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West Indies v England

Post by giveusaB » Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:44 pm

First one day international
England: Will Jacks, Phil Salt, Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Harry Brook, Jos Buttler (capt/wk), Liam Livingstone, Sam Curran, Brydon Carse, Rehan Ahmed, Gus Atkinson.

West Indies: Brandon King, Alick Athanaze, Keacy Carty, Shai Hope (capt/wk), Shimron Hetmyer, Sherfane Rutherford, Romario Shepherd, Yannic Cariah, Alzarri Joseph, Gudakesh Motie, Oshane Thomas.

England won toss and bat.Live on TNT sport.

After 3 overs England are 25/0

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by CleggHall » Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:59 pm

The old guard gone - good!

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:02 pm

70/0 off 7 overs. Salt and Jacks playing like a 20/20 game.

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by claretblue » Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:06 pm

CleggHall wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 1:59 pm
The old guard gone - good!
…no Fred Trueman! :o

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by Leisure » Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:33 pm

claretblue wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 2:06 pm
…no Fred Trueman! :o
or Boycott! ;)

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:28 pm

I'm not sure how Livingstone has managed to blag his way into that team.

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:54 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:28 pm
I'm not sure how Livingstone has managed to blag his way into that team.
I agree totally. He's a utility player though and perfectly exemplifies modern one day cricket. He's not fantastic at any discipline, and wouldn't get selected outright but as he can bat, bowl a bit and is a decent fielder he gets the nod..plus he's a b*****d fan so that makes it worse..

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by Leisure » Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:10 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:54 pm
plus he's a b*****d fan so that makes it worse..
We all have a cross to bear! ;)

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:33 pm

He is battling better than Buttler at the moment
An excellent fielder and will probably get through a few useful overs.
The West Indies team is full of unknowns as the politics over there means several top players are not selected
England should win all 3

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by LeadBelly » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:00 pm

I'd forgotten this series was imminent. When, early afternoon, I looked at what was on TV and saw live cricket, I assumed it was India v Aus until I looked more closely.

Good start by England anyway but Butler and Livingstone getting only 20 between them in 32 balls was v disappointing. Curran and Carse have done a good job here though getting us past 300 with 2+ overs left.

See how our bowlers shape up after the break.

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:11 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:00 pm
I'd forgotten this series was imminent. When, early afternoon, I looked at what was on TV and saw live cricket, I assumed it was India v Aus until I looked more closely.

Good start by England anyway but Butler and Livingstone getting only 20 between them in 32 balls was v disappointing. Curran and Carse have done a good job here though getting us past 300 with 2+ overs left.

See how our bowlers shape up after the break.
Not very well, is the answer to that.
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Re: West Indies v England

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:13 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:00 pm
I'd forgotten this series was imminent. When, early afternoon, I looked at what was on TV and saw live cricket, I assumed it was India v Aus until I looked more closely.

Good start by England anyway but Butler and Livingstone getting only 20 between them in 32 balls was v disappointing. Curran and Carse have done a good job here though getting us past 300 with 2+ overs left.

See how our bowlers shape up after the break.
Curran and Carse did well with the bat, however, their main job is to bowl well ---they were nowhere near good enough and bowled too short and too wide and undid all the good work of Atkinson, Livingstone and Ahmed.
Well done to the Windies though, they belived in themselves and batted well.
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Re: West Indies v England

Post by LeadBelly » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:22 pm

Aye, far to many bad balls there.
What's happened to Sam Curran though? He used to be a decent "death" bowler but that 49th over was just awful. It is difficult bowling when there an established batsmen in excellent form but that was dire. Fair play to Shai Hope there though- a real captain's innings.

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:23 pm

LeadBelly wrote:
Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:22 pm
Aye, far to many bad balls there.
What's happened to Sam Curran though? He used to be a decent "death" bowler but that 49th over was just awful. It is difficult bowling when there an established batsmen in excellent form but that was dire. Fair play to Shai Hope there though- a real captain's innings.
Sam started having problems during the World Cup and went for quite a lot of runs in some of those matches. I can only think that his confidence is very low because he just didn't seem to be able to perform as he used to. It was certainly a headache for Josh Buttler when it got to the closing overs.
Shai Hope was superb.

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by giveusaB » Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:18 pm

2nd one day international today.
England won toss and bowl.West Indies currently 41/4 after 10

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:28 pm

202 all out in 40th over
3 wickets apiece for Sam Curran and Liam Livingstone.
2 great all round cricketers

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:03 am

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:28 pm
202 all out in 40th over
3 wickets apiece for Sam Curran and Liam Livingstone.
2 great all round cricketers
Liam Livingstone a great all round cricketer???????

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Re: West Indies v England

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:22 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:03 am
Liam Livingstone a great all round cricketer???????
He's got the cricket ability, but he just hasn't got a cricket brain.

He's a more than useful white ball bowler, in an era where bowling crap is a tactic.
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Re: West Indies v England

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:39 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:22 am
He's got the cricket ability, but he just hasn't got a cricket brain.

He's a more than useful white ball bowler, in an era where bowling crap is a tactic.
About sums him up - how anyone can describe him as a great all round cricketer having seen him bat is beyond believe and I've seen him lose many a game for Lancs with his bowling.

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