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Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm
by Spiral
I'll have one large serving of humble pie please.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
He was apparently amazing today
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm
by Robbie_painter
Spiral wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm
I'll have one large serving of humble pie please.
Man of the match by a long way today
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm
by ElectroClaret
Well, I've been as critical of him as anyone, but a fabulous display today.
It's one more point than I thought we'd get.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm
by Nori1958
Every independent reporter says he was superb
Let's see what the UTC experts can do to bring that rating down
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm
by jdrobbo
Absolutely incredible performance in the second half. Incredible!
Well done, Traff!!
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
by Anthonini
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.
What a guy.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
by CoolClaret
Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.
Also made some terrible passes.
The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups
It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.
10 saves - phenomenal
35% accurate passing - torrid
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
by Vegas Claret
immense today under great pressure too.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
by ebby
If not for him we would have been hammered.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
by AGENT_CLARET
Nori1958 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm
Every independent reporter says he was superb
Let's see what the UTC experts can do to bring that rating down
Have a day off, if he's received criticism in past game's then he's deserved it, today he was fantastic and deserves the plaudits, it's how it goes
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
by THEWELLERNUT70
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Well I’ve said he’s been good all season so I’m having a nice helping of smug pie!
Seriously an outstanding performance
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
by StayingDown4Ever
Nori1958 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm
Every independent reporter says he was superb
Let's see what the UTC experts can do to bring that rating down
8/10 for me, good performance. Couple of good saves and a lot of routine ones. Kicking was woeful again and not convincing on some of the crosses he went for.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
by taio
Top class performance
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
by spt_claret
His distribution was shocking but at the most important thing- saving shots- especially in the second half he made some superb saves to keep us in it. Excellent shot stopping performance, not a ball playing keeper but he will be a top top stopper, next Pope for sure.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
by Murger
Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.
What a guy.
1 of the best in the world? Wtf? He’s had a great game, but Jesus.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:05 pm
by ebby
[quote=CoolClaret post_id=2233084 time=1702141289 user_id=3492
The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups
It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.
[/quote]
Agree, we need to change the tactics. Stop playing from our own half.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:05 pm
by Westleigh
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.
Also made some terrible passes.
The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups
It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.
10 saves - phenomenal
35% accurate passing - torrid
I’ve had pelters today for slagging him off ,his saves have definitely won us a point but you’ve hit the nail on the head,no doubt you’ll get crucified as well.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm
by Shaggy
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.
Also made some terrible passes.
The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups
It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.
10 saves - phenomenal
35% accurate passing - torrid
This is correct. Fantastic shot stopping but made some horrendous passes. He done 3 in a row straight Dinks to their midfielder which could have cost us. Also was suspect in the air, flapped at a couple of crosses.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm
by KRBFC
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
35% accurate passing - torrid
That’s an awful stat though, he was booting it long to Redmond. Rodriguez simply isn’t offering a real target atm either. There was a couple of kicks into midfield which were poor but only because Rodriguez wasn’t dropping to collect.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
by spt_claret
Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.
What a guy.
One of the best in the world? You honestly must be related to him.
Literally nobody has ever said he's one of the worst keepers to play for us either, except maybe 1 or 2, possibly the "Foster's pony" fella.
He had a fantastic stopper performance today, won us that point with those 2nd half saves especially in the last 15 minutes or so when everyone else was flagging. Anyone who can't admit that is delusional. But excess praise is no more helpful than excess criticism.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
by Anthonini
Murger wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
1 of the best in the world? Wtf? He’s had a great game, but Jesus.
Jesus is the best but Trafford is a wall.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
by BabylonClaret
Tbf I think his quick distribution on the ground is pretty good. He struggles more when he has to lift it accurately. 3 absolutely top drawer saves today though.
Though Vitinho was very good too
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
by Claret3495
The home fans were clapping him at the end which says a lot
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm
by kentonclaret
According to many of the pundits Burnley’s biggest failing is overplaying creating dangerous situations, but presumably that is down to the manager and coaching staff.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm
by taio
Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.
What a guy.
Do you expect this to be taken seriously?
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm
by Bowclaret
We have an absolute gem here and most football people know we have. The lad is going right to the top.No doubt about that whatsoever
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
by Kilson810
Superb performance from him. Hope he builds on that going forwards and hopefully the defence have renewed confidence in him as well.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
by Robbie_painter
CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.
Also made some terrible passes.
The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups
It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.
10 saves - phenomenal
35% accurate passing - torrid
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
by Westleigh
Murger wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
1 of the best in the world? Wtf? He’s had a great game, but Jesus.
How can anyone win an argument for Muric ,(Trafford best in the World ) get him sold in the New Year ,he must be worth £50 mill ,

Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
by Steve1956
Been immense all season ..lots on here can't see that....Muric who?
Well played James ..keep improving lots more to come yet.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm
by CryerBFC
Making massive improvements, at half time I was thinking who was warranting of MOTM, probably Odobert. But that second half and some of the saves makes him my MOM today.
It is still worrying how often his longer kicks are basically possession lost, not saying it is entirely his fault, sometimes the hold play is poor, but a few times he is at fault.
The ball in the first half aimed at JBG was Muric'esque, and last season with the likes of Tella running on to them, or even if JBL was there, that would have been brought down and a chance through on goal.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm
by ElectroClaret
Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment
..

Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm
by Acting Claret
I thought he should have come for the cross to stop the goal. Hopefully this will boost his confidence. He was smiling at the end.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
by Westleigh
Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
It only means he gave the ball away 65% of the time,VK’s build a team out of stats .
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
by Anthonini
taio wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Do you expect this to be taken seriously?
Once he gets called up you will. He's by far the most underrated Burnley player. These kind of performances are to expect from him. He needed to adjust to the league the same as all the rest of our players. If he can keep making progress the way he's doing now he's going to win us alot more games.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 pm
by Vegas Claret
JJ agrees
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 pm
by CoolClaret
KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm
That’s an awful stat though, he was booting it long to Redmond. Rodriguez simply isn’t offering a real target atm either. There was a couple of kicks into midfield which were poor but only because Rodriguez wasn’t dropping to collect.
It was the same in the first half though.
The point still stands. The distribution is chalk and cheese.
If we want a lad that can make reactionary saves behind a deep back four (which then turned into a back five) then yeah great!
Then I’d have to ask - we’re not playing this visionary ‘sexy football’ are we.
Telling that we’ve played our best stuff 4-4-2 and finally got a point away in the PL playing 18 mins 5-4-1.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 pm
by Steve1956
Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
This^
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:13 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Do his confidence a world of good.
He's so young.
Some cracking saves today. Won us the point.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:13 pm
by CoolClaret
Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
If you could read you’d see that I did, you pleb
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:15 pm
by taio
Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
Once he gets called up you will. He's by far the most underrated Burnley player. These kind of performances are to expect from him. He needed to adjust to the league the same as all the rest of our players. If he can keep making progress the way he's doing now he's going to win us alot more games.
You said he's one of the best in the world at the moment which is quite frankly laughable.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:17 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Claret3495 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
The home fans were clapping him at the end which says a lot
They'll still be calling him a lucky cnut on their NorthStand site!
They love to hate us on there.

Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:17 pm
by Commy
Well, we went for him because Brighton signed the one we wanted, and he hasn't impressed me at all when I have watched them. He is good with his feet but flaps at almost every cross and got away with one today because they got a foul from somewhere, where I don't know. I think Trafford will turn out the best of the two.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:18 pm
by bumba
Spiral wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm
I'll have one large serving of humble pie please.
Great second half, couple of excellent saves but some others I'd expect any keeper to be made.
45 good minutes out of 16 games, long way to go yet but a step in the right direction.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:18 pm
by bobinho
AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
Have a day off, if he's received criticism in past game's then he's deserved it, today he was fantastic and deserves the plaudits, it's how it goes
To be fair, he’s also received criticisms in games when he HASN'T deserved it.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:19 pm
by alwaysaclaret
Anthonini wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.
What a guy.
Lots more in front of him on the world stage, but great motm performance today.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:20 pm
by Anthonini
taio wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:15 pm
You said he's one of the best in the world at the moment which is quite frankly laughable.
Don't kill my buzz.
Re: Trafford
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm
by ClaretsPadiham
Unreal today I’ll give him that. Gained us a point.
But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.
Hopefully a huge confidence boost for him and the start of some better performances like today.