Awful

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.

We are getting good at making excuses after each defeat!

[Jacko]

I'm baffled by how we're set up to play. Why do we play so much through O'Shea when he is our worst passer? Why play with wingers but very rarely cross the ball into the box? Why slow possession at the back to break the press when the opposition are sitting back? Nothing about it makes sense.

[ottclaret]

Outcoached by Dyche.

Nothing to do with him having much better players to work with, then?

[JBR]

If I wanted to watch a game of young players trying to fulfil their potential I would go and watch the youth team.

We are watching some weird experiment that is doomed to fail. Someone thought it was a good idea or thinking outside the box.

[CoolClaret]

Nothing to do with him having much better players to work with, then?

When you have Brownhill marking Onana on corners then yeah I think it comes down to coaching

[elwaclaret]

Disappointingly predictable today, sadly. With the exception of trying to whip in high balls (against Tarks and Keane) more than I’ve spotted Burnley doing in the last eighteen months. We needed to tear into them from the kick off, and started ok. Sadly ok was nowhere near good enough, and then we got worse. Everton were always going to out muscle us, we needed a lucky punch early…. Rarely looked like happening. Dyche played it spot on, but it does not take SD to work out how to play against us at the moment.

Last time Everton dominated us like that at Turf at Christmas was the turning point… fingers crossed.

[RammyClaret61]

Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.

Ok, we’re coming to the halfway point of the season. We’ve 8 points, and 2 wins. can you really see us getting at least 20 more points? That’s more that just beating those around us!

[Neil]

Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.

But we got a result against Brighton. Away from home. Just last week.
I doubt anyone expected a walk over win today but the least we can expect is to be competitive at home to Everton.

[yTib]

This is the worst season in the history of Burnley Football Club.

by far and away the silliest thing i've ever read on the internet.

[spt_claret]

" Forget the Scores " ...isnt that kind of the point of professional football ?

Seemingly not now, we're a developmental squad for the big (read- anyone who'll pay a profit) clubs whose purpose is to make money for investors. Enjoy the ride, think of all the money our ex wall street financiers can make.

Sick of the goalpost moving excuses. Few weeks ago Everton were apparently relegation rivals there for the taking all of a sudden it was unrealistic to expect to win at home. Seems every game is now considered unrealistic to win, can't imagine why a 101pt Championship winner with 80m summer spend expected to be doing better than Luton.

[JR1882]

Nothing to do with him having much better players to work with, then?

It’s not his fault we signed 15 crap players this summer is it?

[Stayingup]

we created quite a few chances and opportunities. Can't defend for **** though

But we didn't score.

[superdimitri]

Ok, we’re coming to the halfway point of the season. We’ve 8 points, and 2 wins. can you really see us getting at least 20 more points? That’s more that just beating those around us!

Yes, there will be games we get results where we are not expected to like Brighton (A) and there will be games where we lose when we're expected to like Everton (H).

People got their hopes up after the result at Brighton but we were very, very lucky. We have the ability to turn over teams that are worse than Everton. I'm not losing hope yet.

We are playing a lot better now than we were earlier in the season and having Foster and Benson back is a great boost.

[Sheedyclaret]

Yes, there will be games we get results where we are not expected to like Brighton (A) and there will be games where we lose when we're expected to like Everton (H).

People got their hopes up after the result at Brighton but we were very, very lucky. We have the ability to turn over teams that are worse than Everton. I'm not losing hope yet.

We are playing a lot better now than we were earlier in the season and having Foster and Benson back is a great boost.

Does benson cut it at this level I’m not so sure

[MT03ALG]

Dyche came for a 1-0 and ended up with a 2-0. Like shelling peas.

[bumba]

When you have Brownhill marking Onana on corners then yeah I think it comes down to coaching

What about Vitinho marking Tarkowski......magical decision

[Murger]

People got their hopes up after the result at Brighton but we were very, very lucky. We have the ability to turn over teams that are worse than Everton. I'm not losing hope yet.

Do we? We haven’t looked close to turning anyone over. We can’t even keep a cleansheet.

Edit: apart from Sheffield, who look more gash than us.

[AlargeClaret]

I’ve really bought into VK’s experiment but it’s looking like 100m down the drain . We’re so poor it’s almost beyond belief , we’re offering nothing and defensively we’re shocking . Missed Taylor and really need Ekdal and a proper right back .

[claptrappers_union]

I identified at least five players who played today who I don't think ‘get it’.

They're not proper Burnley players; in my opinion, they don’t consider it a privilege to wear the shirt and are just playing for a **** team at the bottom of the league.

I don't think I've seen a Burnley performance, especially in that first half so lacklustre at Turf Moor for a long time...

Poor do.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I identified at least five players who played today who I don't think ‘get it’.

They're not proper Burnley players; in my opinion, they don’t consider it a privilege to wear the shirt and are just playing for a **** team at the bottom of the league.

I don't think I've seen a Burnley performance, especially in that first half so lacklustre at Turf Moor for a long time...

Poor do.

This is the problem players strolling round which has a knock effect atmosphere wise. Last season we were on the front foot and Kompany made subs that made a difference to the game.

[Vegas Claret]

Why is he our ‘best chance’?

No one is bigger than the club.

did you want Dyche sacking when he took us down or when we lost 3-0 at Hull the following season whilst being in mid table ??

Short term vision, the blight of the reactionary football fan

[Westleigh]

Bit of an over reaction. If not for the point reduction Everton would be on par with Brighton in the table. Anyone expecting a result against them is expecting too much.

We need to beat the sides who will be near us at the end of the season. If we can do that we'll stay up.

So if we beat the teams around we’ll stay up ,that’s Luton,Sheff Utd,Notts Forest ,Bournemouth ,so we can get 3 more off Luton ,Sheff Utd ,Notts For,and Bournemouth that’ll give us another 12 points ,a grand total of 20 points ,please explain how we stop up with 20 points?

[CoolClaret]

did you want Dyche sacking when he took us down or when we lost 3-0 at Hull the following season whilst being in mid table ??

Short term vision, the blight of the reactionary football fan

Did I say sack him?

On Dyche , no because he had naff all budget and we were actually showing that we could compete in the premier league!

The following season we certainly weren’t in ‘mid table’ at Hull were we? Right in the hunt

[Vegas Claret]

But we didn't score.

Everton's last few results

Forest 0 Everton 1
Everton 3 Newcastle 0
Everton 2 Chelsea 0

Remind me how much Forest, Newcastle and Chelsea have spent ? Why didn't they score against Everton ?

[jedi_master]

This is the problem players strolling round which has a knock effect atmosphere wise. Last season we were on the front foot and Kompany made subs that made a difference to the game.

I cannot disagree. I certainly didn’t get the impression some of our team felt as **** about what was happening around them as I did having to suffer watching it.

We’re looking certainties for at best 18th and as a result it’s a given we will have some players already thinking about their next move and that then leads to lack of effort/lack of appetite for a tackle to preserve fitness as the season gets past February/March time.

[Vegas Claret]

Did I say sack him?

On Dyche , no because he had naff all budget and we were actually showing that we could compete in the premier league!

The following season we certainly weren’t in ‘mid table’ at Hull were we? Right in the hunt

Did I says you said you wanted him sacked ? Read what I put

[bf2k]

If I wanted to watch a game of young players trying to fulfil their potential I would go and watch the youth team.

Well go and watch the youth team then.

[CoolClaret]

Did I says you said you wanted him sacked ? Read what I put

So why did you ask me if I wanted Dyche sacked then?

[bf2k]

Yawn.

:?:

[Boss Hogg]

Weak as anything today. The softest Burnley team I can remember. So easy to play against and so predictable. I doubt Everton broke sweat first half. Could barely be bothered to leave the concourse after half time was up.

[xxmunkyennuixx]

There are ways to lose. Too many games have seen us lose in a poor manner. Put a few tackles in and run harder. Be physical. Give the fans something to back. Bring us into the game.

Zonal marking on set pieces can **** off as well. We have kid in the nets, give him some support by going man to man.

[claptrappers_union]

did you want Dyche sacking when he took us down or when we lost 3-0 at Hull the following season whilst being in mid table ??

Funny how you bring that Hull match up. At full time, there was a players meeting and they all held themselves accountable for the performances and the rest is history.

For some reason I can't imagine that happening with this lot.

[Vino blanco]

Last season was one of my favourites ever watching the Clarets: we had a team which played fabulous, attacking football, running off the ball into space, team mates passing into that space eveyone knowing what they were doing. When I look at today's starting eleven I see only two players, Brownhill and Beyer, who were certs to get into last season's team. Why have we made so many changes so quickly knowing we were going to be facing top PL teams? Who is responsible for thinking we could bring in so many inexperienced, light weight players from weak European teams and expect them to compete with established PL teams. I really find it hard to comprehend the logic behind our planning for the challenges we knew we would face.

[TsarBomba]

It’s all a bit ‘meh’.

Players arent good enough.

Fans have pretty much given up.

Roll on May.

[RammyClaret61]

Dyche came for a 1-0 and ended up with a 2-0. Like shelling peas.

The 2 games I’ve been to… Crystal Palace came for 0-0 and got 2-0.
85 minutes West Ham we’re beaten, and got 2-1

[Elizabeth]

Last season was one of my favourites ever watching the Clarets: we had a team which played fabulous, attacking football, running off the ball into space, team mates passing into that space eveyone knowing what they were doing. When I look at today's starting eleven I see only two players, Brownhill and Beyer, who were certs to get into last season's team. Why have we made so many changes so quickly knowing we were going to be facing top PL teams? Who is responsible for thinking we could bring in so many inexperienced, light weight players from weak European teams and expect them to compete with established PL teams. I really find it hard to comprehend the logic behind our planning for the challenges we knew we would face.

I think you’ve summed it up excellently

[Carlos the Great]

VK stock is plummeting from last season and looks like might have a lot to learn to be a successful premier league manager . His monumental success as a player could be hampering his progress with a stubbornness to accept he has flaws and is on a leaning curve ..

[Elizabeth]

Weak as anything today. The softest Burnley team I can remember. So easy to play against and so predictable. I doubt Everton broke sweat first half. Could barely be bothered to leave the concourse after half time was up.

I can’t argue with you. Tell me why you gave up months ago. What was so obvious to you that you didn’t give them a chance ?

[Mark the Claret]

There are ways to lose. Too many games have seen us lose in a poor manner. Put a few tackles in and run harder. Be physical. Give the fans something to back. Bring us into the game.

Zonal marking on set pieces can **** off as well. We have kid in the nets, give him some support by going man to man.

Exactly, we let teams walk all over us, we never get players booked for a crunching tackle, just for time wasting or some other trivial offence

[warksclaret]

I think a League One team playing Everton in the Cup tonight would have given Everton more problems

[Mark the Claret]

I think a League One team playing Everton in the Cup tonight would have given Everton more problems

They would, and anyone thinking this team has the balls for the championship, is in for a shock

[bf2k]

Was like watching a training ground exercise the majority of the 90 minutes today utter garbage.

What did you expect from this season?

[bumba]

Funny how you bring that Hull match up. At full time, there was a players meeting and they all held themselves accountable for the performances and the rest is history.

For some reason I can't imagine that happening with this lot.

With the amount of meetings VK says they have you'd think they'd discuss things but they don't even look like they communicate

[BabylonClaret]

Yes, there will be games we get results where we are not expected to like Brighton (A) and there will be games where we lose when we're expected to like Everton (H).

People got their hopes up after the result at Brighton but we were very, very lucky. We have the ability to turn over teams that are worse than Everton. I'm not losing hope yet.

We are playing a lot better now than we were earlier in the season and having Foster and Benson back is a great boost.

I though some better performances, battering Sheffield and being competetive awau at Wolves and Brighton boded well but we were drewdful today. Today was back to how we were against Palace. We really didn't cause them too many problems.

We are so easy to play against - teams don't have to work hard to turn us over.

We are as good as down.

[bf2k]

" Forget the Scores " ...isnt that kind of the point of professional football ?

In the short term but this team is not a short term “project”

[Mark the Claret]

What did you expect from this season?

Better

[CoolClaret]

They would, and anyone thinking this team has the balls for the championship, is in for a shock

Totally agree.

Our spine that performed so well for us last season and laid a foundation for the extra bits of European flair will either be gone or another few years older…

[Spijed]

In the short term but this team is not a short term “project”

And what's the "long term project"?

[Dark Cloud]

Two (massive) problems.
1. We ALWAYS concede at least one (usually more) dreadfully soft goals to teams who really don't seem much better than us.
2. Having gone behind in games we simply can't show any urgency or change of gear no matter how much the clock is ticking. We ALWAYS play like we're 3-0 up whatever the score!!

Hugely frustrating!!

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Two (massive) problems.
1. We ALWAYS concede at least one (usually more) dreadfully soft goals to teams who really don't seem much better than us.
2. Having gone behind in games we simply can't show any urgency or change of gear no matter how much the clock is ticking. We ALWAYS play like we're 3-0 up whatever the score!!

Hugely frustrating!!

I’ll add we never play well in both halves.

If we had the team of last season we’d be mid table.