

It did seem strange to sign him and foster last January

[Bigvince]

Obafemi loan doesn’t surprise me, he will have moved down the pecking order, since we’ve signed the Chelsea lad on loan.

[Goliath]

Really don't understand why we signed Obafemi. Committing ourselves to a permanent deal was mental.

If you think about it, it was actually quite clever business. It gave us a backup striker for the last 6 months of last season with a very low or even no upfront fee. If we didnt go up we then had a good Champ striker as backup for about 3 million.
If we went up its still 3 million but thats nothing when you have the Prem league and because we got him for a discounted fee then we could pretty easily make most of that back if not even make a profit.

I doubt Kompany ever had any real plan to make him an important part of the team, he was basically a free backup option for a year (apart from his wages).

[NewClaret]

All obafemi needs to do is score 5 goals between now and end of season and we will easily make our money on him.

It did seem strange to sign him and foster last January

What with the ageing Jay and Barnsey as our new boy strikers? Didn’t seem odd to me at all. Highly necessary, actually.

[TopCat]

If you think about it, it was actually quite clever business. It gave us a backup striker for the last 6 months of last season with a very low or even no upfront fee. If we didnt go up we then had a good Champ striker as backup for about 3 million.
If we went up its still 3 million but thats nothing when you have the Prem league and because we got him for a discounted fee then we could pretty easily make most of that back if not even make a profit.

I doubt Kompany ever had any real plan to make him an important part of the team, he was basically a free backup option for a year (apart from his wages).

I agree with this, but still thought he deserved more minutes. Surely a better option than Jay.

[Goliath]

I agree with this, but still thought he deserved more minutes. Surely a better option than Jay.

[alwaysaclaret]

Dundalk have signed Lawerence Vigoroux on a six month loan from Burnley.
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I'd confirmed, I'd expect muric to be staying put

[alwaysaclaret]

I'd confirmed, I'd expect muric to be staying put

If confirmed

[123EasyasBFC]

What with the ageing Jay and Barnsey as our new boy strikers? Didn’t seem odd to me at all. Highly necessary, actually.

We signed foster for 8m and then had barnes and jay rod, don’t really know what we saw in obafemi that made them think he would make an impact in the premier league especially the style we play

[jrgbfc]

We also knew we had Tella till the end of the season. In January we should have been trying to sign players we thought could step up and play in the Prem.

[boyyanno]

If you think about it, it was actually quite clever business. It gave us a backup striker for the last 6 months of last season with a very low or even no upfront fee. If we didnt go up we then had a good Champ striker as backup for about 3 million.
If we went up its still 3 million but thats nothing when you have the Prem league and because we got him for a discounted fee then we could pretty easily make most of that back if not even make a profit.

I doubt Kompany ever had any real plan to make him an important part of the team, he was basically a free backup option for a year (apart from his wages).

Yeah I don't think we'll do that badly out of this one really.

Also not been mentioned but Obefami also had links with Tella which I always thought was an additional factor that made us sign him.

[NewClaret]

We signed foster for 8m and then had barnes and jay rod, don’t really know what we saw in obafemi that made them think he would make an impact in the premier league especially the style we play

Just my view, but I think in January he was preparing for two scenarios as best we could - promotion and staying in the division and I think he saw Obafemi as a good option for this year had we not gone up, given Barnes and Dervisoglu were not going to be here.

The Tella relationship may also have played its part?

I think he could be a Prem player but needs to stay injury free which seem to plague him.

You could make similar arguments for Ageyi (may have misspelt), CJ, etc. I think our strategy is to buy young talent and shepherd its development, potentially with the use of loans sometimes and not every signing will be about the first team in the immediate timeframe. Not everyone will like it but I’m all for it if it means we protect against relegation.

[NewClaret]

If confirmed, I'd expect muric to be staying put

We’d be crazy to let him go.

Cannot believe the Vigeroux loan rumours, surely needed here in case we get a keeper injury and also could get a Champ/League One gig somewhere?

[alwaysaclaret]

We’d be crazy to let him go.

Cannot believe the Vigeroux loan rumours, surely needed here in case we get a keeper injury and also could get a Champ/League One gig somewhere?

I quite agree, and if it was up to me muric would be no1, but I'll leave that one there, been enough thread's about that, not got us anywhere so doubt it will now. But also agree about Vigoroux, it would simply mean we'd need to bring another one in, and can't see many better willing to be a no3.

[Penwortham_Claret]

[123EasyasBFC]

Just my view, but I think in January he was preparing for two scenarios as best we could - promotion and staying in the division and I think he saw Obafemi as a good option for this year had we not gone up, given Barnes and Dervisoglu were not going to be here.

The Tella relationship may also have played its part?

I think he could be a Prem player but needs to stay injury free which seem to plague him.

You could make similar arguments for Ageyi (may have misspelt), CJ, etc. I think our strategy is to buy young talent and shepherd its development, potentially with the use of loans sometimes and not every signing will be about the first team in the immediate timeframe. Not everyone will like it but I’m all for it if it means we protect against relegation.

I don’t for one minute think there was any thought in tie club signing obafemi because he’s mates with Tella

[NewClaret]

I don’t for one minute think there was any thought in tie club signing obafemi because he’s mates with Tella

Not suggesting at all they signed him because they were mates, more that it may have helped us sign him.

[123EasyasBFC]

Reports in a French paper that Montpellier don’t want to sell esteve so it’s probs another non story from Romano, shock