Does Pace regret ?

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by California Colner » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:58 pm

I rather watch the VK team play than the Dyche team

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Westleigh » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:02 pm

Good to see after the usual petty bitchiness that intelligent comments have been posted for either side of the argument and next weekends result will no doubt cause more debate , however none of us can know who would have spent the money most wisely,let’s hope VK wins the day SD gets a standing ovation and we beat the dreaded drop.
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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by KRBFC » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:02 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:52 pm
Know what your saying but the income was from players that we knew were leaving before VK got his feet under the table.
But what difference does that make to the clubs balance sheet? Your conspiracy theories and non stop negative waffle doesn’t override facts unfortunately.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Westleigh » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:04 pm

California Colner wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:58 pm
I rather watch the VK team play than the Dyche team
So would I but would love to see a bit more fire in our bellies.
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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Westleigh » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:02 pm
But what difference does that make to the clubs balance sheet? Your conspiracy theories and non stop negative waffle doesn’t override facts unfortunately.
Your implying that VK sold players and that affected the balance sheet ,McNeil and the rest had already packed their backs ,all the monies since VK arrived and been in control of have been outgoings.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:14 pm

Dyche was magnificent for us in terms of out and out success, unequaled in my lifetime. Him and his team gave us some truly incredible moments, winning at Old Trafford and Anfield etc were quite exceptional, I genuinely stood in my front room and applauded when we stopped Liverpool's unbeaten record. I can't lie though, the last few years the football was horrific. It was time for a change and I'm glad it happened. I hope he gets a standing ovation as he comes out at the weekend and I hope Tarks and McNeil get a good hand too, but when the whistle blows I hope we beat them all.
I doubt Pace has a single regret about potting him
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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by KRBFC » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:20 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:02 pm
Good to see after the usual petty bitchiness that intelligent comments have been posted for either side of the argument and next weekends result will no doubt cause more debate , however none of us can know who would have spent the money most wisely,let’s hope VK wins the day SD gets a standing ovation and we beat the dreaded drop.

This entire topic is fantasy land rubbish, there wasn’t £100m there for Dyche to spend, there wasn’t a choice for Pace to make so what is there to regret?

You’re talking about Dyche spending £100m on a team (that costs £130m+ with a £95m wage bill) that’s settled and been in the PL for 6 consecutive years and comparing it to a newly promoted side with a wage bill 1/3rd of that and huge holes to fill.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by KRBFC » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:23 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:11 pm
Your implying that VK sold players and that affected the balance sheet ,McNeil and the rest had already packed their backs ,all the monies since VK arrived and been in control of have been outgoings.
I’m not implying anything it’s cold hard facts, VK walked through the door and out went 4 players and in came £65m-75m.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Westleigh » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:23 pm
I’m not implying anything it’s cold hard facts, VK walked through the door and out went 4 players and in came £65m-75m.
That’s rubbish and you know it,VK had nothing to do with those players leaving ,your implying he did a bit of wheeler dealing to bring in £ 70+ mill.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Clive 1960 » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:29 pm

spending a shed full of money guarantees nothing it's how to team gel together on and off the field.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:04 am

Westleigh wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:28 pm
That’s rubbish and you know it,VK had nothing to do with those players leaving ,your implying he did a bit of wheeler dealing to bring in £ 70+ mill.
he really isn't

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:11 am

Westleigh wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:28 pm
That’s rubbish and you know it,VK had nothing to do with those players leaving ,your implying he did a bit of wheeler dealing to bring in £ 70+ mill.
I’m not implying anything, I’m giving you facts.

Why would the outgoings of Cornet, Collins, Pope and McNeil not be totalled up and considered when talking about VKs net spend last season?

Those out goings are the reason he had anything to spend at all. He probably wouldn’t have took the job if he wasn’t given some kind of guarantee that player sales would generate him some kind of kitty to replace the 15+ outgoings.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:26 am

California Colner wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:58 pm
I rather watch the VK team play than the Dyche team
If you like watching us lose then fair play.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by bumba » Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:29 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:23 pm
I’m not implying anything it’s cold hard facts, VK walked through the door and out went 4 players and in came £65m-75m.
Those players would have been sold regardless of manager, do you think they'd all have been sold if we had survived?
Exactly the same thing will happen next summer

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Dyched » Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:33 am

spt_claret wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:44 pm
On that I'd agree except I do think Hendrick always deserved a lot more credit
Gray as well. Big money spent for us, young, did a job for us and helping us achieve what we wanted then sold for an even bigger fee. The exact blueprint of what were trying to do now.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Foshiznik » Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:34 am

I'd love a bit of a Dyche/Kompany hybrid.
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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by Quicknick » Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:46 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:34 am
I'd love a bit of a Dyche/Kompany hybrid.
Hopefully Kompany will evolve into this.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:44 am

bumba wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:29 am
Those players would have been sold regardless of manager, do you think they'd all have been sold if we had survived?
Exactly the same thing will happen next summer
But what relevance does that have to what I said?

Everyone knows they were sold because we were relegated to pay debts and rebuild a squad.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by bumba » Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:55 am

KRBFC wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:44 am
But what relevance does that have to what I said?

Everyone knows they were sold because we were relegated to pay debts and rebuild a squad.
Because your saying Dyche could have sold all them and spent £100 million which isn't the case. No manager would have sold all them if we survived.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:57 am

bumba wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:55 am
Because your saying Dyche could have sold all them and spent £100 million which isn't the case. No manager would have sold all them if we survived.
Just highlighting how different the situations were and explaining how £100m wasn’t available for Dyche to spend, so nothing for Pace to regret which makes this whole topic fantasy.

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Re: Does Pace regret ?

Post by California Colner » Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:27 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:26 am
If you like watching us lose then fair play.
I don’t like to see us lose!!!
I do like the football we are trying to play and in time we will come good
At the moment we are just not quite there yet to be successful in the premier league
But I believe we will be at some point.
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