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Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:48 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Loans between clubs with the same owner are set to be banned it would seem
There could also be restrictions on future transfers too

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... nuary.html

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:52 pm
by jrgbfc
Makes sense, would absolutely stink if Newcastle started loaning players from the Saudi clubs like which is being rumoured with Neves.

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:45 am
by claretburns
The absolute correct decision, will stop owners such as Newcastle buying players at other clubs without FFP rules then loaning/selling to their main clubs on the cheap.

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:39 am
by Suratclaret
Weren’t Watford into this in quite a big way?

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:41 am
by Westleigh
Isn’t our intention of buying another club being done for that reason?

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:02 am
by claretonthecoast1882
1st January 2024

Newcastle United are delighted to announce the signing or Reuben Neves for £3.50 on a 6 month contract

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:14 am
by daveisaclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:02 am
1st January 2024

Newcastle United are delighted to announce the signing or Reuben Neves for £3.50 on a 6 month contract
Banning loans and forcing this scenario still makes his 300k a week wage Newcastle's to account for with FFP.

However there are enough PL clubs doing the multiclub ownership model (and as alluded to we aspire to it) that this probably wouldn't pass anyway.

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:26 am
by claptrappers_union
They’ll find loopholes around it

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:41 am
by aggi
daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:14 am
Banning loans and forcing this scenario still makes his 300k a week wage Newcastle's to account for with FFP.

However there are enough PL clubs doing the multiclub ownership model (and as alluded to we aspire to it) that this probably wouldn't pass anyway.
Ruben Neves receives a £46.8m loyalty bonus from Al-Hilal before transferring to Newcastle to play for free for the love of the game.

Although there are lots with the multi-club model I think in the vast majority the loans are going the other way which won't be impacted by this rule.

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:32 am
by claretburns
Westleigh wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:41 am
Isn’t our intention of buying another club being done for that reason?
I think our intention is more around the youth element, we have been looking for clubs in Belgium so trying to find young players in that area and using a feeder club to send our young players to them on loan for experience.

I don't think our intention had any FFP connotations unless in a minor way with some young players getting off our wages for a season or two. Other clubs such as Newcastle could be using these feeder clubs to avoid millions and millions in FFP overspending.

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:46 am
by ClaretTony
Suratclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:39 am
Weren’t Watford into this in quite a big way?
Still are but nothing like as bad as when the Pozzo family first bought them but only because of a rule change that stopped them.

Multi club ownership should never have been allowed.

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:48 am
by DocSavage
Westleigh wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:41 am
Isn’t our intention of buying another club being done for that reason?
I thought the same, with the Belgian club

Re: Ban on loans between same owner clubs

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:32 pm
by claretburns
claretburns wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:32 am
I think our intention is more around the youth element, we have been looking for clubs in Belgium so trying to find young players in that area and using a feeder club to send our young players to them on loan for experience.

I don't think our intention had any FFP connotations unless in a minor way with some young players getting off our wages for a season or two. Other clubs such as Newcastle could be using these feeder clubs to avoid millions and millions in FFP overspending.
Adding to my earlier point as well, in future if we go move afield with our signings such as Asia, South America, North America etc due to the permit changes after Brexit it might be handy having a club in the EU where young players can play for a couple of years to get enough criteria passed for their work permits before moving to us.