Unfortunately, I do not have enough information or modeling capabilities to definitively predict whether Burnley will be relegated from the Premier League this season. However, some insights I can provide:

- Burnley are currently sitting in the relegation zone in 19th place after 15 matches played in the 2022/2023 Premier League season. This puts them in significant danger of relegation.

- As a recently promoted club, Burnley is facing an uphill battle to avoid the drop. Newly promoted sides often struggle to assemble Premier League-quality squads quickly enough.

- However, Burnley has shown relegation fighting spirit before, having avoided the drop in recent previous Premier League seasons. So write-off would be premature.

- With over half the season still to play, Burnley's fate is still largely in their own hands. Additional January player signings and improved form in the second half of the season could boost their survival hopes.

- Key factors to monitor will be Burnley's ability to tighten up at the back, improvement in chance conversion up front, and continued ability to grind out points, especially at home at Turf Moor.

So in summary - Burnley is in a worrying position, but still has time and opportunity to assemble Premier League survival form. I cannot definitively predict the outcome either way with the information available to me currently. Their survival battle promises to make for an intense second half of the season.

We are a different animal to the side last in the PL (though the qualities of that team were on a downward spiral the season we went down). The current team played on the front foot in the Championship last season and shocked the footballing world with their style of play. Goals came from everywhere and 101 points speak for itself. We were also the lowest conceeders of goals in the Division.

I fully expected us to be bottom or near to after the first four or five games, but expected some results and points in the next six or seven.This has not happened, and we made numerous individual errors in defence and midfield that have invariably led to goals. Its now hard envisaging who we could beat. I feel its become a four horse challenge staying up, but I see Everton despite their points deduction, rallying round and getting the points they need, starting with Man Utd this weekend

I now accept we will likely get relegated as the PL has come a year or so too early. That's unless we can cut out the individual errors with immediate effect, get our act together at defending set pieces and corners, and take our chances. Unless Foster is able to be fit again soon, I dont know where our goals will come from, to exceed the goals we are coneding at will

We are a different animal to the side last in the PL (though the qualities of that team were on a downward spiral the season we went down). The current team played on the front foot in the Championship last season and shocked the footballing world with their style of play. Goals came from everywhere and 101 points speak for itself. We were also the lowest conceeders of goals in the Division.

I fully expected us to be bottom or near to after the first four or five games, but expected some results and points in the next six or seven.This has not happened, and we made numerous individual errors in defence and midfield that have invariably led to goals. Its now hard envisaging who we could beat. I feel its become a four horse challenge staying up, but I see Everton despite their points deduction, rallying round and getting the points they need, starting with Man Utd this weekend

I now accept we will likely get relegated as the PL has come a year or so too early. That's unless we can cut out the individual errors with immediate effect, get our act together at defending set pieces and corners, and take our chances. Unless Foster is able to be fit again soon, I dont know where our goals will come from, to exceed the goals we are conceding at will

Are we not 20th?

brexit wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:17 pm

Unfortunately, I do not have enough information or modeling capabilities to definitively predict whether Burnley will be relegated from the Premier League this season. However, some insights I can provide:

- Burnley are currently sitting in the relegation zone in 19th place after 15 matches played in the 2022/2023 Premier League season. This puts them in significant danger of relegation.
second half of the season.

I have read that about 5 times and I’m still baffled.


We are 20th

We have played 12 matches

Is is the 23/24 season.

Hi Chat GPT

BOT

Probably

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:53 pm

Hi Chat GPT

Testing claude.ai but near enough

Sounds like some **** journalist that basically states the obvious

Don’t read the Kevin Nolan post if you want to remain positive.

brexit wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:27 pm

Testing claude.ai but near enough

You would be better consulting Claude Greengrass

I was playing around with one of the Big 4 consultants’ new AI tool the other day and it was absolutely useless

If we dont win any by xmas yes

Computer says "yes"

Ask again after the transfer window

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:24 pm

I was playing around with one of the Big 4 consultants’ new AI tool the other day and it was absolutely useless

I was playing around with my big boy the other day and that is absolutely useless now as well.

expoultryboy wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:33 pm

Ask again after the transfer window

Best we don't chuck more at it imo

Yes, we are down already.

Statistically speaking, only 1 team has survived the threat of relegation, after being on 4 points after 12 games in the Premier league era.

I was looking for positives and stumbled upon this stat.

We are treading on thin ice, but I still believe.

- Key factors to monitor will be Burnley's ability to tighten up at the back, improvement in chance conversion up front, and continued ability to grind out points, especially at home at Turf Moor.
Interestingly, the original data source for this statement is skysports and the guardian. Notably, the bot did not trawl UptheClarets

If we keep playing Trafford in goal.....without a doubt!

being optimistic, and sensing an improvement despite the string of defeats, I reckon if we beat west ham then the signs are right that we can have a good run through december as well and stick some points on the board.
If we do, then its a platform to strengthen and ultimately survive. Albeit it by the skin of our teeth.

Nailed on

Looking at where we are now it's a definite yes but a win or two and get some players in January with experience you never know.

Should it be When will Burnley be relegated ? If we are going to be really pessimistic.
Strengthen the spine and we have a chance.

A great question deserves a great answer
Yes if we finish in the bottom 3
No if we don't finish in the bottom 3

The Super Computer has us finishing rock bottom

I would say the odds are heavily against us to avoid the drop at this stage. Win 2 of the next 3 and things would look a lot better!

I'm clinging on to the hope that we seemed to have had a ridiculously unbalanced start to the season in terms of facing the bigger clubs in the first 12 games.

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:55 am

I'm clinging on to the hope that we seemed to have had a ridiculously unbalanced start to the season in terms of facing the bigger clubs in the first 12 games.

And maybe another reason for the ridiculously unbalanced start is the ridiculously unbalanced squad that we put together this summer for circa £100m
Just a thought

Current odds on oddschecker. com
Sheff U 1/5
Luton 1/4
Burnley 2/3
Everton 5/2

It's not looking good but if there's any sort of positive to be sought there's plenty of time & plenty of points up for grabs.

FCBurnley wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:47 am

Current odds on oddschecker. com
Sheff U 1/5
Luton 1/4
Burnley 2/3
Everton 5/2

Is that true?

The bookies are more optimistic than most on here.

The Bookies are looking at the record which is bad enough. They aren’t sitting through 90 minutes of ineffective football every week where we dont remotely look like winning. This why they are probably more optimistic.

Yes and unfortunately the stats pretty much back that up historically for a top flight team to only have 4 points at this stage of a season

In the bottom 3 at Christmas and relegated (before 2020):

51 of 88 (57.9%)

In the bottom 3 at Christmas and survive (before 2020):

37 of 88 (42.1%)

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forgot sheff utd at 2 points @ xmas in 2020

15th on Xmas day with 18 points

brexit wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:27 pm

15th on Xmas day with 18 points

I'll have a pint of whatever you've been drinking

jojomk1 wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:55 pm

I'll have a pint of whatever you've been drinking

I think he's been using the Chatbot again

It’s all part of the big plan …. Apparently

Very likely. But I’m more concerned by the performances and lack of improvement/learning than I am about the league position at the minute. A reasonable run of fixtures coming up before Christmas which I think will either keep us in with a shout or condemn us.

If we get relegated then we'll have an evening better squad than the last season in the championship. Something I'll look forward to if that happens...not to mention the 6 points from wins over you know who.

No..!...er...wait....YES..!...hum.. maybe.

Statistics may not always tell the full story but they can be brutal. We're averaging 0.3 points per game, in order to get to 37 we need to be on 1.2 points a game from now on.

I understand the 'we will improve / need a good transfer deadline' arguments, the issue is that by that point we may have too much to do even if the team started to perform. Also at that point teams will know we havev to win do their likely default tactic will be to hit us on the break.

The crying shame of it all is that we have had so many potential gimmes this year, from Everton's deduction to playing teams such as Brentford and Utd at a time when they were awful. Today we have a West Ham side ravaged with injuries and though I hope we get all 3 points I fear it'll be 80% possession and a defeat or draw.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 24, 2023 4:59 pm

I think he's been using the Chatbot again

Today has just proved that ARIMA algorithms run on LUMI can still be wrong.