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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:40 pm

Looks like there’s a chance Bowen is fit tomorrow as well

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Nov 24, 2023 2:25 pm

I think we win if we go

Trafford
Roberts Beyer ekdal Taylor
Brownhill Berge
Benson JBG Koleosho
Amdouni

And play fast attacking football. As bad as we’ve been this season, we’ve never had so much attacking talent.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by dougcollins » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:22 pm

DocSavage wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:27 pm
TRAFFORD

VITINHO EKDAL BEYER TAYLOR

BROWNHILL CULLEN

BERGE

BENSON KOLEOSHO

OBAFEMI
WHAT'S UP DOC?

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by dougcollins » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:40 pm
Looks like there’s a chance Bowen is fit tomorrow as well
There's a surprise. Pretty much what we all thought.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:51 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:51 pm
I'm pretty sure it was said around the Arsenal game that Cork was injured.

I say "injured", the truth is that his dad has got The Crazy Gang back together to take VK out.
The phrasing Kompany used in yesterday's press conference was very strange - Cork is out "due to something that happened in training" a few weeks ago - the word injury was never used

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Petersa » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:00 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:51 pm
The phrasing Kompany used in yesterday's press conference was very strange - Cork is out "due to something that happened in training" a few weeks ago - the word injury was never used
Something like "Showed leadership and resonsibility, got in the right positions, organised those around him and played well" ...scandalous, shouldn't be anywhere near the first team squad
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:11 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:51 pm
The phrasing Kompany used in yesterday's press conference was very strange - Cork is out "due to something that happened in training" a few weeks ago - the word injury was never used
Jack seems to speak his mind and isn’t afraid to let the manager know when things are going wrong. Looks like exactly the same thing got him banished from Dyche’s team who went down. Good captaincy I would have thought. No point being a lemming and following the rest over the cliff to satisfy the manager’s ego.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:19 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:51 pm
The phrasing Kompany used in yesterday's press conference was very strange - Cork is out "due to something that happened in training" a few weeks ago - the word injury was never used
This is interesting...
Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:11 pm
Jack seems to speak his mind and isn’t afraid to let the manager know when things are going wrong. Looks like exactly the same thing got him banished from Dyche’s team who went down. Good captaincy I would have thought. No point being a lemming and following the rest over the cliff to satisfy the manager’s ego.
I think you could be right here.

I have wondered how VK deals with some of the mavericks of the squad.

Clearly fell out with Muric after he went on a bender... hmmmm

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:34 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:19 pm
This is interesting...



I think you could be right here.

I have wondered how VK deals with some of the mavericks of the squad.

Clearly fell out with Muric after he went on a bender... hmmmm
Also who could blame him, apart from Berge no one in midfield is pulling up any trees. I think I would be furious I wasn’t playing if I was him.

Give the guy a game along with Muric once he’s well, what’s the worst that could happen, we actually win a game?!
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by daveisaclaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:51 pm

I see we're now at the "making up Jack Cork taking a heroic stand against the manager's mistakes" stage of the international break.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Holtyclaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:54 pm

Corks been injured for a few weeks.

A few Agatha Christie wannabes putting too much thought into things ….. (again)

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Petersa » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:02 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:51 pm
I see we're now at the "making up Jack Cork taking a heroic stand against the manager's mistakes" stage of the international break.
We are very close to saying "somebody has to" how much worse can things get? Burnley do not have the worst squad of players in the bottom 4 why are they bottom of the league?
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:11 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:51 pm
I see we're now at the "making up Jack Cork taking a heroic stand against the manager's mistakes" stage of the international break.
Probably told VK “ boss you’ve bought a load of shite and I should be playing”. Not that far fetched is it?

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:15 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:51 pm
I see we're now at the "making up Jack Cork taking a heroic stand against the manager's mistakes" stage of the international break.
It's the same old posters though...

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Enola Gay » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:46 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:51 pm
I see we're now at the "making up Jack Cork taking a heroic stand against the manager's mistakes" stage of the international break.
If William of Occam had been a Burnley fan he'd have had a beard down to his arse.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:58 pm

If just 2 from Ekdal /Roberts/Muric/Benson to start would be a nod in the right direction .

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:22 pm

I am just hoping he gives Trafford a rest. We cannot afford to throw any more points away from basic errors.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Holtyclaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:25 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:22 pm
I am just hoping he gives Trafford a rest. We cannot afford to throw any more points away from basic errors.
😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:26 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:11 pm
Probably told VK “ boss you’ve bought a load of shite and I should be playing”. Not that far fetched is it?
I’d say that’s fairly far-fetched, yes.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:28 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:22 pm
I am just hoping he gives Trafford a rest. We cannot afford to throw any more points away from basic errors.
And play who?

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:30 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:25 pm
😂😂😂😂😂
Why the crying pal? Is that at my post or can you not take any more? Explain yourself please.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:44 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:30 pm
Why the crying pal? Is that at my post or can you not take any more? Explain yourself please.
He probably realises, unlike you, that we wouldn't have a goalkeeper if we did what you suggest

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:44 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:28 pm
And play who?
We have got another two goalkeepers in the squad.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:45 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:44 pm
He probably realises, unlike you, that we wouldn't have a goalkeeper if we did what you suggest
The keeper from Orient. Is he not available?

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:50 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:45 pm
The keeper from Orient. Is he not available?
I know we’re desperate but Peter Wells has been retired for quite a while…

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:52 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:44 pm
We have got another two goalkeepers in the squad.
VK would rather commit hari kari than drop his golden boy. He’s got to prove himself right don’t forget!

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:54 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:45 pm
The keeper from Orient. Is he not available?
Might as well give him a try someone thought he was good when he was bought, give him a go might be another Nick Pope.

Then again he might have already committed to giving his neighbour a lift to skipton so is unavailable 😂.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:04 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:50 pm
I know we’re desperate but Peter Wells has been retired for quite a while…
You obviously missed the news when we signed Vigouroux then?

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Nori1958 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:06 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:45 pm
The keeper from Orient. Is he not available?
So we replace an ex league 1 player, which people reckon is a step to far, with another ex league 1 player?
You couldn’t make it up :lol:

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:08 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:04 pm
You obviously missed the news when we signed Vigouroux then?
/Whoosh

Bloke was the Goalkeeper for Leyton Orient in the late '80s...

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:18 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:06 pm
So we replace an ex league 1 player, which people reckon is a step to far, with another ex league 1 player?
You couldn’t make it up :lol:
What’s so funny to warrant a LOL? Why did Vincent sign him then? If you remember, Dyche signed Pope from Charlton and when the call came he answered it.
This is a pointless discussion anyway because Vincent will start Trafford tomorrow and more than likely he will fail to deal with routine stuff and we will throw another three points away and we will be one step closer to relegation. Not a problem for me though, I love the Championship. Best division in English football.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:26 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:18 pm
What’s so funny to warrant a LOL? Why did Vincent sign him then? If you remember, Dyche signed Pope from Charlton and when the call came he answered it.
This is a pointless discussion anyway because Vincent will start Trafford tomorrow and more than likely he will fail to deal with routine stuff and we will throw another three points away and we will be one step closer to relegation. Not a problem for me though, I love the Championship. Best division in English football.
The highest level he has ever played is league 2.

He’s been brought in purely as a reserve keeper to help bring the u23s through. Don’t be surprised if he never ever gets a minute of game time.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:27 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 8:52 pm
VK would rather commit hari kari than drop his golden boy. He’s got to prove himself right don’t forget!
I know he would. Was it 18 million for a lad who through no fault of his own is clearly not ready. I’m not a massive Muric fan either but from a Man City point of view these two at circa 25 million have contributed to them staying within FFP rules.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:26 pm
The highest level he has ever played is league 2.

He’s been brought in purely as a reserve keeper to help bring the u23s through. Don’t be surprised if he never ever gets a minute of game time.
I won’t be surprised. Not at all. Vincent isn’t going to drop Trafford so this discussion is immaterial.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:39 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:08 pm
/Whoosh

Bloke was the Goalkeeper for Leyton Orient in the late '80s...
Oh, right. Did you have to Google that?

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:42 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:39 pm
Oh, right. Did you have to Google that?
Of course. It was just a **** attempt at a daft joke

Lighten up.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:49 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:26 pm
The highest level he has ever played is league 2.

He’s been brought in purely as a reserve keeper to help bring the u23s through. Don’t be surprised if he never ever gets a minute of game time.
I don't think he has much to do with the now defunct U23s, or the present U21s.
He's 3rd choice and would most likely be on the bench if Trafford or Muric were out.

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by willsclarets » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:51 pm

Trafford
Vitinho
Al Dahkil
Beyer
Taylor
Brownhil
Berge
Tresor
Ramsay
Koleosho
Amdouni

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by Jamesy » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:59 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:42 pm
Of course. It was just a **** attempt at a daft joke

Lighten up.
I’m quite relaxed pal. Been out after work drinking a few pints of superb craft beers from Glasshouse, Verdant and Cloudwater. Bit of a faff getting up to Burnley tomorrow as rail replacement is rearing its ugly head yet again. Long day awaits. Let’s just hope we put on a good display and don’t gift any cheap goals to the happy hammers.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:01 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:59 pm
I’m quite relaxed pal. Been out after work drinking a few pints of superb craft beers from Glasshouse, Verdant and Cloudwater. Bit of a faff getting up to Burnley tomorrow as rail replacement is rearing its ugly head yet again. Long day awaits. Let’s just hope we put on a good display and don’t gift any cheap goals to the happy hammers.
Here's hoping,

UTC.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by claretspice » Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:44 am

Trafford
Roberts
Taylor
Ekdal
Beyer
Berge
Brownhill
Gudmundsson
Koleosho
Rodriguez
Redmond

We need a focal point to our attack, which Jay did fine against Palace, and we need his presence defending set plays. Redmond plays as the second striker because frankly Amdouni hasn't shown enough starting games recently. He's still got loads to do to adapt to English Premier League football and he can do that from the bench. Great impact option

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Re: Burnley vs West Ham - Starting XI

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:50 am

claretspice wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 11:44 am
Trafford
Roberts
Taylor
Ekdal
Beyer
Berge
Brownhill
Gudmundsson
Koleosho
Rodriguez
Redmond

We need a focal point to our attack, which Jay did fine against Palace, and we need his presence defending set plays. Redmond plays as the second striker because frankly Amdouni hasn't shown enough starting games recently. He's still got loads to do to adapt to English Premier League football and he can do that from the bench. Great impact option

That's decent, though I'd have Vitinho for Roberts.

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