• May aswell stick an R there now

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:07 pm**

You may aswell stick an R there now if you're going to beat yourself every week.

How many times this season have we gifted sides goals and points when in reality they've not deserved them?

Teams are creating nothing yet finding hoals and wins extreamely easy to come by.
A soft team, snd Turf Moor has become a very easy place to come and get results

P1ss poor in have management... AGAIN

Not a call for hid head in the slightest, but VK, his staff and this team are a soft touch and alarmingly way out of its depth.

Roll on August 2024

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:14 pm**

The whole match day experience is depressing right now. Right from walking down to the ground, which now resembles an obstacle course, to the crap we have to endure on the pitch and now we have the "how to throw three points away" for good measure.

Kompany can go for me.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:20 pm**

It’s a minor miracle that we’re not more cut adrift than we currently are.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:22 pm**

Lost interest in the prem already
Give it a go and let us go again next season

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:24 pm**

It’s just shite, we don’t even come off games saying “got lucky there” “snatch & grab” we must be the easiest team in the league to play, like a year 7 side, play good football but you always know you’ll beat them, I’m fuming tonight.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:38 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:14 pm
The whole match day experience is depressing right now. Right from walking down to the ground, which now resembles an obstacle course, to the crap we have to endure on the pitch and now we have the "how to throw three points away" for good measure.

Kompany can go for me.

replacing him with who ?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:40 pm**

Call me crazy (I'm not suggesting this as someone I'd want btw) but I wouldn't be suprised if our owners have an eye on Pat Noonan

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:55 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:38 pm
replacing him with who ?

Easily said the same 2 years ago when we potted Dyche and almost stayed up, then went up far more convincingly than we ever did with him.

VK isn’t the only football manager in the world. There’s thousands to choose from.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:57 pm**

Dyched wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:55 pm

Easily said the same 2 years ago when we potted Dyche and almost stayed up, then went up far more convincingly than we ever did with him.

VK isn’t the only football manager in the world. There’s thousands to choose from.

ok, name them

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:07 pm**

My take is that we have seen the naivety of a young manager. Changed the entire 11 after a brilliant season with the view he can do the same as he has the previous season. One thing for sure is it will be a lesson learned and he will not do it again. I think if we go down and somehow manage to keep gold of bk and the majority of this squad we will be promoted again and come up having learnt our lesson.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:10 pm**

Graham Potter maybe ?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:12 pm**

expoultryboy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:10 pm
Graham Potter maybe ?

No chance. Potter be looking at more of a West Ham type.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:13 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:40 pm
Call me crazy (I'm not suggesting this as someone I'd want btw) but I wouldn't be suprised if our owners have an eye on Pat Noonan

Let’s hope they’re not that daft.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:16 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:38 pm
replacing him with who ?

That's not for me to decide.

If it was Neil Warnock though (not that I think it should be), could he actually do a worse job?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:17 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:16 pm
That's not for me to decide.

If it was Neil Warnock though (not that I think it should be), could he actually do a worse job?

Yes.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:18 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:17 pm
Yes.

Seven home defeats in a row?

Really?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:20 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:16 pm
That's not for me to decide.

If it was Neil Warnock though (not that I think it should be), could he actually do a worse job?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:21 pm**

I for one was disgusted at how Brian laws was treated during his short time as manager after taking over mid season in the premier league, but yet can't fathom why everyone is so tolerant of VK for his shambolic attempt of premier league manager, baffling.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:23 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:20 pm

I said, could he actually do a worse job... than what we've been served up this season?

It's easy to mock from the Nevada desert though, I guess

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:24 pm**

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:21 pm
I for one was disgusted at how Brian laws was treated during his short time as manager after taking over mid season in the premier league, but yet can't fathom why everyone is so tolerant of VK for his shambolic attempt of premier league manager, baffling.

just delivered the best season we've ever had in the Championship culminating in winning the title on your biggest rivals pitch. You have to be a full blown **** to turn on him after a few months

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:25 pm**

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:21 pm
I for one was disgusted at how Brian laws was treated during his short time as manager after taking over mid season in the premier league, but yet can't fathom why everyone is so tolerant of VK for his shambolic attempt of premier league manager, baffling.

Laws had a better record after 13 games too.

People wanted him out long before that though, despite not blowing 100 million in the process.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:25 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:23 pm
I said, could he actually do a worse job... than what we've been served up this season?

It's easy to mock from the Nevada desert though, I guess

come up with a sensible option and there will be no need to mock. I've genuinely not seen a single sensible option for an alternative from anyone.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:25 pm
come up with a sensible option and there will be no need to mock. I've genuinely not seen a single sensible option for an alternative from anyone.

Okay. How about Graeme Potter? Not that I think he'd come, but the point was that whoever it is couldn't do as bad a job as what currently being subjected to.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:33 pm**

Pls dont change the manager go down n come back stronger

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:33 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:24 pm
just delivered the best season we've ever had in the Championship culminating in winning the title on your biggest rivals pitch. You have to be a full blown **** to turn on him after a few months

Forget before, even I thought we would be easily mid table after last season, but that counts for sod all , this season is shambolic even for the hardest of claret fans , stop making excuses please

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:35 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm
Okay. How about Graeme Potter? Not that I think he'd come, but the point was that whoever it is couldn't do as bad a job as what currently being subjected to.

that's the problem, zero chance you get him. So it's all good and well saying sack VK but there needs to be a viable alternative and so far nobody has mentioned one. Easy for me to say from the other side of the world (unless it's a 12:30 kick off because getting up at 4:30am to watch us get smashed isn't fun) but I back VK 100% after last season, he's just making loads of mistakes at the moment.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:36 pm**

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:33 pm
Forget before, even I thought we would be easily mid table after last season, but that counts for sod all , this season is shambolic even for the hardest of claret fans , stop making excuses please

No, i'm not a ****

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:35 pm
he's just making loads of mistakes at the moment.

And the award for understatement of the year goes to... Mr. Viva!

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm
Okay. How about Graeme Potter? Not that I think he'd come, but the point was that whoever it is couldn't do as bad a job as what currently being subjected to.

Live in Brighton and as such I'm aware of what Potter is all about. In short he is a manager who you need patience with, it takes a few season for his style of play to become embedded and he needs specific player types. This what made the Chelsea move so bizarre as they were and are about the immediate, not as much the long term. He'd do well at a mid table Prem team who are safe and don't mind very up and down patches of form. Probably not the type for our situation.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:38 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:36 pm
No, i'm not a ****

?????

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:39 pm**

scamander wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm
Live in Brighton and as such I'm aware of what Potter is all about. In short he is a manager who you need patience with, it takes a few season for his style of play to become embedded and he needs specific player types. This what made the Chelsea move so bizarre as they were and are about the immediate, not as much the long term. He'd do well at a mid table Prem team who are safe and don't mind very up and down patches of form. Probably not the type for our situation.

Are we likely to lose seven home games in a row though?

I wouldn't have thought so.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:40 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:57 pm
ok, name them

Jesse marsch

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:40 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm
And the award for understatement of the year goes to... Mr. Viva!

I'm not wrong though

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:41 pm**

brexit wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:40 pm
Jesse marsch

I said serious

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:42 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:40 pm
I'm not wrong though

No, you're not wrong. He's getting a lot badly wrong too.

I just don't think you realise how much he's getting wrong.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:45 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:42 pm
No, you're not wrong. He's getting a lot badly wrong too.

I just don't think you realise how much he's getting wrong.

How do you work that out ? It's very clear what he's getting run and 90% of it revolves around his poor substitutions. On another note, today was the first time we saw patterns of play we saw last season actually being effective in letting us beat the press. There are off the field situations that clearly aren't helping our situation and we can 100% point the finger at the transfer window stupidity. What did I miss ?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:46 pm**

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:21 pm
I for one was disgusted at how Brian laws was treated during his short time as manager after taking over mid season in the premier league, but yet can't fathom why everyone is so tolerant of VK for his shambolic attempt of premier league manager, baffling.

Perhaps because of last season.?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:47 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:41 pm
I said serious

Name mentioned in hospitality again today VK is no longer a fit. Investors are getting nervous.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:47 pm**

MACCA wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:07 pm
You may aswell stick an R there now if you're going to beat yourself every week.

How many times this season have we gifted sides goals and points when in reality they've not deserved them?

Teams are creating nothing yet finding hoals and wins extreamely easy to come by.
A soft team, snd Turf Moor has become a very easy place to come and get results

P1ss poor in have management... AGAIN

Not a call for hid head in the slightest, but VK, his staff and this team are a soft touch and alarmingly way out of its depth.

Roll on August 2024

It would take more than sticking an R there to sort your spelling out.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:48 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:45 pm
How do you work that out ? It's very clear what he's getting run and 90% of it revolves around his poor substitutions. On another note, today was the first time we saw patterns of play we saw last season actually being effective in letting us beat the press. There are off the field situations that clearly aren't helping our situation and we can 100% point the finger at the transfer window stupidity. What did I miss ?

Is that not enough to warrant a sacking?

I can't think of another club where that wouldn't be the case.

It must be a different view on your firestick

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pm**

brexit wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:47 pm
Name mentioned in hospitality again today VK is no longer a fit. Investors are getting nervous.

So let's get this straight, people who have invested (insert amount) of money into the club are openly chatting in the hospitality area of the club that they are nervous and Jesse M is an option

Does it sound any more ridiculous to you when someone else writes it ?

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:52 pm**

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:21 pm
I for one was disgusted at how Brian laws was treated during his short time as manager after taking over mid season in the premier league, but yet can't fathom why everyone is so tolerant of VK for his shambolic attempt of premier league manager, baffling.

It’s how media/pr/opinion pieces shape people’s minds like.

Last two games we have lined up in a 4-4-2 and looked as good the best that we have all year - VK does it and he’s a visionary, Dyche does it and he’s a dinosaur.

The same phenomenon can be applied to politicians etc

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:53 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:48 pm
Is that not enough to warrant a sacking?

I can't think of another club where that wouldn't be the case.

It must be a different view on your firestick

Firestick, cheeky ****

You crack on calling for his head mate

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:54 pm**

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:46 pm
Perhaps because of last season.?

Really? Yes a fantastic season but this?? a massive spend and you are happy? Baffling

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:55 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:39 pm
Are we likely to lose seven home games in a row though?

I wouldn't have thought so.

He had some very bad patches when managing Brighton including going 3 months without a win and a separate 3 month period of not scoring. He also had a 6 game losing streak at one point. Not seven defeats at home but possibly not the manager who could keep us up either.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:57 pm**

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:54 pm
Really? Yes a fantastic season but this?? a massive spend and you are happy? Baffling

Where did I say I was happy?

It was an answer to why Kompany is getting more time than Laws

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:58 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:53 pm
Firestick, cheeky ****

You crack on calling for his head mate

No one cares what I think, but I say it anyway!

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:00 pm**

scamander wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:55 pm
He had some very bad patches when managing Brighton including going 3 months without a win and a separate 3 month period of not scoring. He also had a 6 game losing streak at one point. Not seven defeats at home but possibly not the manager who could keep us up either.

I'd feel more confident with him in charge.

This prating around at the back and trying to be a poor man's Man. City isn't going to work.

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:02 pm**

brexit wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:40 pm
Jesse marsch

Posted: **Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:04 pm**

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:57 pm
Where did I say I was happy?

It was an answer to why Kompany is getting more time than Laws

So your not happy fair enough

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