Page 1 of 1
High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:05 pm
by Paul Waine
Friday afternoon light-hearted moment.
No other words needed.
Enjoy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67659554
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:07 pm
by Rowls
Lolz.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:50 pm
by simonclaret
Not many there to see it!
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:21 pm
by claptrappers_union
- Screenshot 2023-12-08 at 17.23.34.png (567.4 KiB) Viewed 2990 times
I don't think he touched the ball; he tapped the keeper's glove who then fumbled it.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:38 pm
by dsr
His first touch was on the goalkeeper's glove, his second and probably third were on the ball.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:47 pm
by dougcollins
It was a most ill-conceived move.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:31 pm
by claretburns
Is it a penalty though? I thought it had to be a deliberate handball or the hand not being in a natural position?
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:44 pm
by Malvern claret
I remember Steve McMahon doing the same thing years ago in division 1, playing for Liverpool.
The game was on match of the day and while it was suggested that technically it should have been a penalty it was not ‘in the spirit of the law’.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:08 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Fortunately it happened in a match in a league that nobody cares about.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:02 am
by dsr
claretburns wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:31 pm
Is it a penalty though? I thought it had to be a deliberate handball or the hand not being in a natural position?
If a forward knocked the ball out of the goalkeeper's hand like that, it would be considered deliberate handball. I don't see it any differently for a defender.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:44 am
by roperclaret
dsr wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:02 am
If a forward knocked the ball out of the goalkeeper's hand like that, it would be considered deliberate handball. I don't see it any differently for a defender.
But the defender is not trying to gain an advantage
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:31 am
by Notsosuperstevedavis
If the player intended to only touch the glove….
How is it NOT an accidental handball?
No point even discussing the refs decision to award handball.
The (reffing) world’d gone mad.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 12:30 pm
by Malvern claret
It’s like a player attempting a tackle but missing the ball and tripping the opponent, the act of making the tackle is deliberate but the act of missing the ball is accidental., but it’s a foul. Most trips occur when a defender attempts to play the ball but the opponent shifts the ball before he gets there.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:36 pm
by bfcmik
The contact wins the ball, therefore it is a freekick, not sure it's handball though
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:32 pm
by dsr
Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:31 am
If the player intended to only touch the glove….
How is it NOT an accidental handball?
No point even discussing the refs decision to award handball.
The (reffing) world’d gone mad.
The defender ran up to the keeper and batted the ball out of his hand. Why does the referee have to take all the blame? Couldn't the defender have in some way managed to avoid giving away a penalty, simply by not batting the ball out of the keeper's hand?
We see this a lot from managers. Players do something stupid, and the ref gives a decision against them, and the manager makes out it's all the ref's fault. You know the sort of thing. "It isn't fair that my man got booked for taking his shirt off, the ref should have used common sense". If the player doesn't want a decision given against him for doing something stupid, then the better option is not to do something stupid. Not do it and then blame the ref.
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:19 am
by Notsosuperstevedavis
dsr wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:32 pm
The defender ran up to the keeper and batted the ball out of his hand. Why does the referee have to take all the blame? Couldn't the defender have in some way managed to avoid giving away a penalty, simply by not batting the ball out of the keeper's hand?
We see this a lot from managers. Players do something stupid, and the ref gives a decision against them, and the manager makes out it's all the ref's fault. You know the sort of thing. "It isn't fair that my man got booked for taking his shirt off, the ref should have used common sense". If the player doesn't want a decision given against him for doing something stupid, then the better option is not to do something stupid. Not do it and then blame the ref.
You’ve made a bit of a leap there my friend.
It IS accidental. You wont convince me otherwise. He touches the GK’s wrist as gratitude maybe? He doesn’t intend to touch ball. Nonetheless. He does and the ref awards a pen. He has handled in the box.
I simply said there’s no point in discussing the reffing. That is all
Re: High Five - Penalty
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:48 am
by chekhov
Is the ball not “out of play” when in the keeper’s hands?