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Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:26 pm
by burnley007
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:31 pm
by Jamesy
If it’s not a wind up I would chauffeur him up to the North East for free. Gotta be a wind up though.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:31 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Straight swop
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:31 pm
by randomclaret2
£40 million of your Saudi pounds ought to suffice
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:32 pm
by Florian
Pope back to us great deal
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:33 pm
by CoolClaret
Be nice of us to develop a player for another clubs benefit to the detriment of the on pitch performances.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:34 pm
by bumba
Wish we could swap them right now
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:35 pm
by daveisaclaret
A fine opportunity to reflect on how lucky we are to have fan coverage of the club that is actually good.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:45 pm
by Kilson810
'James Trafford is excellent with the ball at his feet' first I've heard of this.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:45 pm
by Nori1958
For someone who can't play out from the back......oh the irony
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:46 pm
by Nori1958
bumba wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:34 pm
Wish we could swap them right now
Why, because Pope is so good with his feet?
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:01 pm
by Hapag Lloyd
Nori1958 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:46 pm
Why, because Pope is so good with his feet?
No, because Pope is an excellent goalkeeper.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:01 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Well done to anyone who had reply #1 in the "drive home there myself" sweepstake.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:07 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
I’d swap Muric & Trafford for Pope
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:12 pm
by dougcollins
Just some bloke on a blog isn't it?
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:22 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
James’ stats on shot stopping are far worse than Pope, 2 goals conceded worse than is expected goals conceded. Contrast with Kaminski at Luton, top of the league on that stat, 6 goals better than expected. Swap those stats around and we can swap the team league positions too.
Then we get the distribution. OK but not Muric levels nor Allison / Ederson / Raya levels.
But in a 21 year old keeper the growth should be enormous. Our sensible fans (the majority believe it or not) know that he is a good keeper, the problem is playing half a dozen very young players in the same starting lineup with another few slightly older but inexperienced on top of that.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:31 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Non sensible fan here .Trafford is amongst the poorest keepers we've had
He can't collect crosses or command his defence
I would swop him for Nick "Shot stopper "Pope in a heartbeat
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:37 pm
by Nori1958
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:31 pm
Non sensible fan here .Trafford is amongst the poorest keepers we've had
He can't collect crosses or command his defence
I would swop him for Nick "Shot stopper "Pope in a heartbeat
Penny... Hansbury.... Kendall
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:47 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
What a nonsense of a post
Just some clueless Newcastle fan attention seeking
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:52 pm
by IanMcL
Nori1958 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:45 pm
For someone who can't play out from the back......oh the irony
He can play a five yard pass as good as the next!
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:01 pm
by ecc
dougcollins wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:12 pm
Just some bloke on a blog isn't it?
Just some bloke on the bog.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:19 pm
by Winstonswhite
CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:22 pm
James’ stats on shot stopping are far worse than Pope, 2 goals conceded worse than is expected goals conceded. Contrast with Kaminski at Luton, top of the league on that stat, 6 goals better than expected. Swap those stats around and we can swap the team league positions too.
Then we get the distribution. OK but not Muric levels nor Allison / Ederson / Raya levels.
But in a 21 year old keeper the growth should be enormous. Our sensible fans (the majority believe it or not) know that he is a good keeper, the problem is playing half a dozen very young players in the same starting lineup with another few slightly older but inexperienced on top of that.
Surely xG stat in relation to the keeper is only relevant if they save it. Could have xG of 5 and the striker blasts everything wide which is nothing to do with how well the GK plays.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:44 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
Just firing up the car
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:58 pm
by boatshed bill
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:31 pm
Non sensible fan here .Trafford is amongst the poorest keepers we've had
He can't collect crosses or command his defence
I would swop him for Nick "Shot stopper "Pope in a heartbeat
He is absolutely nowhere near the worst keeper we've had.
I could give you 20 off the top of my head far worse than James Trafford.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:00 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:58 pm
He is absolutely nowhere near the worst keeper we've had.
I could give you 20 off the top of my head far worse than James Trafford.
Humour us, only one I can think of is Paul Crichton
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:05 pm
by Nori1958
Woodworth.... Penny..... Kendall
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:06 pm
by boatshed bill
Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:00 pm
Humour us, only one I can think of is Paul Crichton
Oh yes, make that 21
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:06 pm
by CaptJohn
Go on Boatshed. You've got 10 minutes.
I can think of a a few but 20??
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:08 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
To Coyles credit he only played Penny for one game.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:09 pm
by distortiondave
Worse goalkeepers than James Trafford?
Casper
Beresford
Jensen
Kiraly
Coyne
Grant
Marriot
Williams
NtG
Cennamo
BPF
Norris
Cisak
Penny
Pollit
There's 15 without thinking too hard about it.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:12 pm
by CaptJohn
Beast?? You're havin a giraffe!
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:12 pm
by boatshed bill
CaptJohn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:06 pm
Go on Boatshed. You've got 10 minutes.
I can think of a a few but 20??
I don't know how long you've been watching, but how about every single goalkeeper who played in the 3rd and 4th tier for starters?
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:14 pm
by bumba
Nori1958 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:46 pm
Why, because Pope is so good with his feet?
No because Nick Pope is a goalkeeper, he actually saves shots
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:14 pm
by boatshed bill
CaptJohn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:12 pm
Beast?? You're havin a giraffe!
No he isn't.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:15 pm
by CoolClaret
For the Trafford fans who think he's got something -
Can you please tell me a save he's made this year that was more than a standard/routine save?
Something Nick Pope esque where he's pulled out some worldies from point blanc range or a Heaton type against Ibrahimovic - anyone?
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:16 pm
by boatshed bill
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:15 pm
For the Trafford fans who think he's got something -
Can you please tell me a save he's made this year that was more than a standard/routine save?
Something Nick Pope esque where he's pulled out some worldies from point blanc range or a Heaton type against Ibrahimovic - anyone?
I think we would all accept that NP is the better goalkeeper.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:16 pm
by bumba
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:58 pm
He is absolutely nowhere near the worst keeper we've had.
I could give you 20 off the top of my head far worse than James Trafford.
I'm struggling to think of many in the past 20 years that wouldnt get in ahead of him
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:16 pm
by CaptJohn
Since around 1964, brought up on Blacklaw and Thomson. I had a chuckle to myself when I saw the Gooners score that header from about 2 yds out. Blacklaw would have taken his head off.
Go on the tick is clocking!
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:17 pm
by CoolClaret
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:16 pm
I think we would all accept that NP is the better goalkeeper.
I'm not even asking that Bill, I'm just trying to figure out what makes him our number 1.
I've tried to see it but I don't think he deserves to be anywhere near starting.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:18 pm
by boatshed bill
CaptJohn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:16 pm
Since around 1964, brought up on Blacklaw and Thomson. I had a chuckle to myself when I saw the Gooners score that header from about 2 yds out. Blacklaw would have taken his head off.
Go on the tick is clocking!
I can't be bothered as I'm having my dinner. But just look at DD's list for starters.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:18 pm
by distortiondave
CaptJohn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:12 pm
Beast?? You're havin a giraffe!
I'll show my arse in burtons window if Trafford doesn't play more than 100 more top flight games more than Brian Jensen did.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:19 pm
by CaptJohn
I think that's a safe bet, they've gone out of business.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:21 pm
by boatshed bill
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:17 pm
I'm not even asking that Bill, I'm just trying to figure out what makes him our number 1.
I've tried to see it but I don't think he deserves to be anywhere near starting.
Yes, I wonder about that myself.
A while back I posted an opinion that, assuming he would be omitted from the starting 11, we should have sold or loaned Muric and signed an experienced (PL level) keeper.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:21 pm
by CaptJohn
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:18 pm
I can't be bothered as I'm having my dinner. But just look at DD's list for starters.
Enjoy your tea
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:23 pm
by Shaggy
I’d be massively delighted if we even just got our money back.
No where near ready for premier league football. Don’t see all this alleged potential either, all I see is a young inexperienced keeper with no presence or confidence.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:29 pm
by elwaclaret
Anyone suggesting our current keeper is the worst we’ve had is demonstrating not insight but ignorance. Not even close, and that includes previous keepers at their prime… not when they turned out for us.
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:31 pm
by Anthonini
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:15 pm
For the Trafford fans who think he's got something -
Can you please tell me a save he's made this year that was more than a standard/routine save?
Something Nick Pope esque where he's pulled out some worldies from point blanc range or a Heaton type against Ibrahimovic - anyone?
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:32 pm
by CoolClaret
Want to the answer the valid question Mr. Conspiracynut?
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:42 pm
by Bowclaret
The lads confidence must be on the floor. Just hope he never comes on here and reads this tripe.
Again, he will play for England and be the best keeper we have had - AGAIN, some fans can see it and some clearly can not !
Just a thought - support the lad ! Worth a try yeah ?
Re: Trafford already lined up to replace Pope
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:48 pm
by Rileybobs
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:15 pm
For the Trafford fans who think he's got something -
Can you please tell me a save he's made this year that was more than a standard/routine save?
Something Nick Pope esque where he's pulled out some worldies from point blanc range or a Heaton type against Ibrahimovic - anyone?
He made a top save against Arsenal to deny Saka.
