Just watched it ,the guy is like a clone of Fat Frank and we all know what happened to him.

Infuriating tbh.

Where can I watch it

I’m getting sick to death now of this stubborn project. He refuses to change and it has ended up with us relegated.

Imagine passing the ball about slowly at the back and to the keeper as though you’re at 0-0….when you’re 2-0 down and there’s 10 minutes left.

The kids on the pitch have no personality. There’s nobody in that squad able to tell Kompany to ***k off, we’re going to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and have a go,

He’s got yes men. He daren’t sign older experienced players because he’s scared of them. He’s scared they’ll have an opinion.

“When we get on the pitch we get a chance to do what we want to do”. Really?

Claretforever wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:47 pm

I’m getting sick to death now of this stubborn project. He refuses to change and it has ended up with us relegated.

Imagine passing the ball about slowly at the back and to the keeper as though you’re at 0-0….when you’re 2-0 down and there’s 10 minutes left.

The kids on the pitch have no personality. There’s nobody in that squad able to tell Kompany to ***k off, we’re going to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and have a go,

He’s got yes men. He daren’t sign older experienced players because he’s scared of them. He’s scared they’ll have an opinion.

Ah yes thats what we want, players ignoring the managers instructions and doing what they want.
In fact its all irrational waffle

He’s like a captain that’s just steered his boat down the Ribble all nice and serene ,and now he’s in the Irish Sea he ain’t got a clue

Westleigh wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:14 pm

He’s like a captain that’s just steered his boat down the Ribble all nice and serene ,and now he’s in the Irish Sea he ain’t got a clue

Ha, quite like this analogy.

He's replaced or lost his key crew members too.

His words are beginning to sound hollow. It’s alright being calm but he acts as if there is no pressure at all in the job but there should be.

So you would prefer to see the 'captain of the ship' panic a little?

Or a lot?

Was he asked about the delay in introducing attacking substitutes in the second half?

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:40 pm

Was he asked about the delay in introducing attacking substitutes in the second half?

They’re completely in awe, he never gets asked a difficult question.

I've not watched it but I thought he came across ok and talked a lot of sense

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:40 pm

Was he asked about the delay in introducing attacking substitutes in the second half?

That was strange at 2-0 down. Benson looked much better than JBL when he came on. I think we might’ve nicked one if he’d played more of the second.

I feel for him tbh because no board is going to allow this to go on forever.

ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 11:42 pm

I feel for him tbh because no board is going to allow this to go on forever.

A board that can't afford to sack him has no other choice than let this go on especially when the support are ok with the idea of getting relegated & go again at promotion next season.

Klueless. We need rid. What a disaster he is being for our club. Candidate for worst manager ever.

My 7 year old would have done a better job on the tactics tonight.

BobSykes wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:50 am

Klueless. We need rid. What a disaster he is being for our club. Candidate for worst manager ever.

My 7 year old would have done a better job on the tactics tonight.

Classic Sykesy

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:43 pm

They’re completely in awe, he never gets asked a difficult question.

They're in awe of Trafford too.....he's the heir apparent to pickford according to the comms today

I know i'm hard on Trafford & he may get better, but his kicking is awful & set-pieces are a disaster at the moment.
Time to give Muric a shot.....how much worse could it be?

Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:37 pm

So you would prefer to see the 'captain of the ship' panic a little?

Heading straight for the iceberg isn’t working. I’d like him to try a slightly different course.

Where's all the happy clappers gone with the just wait until it clicks nonsense?

BobSykes wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:50 am

Klueless. We need rid. What a disaster he is being for our club. Candidate for worst manager ever.

My 7 year old would have done a better job on the tactics tonight.

wtf?

This madness aside, I am not sure what else you want him to say in an interview? He believes in himself and his project, so he is hardly going to shoot himself in the foot. I know it's getting tedious, but I think all this is going to be good for him and us in the long run, after so much success last season he will learn an incredible amount from all this and he is a very astute man. The problem is now the squad he has, which I believe he has realised isn;t ready for this step up.

Just wait until it clicks. When it does it won't be because VK has changed much, it will be because the players will have improved and performed better.
If it doesn't click soon enough and we are relegated, we start again, just like any relegated team/club. Leicester, Leeds and Southampton seem to all be having good campaigns this season. Their supporters are watching them win games. Every season the 3 weakest teams are relegated. Life goes on. We get to fight/play another day. Maybe Burnley will be a yo-yo club until they become an established premier league club. Can a club the size of Burnley ever become an established premier league club?

Goliath wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:53 pm

Ah yes thats what we want, players ignoring the managers instructions and doing what they want.
In fact its all irrational waffle

Following him to the letter is working I see.

Is it not obvious that the plan is to take good players, make them noticed in the PL, then sell on at a profit? The board probably backed Kompany as long as he agreed to play these players. So the board are not going to sack him. Also who would they want as manager if we go down?

bumba wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:42 am

Where's all the happy clappers gone with the just wait until it clicks nonsense?

Still following Mr Dyche around with their tongues out..

Let’s be honest VK is just a bad manager at this level.

He’s just miles out of his depth. He should have been sacked weeks ago but it looks like Pace wants to sink the ship with its captain.

Oh well hopefully he can get us up next year. Another year of crappy championship

I truely despair at this board and a lot of fans this season.

Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:23 am

Just wait until it clicks. When it does it won't be because VK has changed much, it will be because the players will have improved and performed better.

Sounds just like what VK said after the opening game against City
We are now playing sides inferior to City and our performances have arguably gone backwards

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:12 am

I truely despair at this board and a lot of fans this season.

I really don’t get this?

What do you despair at? We are literally abysmal. Fans should be allowed to air there grievances, as long as it doesn’t happen on the turf.

VK is miles out his depth it just a fact.

This way (Yes, VK's) of doing it has a much higher ceiling than the approach we had with Dyche.

The difference is it takes TIME. Dyche had to get results there and then, which he generally did - VK is building something.

We have the best young manager around, some amazing young talent and a model which will serve us extremely well in the future.

Go and choose a team that's going to chase immediate results and moan about whatever you can there will you?

We should ALL be fully behind VK and this project and that includes having patience!

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:13 am

I really don’t get this?

What do you despair at? We are literally abysmal. Fans should be allowed to air there grievances, as long as it doesn’t happen on the turf.

VK is miles out his depth it just a fact.

The despair I imagine is at the lack of patience, realisim and inability to see the bigger picture.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:12 am

I truely despair at this board and a lot of fans this season.

I’ve found it much better since discovering the Foe button.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:20 am

The despair I imagine is at the lack of patience, realisim and inability to see the bigger picture.

What is the bigger picture?

I just can’t see it, VK is so far out his depth. Literally everything he does is wrong.

Are we just hoping that he develops into a good manager at this level?

The bigger picture is the fact (IMO) that we have people who have the POTENTIAL of playing, managing, and coaching at the very top of the game

We are simply in a period of time where more or less all of these people aren't quite there yet. Which SHOULD be fine if people see the bigger picture, which is that of the club being a real playing force on the pitch. Not today, but soon.

These people need the fans behind them

"we still managed to create chances"

Not particularly. 0.9 xG at home, compared to 1.5 xg for Everton. They had the better chances and deserved to win.

"the game was decided by the set plays"

And the first set play came after we gave the ball away playing out from the back. Again.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:30 am

What is the bigger picture?

I just can’t see it, VK is so far out his depth. Literally everything he does is wrong.

Are we just hoping that he develops into a good manager at this level?

The bigger picture is that he's a young manager who did brilliantly last season with plenty of scope for improvement in an unforgiving league. He exceeded expectations last season considerably, but so far this season he's underachieved, although realistically, it was always going to be tough. He deserves time and support.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:40 am

The bigger picture is that he's a young manager who did brilliantly last season with plenty of scope for improvement in an unforgiving league. He exceeded expectations last season considerably, but so far this season he's underachieved, although realistically, it was always going to be tough. He deserves time and support.

Like you say, the Premier League is a unforgiving League and history suggests managers don't always get the time to develop their teams. Here at Burnley we tend to stand by our managers......but who knows with our new owners.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:40 am

The bigger picture is that he's a young manager who did brilliantly last season with plenty of scope for improvement in an unforgiving league. He exceeded expectations last season considerably, but so far this season he's underachieved, although realistically, it was always going to be tough. He deserves time and support.

How did he exceed expectations considerably?

We spent the most and just had 6 years in the prem.

GavlarClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:35 am

The bigger picture is the fact (IMO) that we have people who have the POTENTIAL of playing, managing, and coaching at the very top of the game

We are simply in a period of time where more or less all of these people aren't quite there yet. Which SHOULD be fine if people see the bigger picture, which is that of the club being a real playing force on the pitch. Not today, but soon.

These people need the fans behind them

This is highest level VK will ever manage.

Let’s be honest he’s just Frank Lampard 2.0

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:46 am

How did he exceed expectations considerably?

We spent the most and just had 6 years in the prem.

Most sensible people, without the benefit of hindsight, didn't expect us to smash the league in the way we did, especially after such a huge turnover of our squad.

MACCA wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:03 am

Still following Mr Dyche around with their tongues out..

Couldn't blame them let's be honest Dyche has his team playing better football than us even playing out from the back successfully, we've a coach who it is apparently his style but cannot coach his team to do it

GavlarClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:35 am

The bigger picture is the fact (IMO) that we have people who have the POTENTIAL of playing, managing, and coaching at the very top of the game

We are simply in a period of time where more or less all of these people aren't quite there yet. Which SHOULD be fine if people see the bigger picture, which is that of the club being a real playing force on the pitch. Not today, but soon.

These people need the fans behind them

Yes and when they are ready they won't be playing for Burnley Football Club and there lies the problem. Any decent player will be sold in the summer and we'll be on another rebuild for next season, that's the bigger picture.
How many from abroad will jump at the chance to come and play for us in the championship next season knowing upon promotion they'll be sat on the sidelines?
I don't understand how you can believe a team that has lost 13 in 17 league games is suddenly going to become a 'force'

bumba wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:52 am

Yes and when they are ready they won't be playing for Burnley Football Club and there lies the problem. Any decent player will be sold in the summer and we'll be on another rebuild for next season, that's the bigger picture.
How many from abroad will jump at the chance to come and play for us in the championship next season knowing upon promotion they'll be sat on the sidelines?
I don't understand how you can believe a team that has lost 13 in 17 league games is suddenly going to become a 'force'

It’s called delusion.

If his name wasn’t Vincent Kompany no would be suggesting the above.

The better argument here is who is better Brian Laws or VK

Re the specific point regarding post match interviews Kompany has had an easy ride so far from the interviewers. He’s asked to give his thoughts but there is no penetrating follow up. His analysis seemed to be that we didn’t defend set pieces and didn’t take our chances. The MOTD graphic showed that Everton are top of the shop at goals from set pieces. So it would be nice to know if we prepared for them and if so why the plans didn’t work.

Another more searching question might be why we have not managed to gain a single point after going a goal down and why we have equalised only once. To me it looks like the players threw in the towel yesterday in the first half with no response to the goals and were also completely tactically outmanoeuvred by Everton.

bumba wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:49 am

Couldn't blame them let's be honest Dyche has his team playing better football than us even playing out from the back successfully, we've a coach who it is apparently his style but cannot coach his team to do it

Better players/teams usually beat weaker ones.
Although if you work harder and fight you can sometimes bloody the odd nose. We are neither.

I don't get the argument Everton are a average side, even with 4 key players out, every single one of their starting 11 from yesterday gets in ours.

And it's always a good sign/luxury to have a 50m striker on the bench, not many PL sides have those.

Everton are like most seasons one of the best of the rest, this season is no different

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:57 am

It’s called delusion.

If his name wasn’t Vincent Kompany no would be suggesting the above.

The better argument here is who is better Brian Laws or VK

The happy clappers will tell you it's all down to the change in the league in the last 12 months and that there's nothing more VK can do