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Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:17 pm
by FCBurnley
They just commented on Sky that there are 3 grounds in the PL where Managers etc have to cross the pitch to get to the dug outs. They are Fulham Luton and of course Burnley. This made me wonder why ours are still in front of Bob Lord Stand. Surely there is more room in front of JH stand which would make sense as long as the CF stand is being used for to house the dressing rooms. If you sit in the JH would you prefer that change or leave it as it is ?
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:20 pm
by Whitgord
View would be blocked at front of Longside. Bob Lord stand is much higher at its front edge.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:20 pm
by pureclaret
thats where they used to be and it was always a race to get round to lie on top of the home concreate dug outs sometime allowed to stay other times forced off
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:21 pm
by Loyalclaret
Check out the height of the first row on the Bob Lord then imagine having dug outs infront of the JHL.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:21 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
I’d much prefer the TV cameras to be on the Bob Lord side so it shows the James Hargreaves’s on the TV. Would make the ground look a lot better and modern. Unsure if the Bob Lord is too small for this to get a good angle ?
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:24 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Whitgord wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:20 pm
View would be blocked at front of Longside. Bob Lord stand is much higher at its front edge.
Or they’d lose some seats if they built them in the stands like a lot of grounds seem to now.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:53 pm
by claptrappers_union
No reason for them to be on the other side. I like the little quirks of Turf Moor…
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:03 pm
by Rileybobs
Can’t see how it makes any difference whatsoever.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:52 am
by Funkydrummer
If it's a problem just walk around the perimeter of the pitch
yer lazy barstewards.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:23 am
by StayingDown4Ever
Sixteen seconds - before his manager had even got to his seat!
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:13 am
by Boss Hogg
Why should they have to conform ? Turf Moor is different. That’s why it’s good.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:38 am
by Nori1958
ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:21 pm
I’d much prefer the TV cameras to be on the Bob Lord side so it shows the James Hargreaves’s on the TV. Would make the ground look a lot better and modern. Unsure if the Bob Lord is too small for this to get a good angle ?
It's where they used to be
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:46 am
by ClaretTony
pureclaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:20 pm
thats where they used to be and it was always a race to get round to lie on top of the home concreate dug outs sometime allowed to stay other times forced off
Only for a very short time were they on the Longside - have been trying to think when they moved and when they moved back but it was only a short time. They were in front of the Bob Lord in 1983/84 when Bond was manager and in 1986/87 when Miller came back but moved between those two seasons so at the most for two seasons.
As has been pointed out, moving them in front of the Longside now would cost us a lot of seats given how low it is at the front of the Longside.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:48 am
by ClaretTony
ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:21 pm
I’d much prefer the TV cameras to be on the Bob Lord side so it shows the James Hargreaves’s on the TV. Would make the ground look a lot better and modern. Unsure if the Bob Lord is too small for this to get a good angle ?
There was a short time when they were but it wasn't often there was any televising of our games then. They were placed right behind the directors box. If they were moved now, we'd have to build a platform I imagine on the top of the Bob Lord.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:55 am
by wilks_bfc
Cameras were on Bob Lord side upto at least the 1991/92 season as all the footage on the Champions video/DVD was from that side
Always thought it was odd though that the commentators gantry was on the Longside
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:19 am
by Nori1958
wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:55 am
Cameras were on Bob Lord side upto at least the 1991/92 season as all the footage on the Champions video/DVD was from that side
Always thought it was odd though that the commentators gantry was on the Longside
Match of the day back in the 70s was from that side..... certainly the Orient game was that side
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:04 am
by Stayingup
ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:21 pm
I’d much prefer the TV cameras to be on the Bob Lord side so it shows the James Hargreaves’s on the TV. Would make the ground look a lot better and modern. Unsure if the Bob Lord is too small for this to get a good angle ?
The roof on the BL is low and there are the stanchions. The cameras, if situated at the back of the stand would not always show a clear unobstructed view. Those sat near the back of the BL are unable to see the screen between the JH and the JM stands.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:47 am
by Owdsyker
Stayingup wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:04 am
The roof on the BL is low and there are the stanchions. The cameras, if situated at the back of the stand would not always show a clear unobstructed view. Those sat near the back of the BL are unable to see the screen between the JH and the JM stands.
That being the case how did t'Rovers manage to do the same thing with their cameras? And their old stand has more stanchions than the BL.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:55 am
by GordonvaleClaret
Bob Lord and TV cameras are not friends.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:20 am
by Transpennine
ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:21 pm
I’d much prefer the TV cameras to be on the Bob Lord side so it shows the James Hargreaves’s on the TV. Would make the ground look a lot better and modern. Unsure if the Bob Lord is too small for this to get a good angle ?
The view from the current position is one of the best in the country. Pitch, Bob Lord, and the surrounding countryside.
The opposite view of a cheaply built, 30 year old bog standard stand isn't exactly what I'd call modern.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:56 pm
by pureclaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:46 am
Only for a very short time were they on the Longside - have been trying to think when they moved and when they moved back but it was only a short time. They were in front of the Bob Lord in 1983/84 when Bond was manager and in 1986/87 when Miller came back but moved between those two seasons so at the most for two seasons.
As has been pointed out, moving them in front of the Longside now would cost us a lot of seats given how low it is at the front of the Longside.
Hi Tony not often you get dates wrong but i think they moved in 1969 until 1974 as that was when the Brunshaw road stand was knocked down the Beehole stand extended 69/70 Bob Lord opened 1974 I think that from memorey the empty space and new build had a huge wooden fence along side the pitch, not sure if any dugout there but do feel was longside for 3 or 4 seasons. When the cricketfield stand opened was when the players started to come out from there and only moved to the side of the stand later on, From about 1974 we had season tickets in the cricket field just behind and above the players entrance I do rember being there for the wimbledon fa cup loss
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:59 pm
by Stayingup
Owdsyker wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:47 am
That being the case how did t'Rovers manage to do the same thing with their cameras? And their old stand has more stanchions than the BL.
They used an old Indian rope trick. An expandable bendable lens.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:30 pm
by FCBurnley
Obviously a lot will depend on what happens in the longer term with the BL and CFS. And where the dressing rooms are situated. I guess in a perfect world we would have 2 new stands but I can’t see that happening any time soon
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:10 pm
by ClaretTony
pureclaret wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:56 pm
Hi Tony not often you get dates wrong but i think they moved in 1969 until 1974 as that was when the Brunshaw road stand was knocked down the Beehole stand extended 69/70 Bob Lord opened 1974 I think that from memorey the empty space and new build had a huge wooden fence along side the pitch, not sure if any dugout there but do feel was longside for 3 or 4 seasons. When the cricketfield stand opened was when the players started to come out from there and only moved to the side of the stand later on, From about 1974 we had season tickets in the cricket field just behind and above the players entrance I do rember being there for the wimbledon fa cup loss
Sorry, I was referring to the period in the 1980s when, for some reason, we just switched from the front of the Bob Lord to the Longside which was possibly just the 1985/86 season. The dug outs were actually there ready and that was during the time between the old stand being knocked down and the Bob Lord opening.
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:24 pm
by pureclaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:10 pm
Sorry, I was referring to the period in the 1980s when, for some reason, we just switched from the front of the Bob Lord to the Longside which was possibly just the 1985/86 season. The dug outs were actually there ready and that was during the time between the old stand being knocked down and the Bob Lord opening.
It was the doubt that my mind was playing up I knew I was about 10 at the time, going on our own and running round at 1;30 to get a place on the top of the home one until told to get off lol imagine kids going on there own to a match at 10 today and had to walk from Cureden st Bly now its abour where Anchor park is (Sainsburys)
Re: Dug Outs at The Turf
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:41 pm
by DXS
Tommy Cavanagh always wanted them in front of the Longside because it reminded him of Old Trafford