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Belial
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by Belial » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm
Foshiznik wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm
We’ve just got a point away at one of the most progressive teams in the league. Give it a rest.
Give it a rest? Who are you!
Lucky today and a good performance by Trafford. 4-1 otherwise...and it'd be the same again.
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by Clive 1960 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm
A great point but second half just like wolves not in it which worries me..
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by ClaretAL » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm
Trafford masterclass. Concerned about left back position for Everton match now Chas is suspended. That is 2 cameo appearances where Tressor is showing something.
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by derryclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Great point, was jittery at the end there
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by claretburns » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Great performance from Trafford, defence and midfield still very shaky
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by Tricky Trevor » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
Good point.
Quick thoughts: magnificent Trafford but still needs to work on distribution.
Adingra made Charlie look very poor without appearing to have a trick.
Still loads of improvement needed.
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by spt_claret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
Regardless of my reservations about his distribution causing problems with our tactical approach, Trafford's shot stopping got us that point today, superb second half performance from him some unreal saves. Stand by it that we should rethink our tactics at the back with him but that was a very Popesque, Heatonesque performance all round from him.
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by Woodleyclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
A great point against the £400m pound men
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by KRBFC » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
Clive 1960 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm
A great point but second half just like wolves not in it which worries me..
We had the best chance of the second half…
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by SouthamptonClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
At one nil if Jay Rod got a little bit more on it it would have gone in, keeper didn't know much about it hitting his leg. That's not a criticism.
Great point
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by KRBFC » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:04 pm
Rodriguez missed another sitter, really costly.
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by Elbarad » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:04 pm
Good point, would have taken it this morning. Still lots of improvement needed of course. I hope we can hang around points wise until some of our young lads improve just that little bit needed. Wish Jay had managed to bundle that one in. Should have.
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by Swizzlestick » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:04 pm
Mentioned this the other day, but we're showing some bottle now at least - it's not pretty, and I'm not on board with some of Kompany's decisions today, but there's definitely a bit more about us to dig out a result. Sounds like Traff was immense. Crucial point considering results elsewhere.
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by willsclarets » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:05 pm
Reminded me a bit of wouts missing against villa when we went down. As the striker there you have to go high
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by FCBurnley » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm
Horrible to watch. Team fought hard but clearly we are way from PL standard. Interstate that Wilder turns Sheff U round. Wonder if Pace noticed that !!!
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by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
We had the best chance of the second half…
We did, but you've got to put them away.
Otherwise it's pretty irrelevant.
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by Claret3495 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
Credit where it is due, Trafford saved us many times this afternoon! Brilliant point UTC.
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Kgun5
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by Kgun5 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:04 pm
Mentioned this the other day, but we're showing some bottle now at least - it's not pretty, and I'm not on board with some of Kompany's decisions today, but there's definitely a bit more about us to dig out a result. Sounds like Traff was immense. Crucial point considering results elsewhere.
There’s still tomorrow for some results to go our way.
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by KRBFC » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
We did, but you've got to put them away.
Otherwise it's pretty irrelevant.
Exactly my point, if we score than goal at Wolves and then today, how many more points is that? We will sadly never know but they’re almost unmissable chances.
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by Commy » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm
Hopefully Foster is doing ok and will be back soon as I think he would make a big difference. Brighton aren't the best defensively and he would have bullied them.
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by Kgun5 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm
Horrible to watch. Team fought hard but clearly we are way from PL standard. Interstate that Wilder turns Sheff U round. Wonder if Pace noticed that !!!
I disagree. This was a solid away game for the lads.
I don’t like our tactics and substitutions in the 2nd half, but we were hardly “way from PL standard” today.
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by NewClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
JohnMac wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:57 pm
James Trafford has come of age today, simply magnificent!
Completely agree.
I’ve been calling for Muric’ return, albeit stopped when it became obvious it’s not going to happen, and I do support Kompany in backing his players and allowing them to improve. I know Trafford will improve, just like Muric did.
Wont lie, when Trafford was playing all those crap balls in to the middle I was praying that he’d bring Muric on. I’m still undecided, I just think the way we play might be better with him, but he is absolutely unquestionably the better shot stopper. Some of his saves there were world class. Showed balls of steel out there.
Nothing but admiration for him and long may that continue. We’ll need him in that form to stand a chance.
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by willsclarets » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
It's difficult to point to individual chances. It's games like Palace at home where we just should have won no question. Particularly relevant now palace are right down there
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by BabylonClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:14 pm
Kgun5 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:57 pm
Starting to look like we can be competitive in this league. I hope it’s not too late.
That's true but there's lots of points to play for and we've shown we are there or thereabouts in getting them over the last 5 or 6 games.
At the very least we will be going down swinginging which would bode better for next season if we do drop
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by SussexDon1inIreland » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:14 pm
I would have taken a point before kick off
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by bfcmik » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:16 pm
Belial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm
Give it a rest? Who are you!
Lucky today and a good performance by Trafford. 4-1 otherwise...and it'd be the same again.
Pressing, attacking and luck don't guarantee points, look at us at Forest, v West Ham, Palace, United, and probably more. We could have been 2-0 before their equaliser, they could have been 4-1, as you claim. Doesn't matter, the result will go down in history as 1-1 and no-one will care what could have been or should have been!
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by Kgun5 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:17 pm
BabylonClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:14 pm
That's true but there's lots of points to play for and we've shown we are there or thereabouts in getting them over the last 5 or 6 games.
At the very least we will be going down swinginging which would bode better for next season if we do drop
I’m cautiously optimistic. Everton is huge!
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by NewClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:18 pm
ClaretAL wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm
Trafford masterclass. Concerned about left back position for Everton match now Chas is suspended. That is 2 cameo appearances where Tressor is showing something.
Will be Delcroix or Roberts I imagine.
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by Andreshotboots » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm
Should have been 5 points from 3 games without the Wolves mistake which we'd have snatched people's hands off.
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by FCBurnley » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:26 pm
Trafford shot stopping today was excellent but his distribution was shocking. He certainly won us a point today which is better than the points he often costs us.
Don’t know what the deal is with Ramsey but he must hate being at Burnley and Villa must be well happy
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by taio » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:29 pm
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:26 pm
Trafford shot stopping today was excellent but his distribution was shocking. He certainly won us a point today which is better than the points he often costs us.
Don’t know what the deal is with Ramsey but he must hate being at Burnley and Villa must be well happy
Ramsey got injured
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by Colburn_Claret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:36 pm
Dropped plenty of points we didn't deserve to this season, we finally get a point against the run of play.
Fingers crossed it shows our luck is about to turn.
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by JohnMac » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:10 pm
Ramsey was injured when we signed him and with him wearing a brace, maybe this is a bigger problem than first considered.
Has he been rushed into playing I wonder? Sports science should prevent this but it sure looks a bit iffy him getting injured like he has so far.