And replace him with Nuno.

It's so frustrating we've made such a balls up of this season. We should have been well capable of finishing above Sheff U, Luton and Forest.
I can see Nuno being a disaster there with the fans against him from the start.

Just another thing working in our favour but we never capitalise

that will completely turn the Forest fan base and make it very toxic there unless Nuno wins immediately

If we had it in us to compete this news would be very favourable. I cannot see that appointment being successful.

Cooper moved on No doubt he will get picked up soon.He has a good following in managerial circles who for some reason rate him highly
Obviously, the Greek owners at Forest don't.

claretandy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:23 pm

And replace him with Nuno.

Crap appointment but if they get even a slight new mansger bounce with 2 quick wins then thats us done.

If we assume we can beat them on the last day, then we are only 3 points behind but they really are our only hope now.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:29 pm

that will completely turn the Forest fan base and make it very toxic there unless Nuno wins immediately

Could not agree more, there seems to be very little hunger for a change in the stands. What Cooper has done with Notts Forest since he got there is why the barmy owner now thinks they should be doing better. It will take Forest from having a bad run to genuine relegation candidates should Nino not enjoy an extended bounce.

Confirmed on BBC sport.
Agreed that it wont go down particularly well with the fans. Weren't they chanting his name last home game?

Mind you, if Nuno starts (and keeps on) winning games, they'll probably come round....

Cooper won’t be out of a job for long

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:37 pm

Cooper won’t be out of a job for long

Thats for sure. He'll be fixed up soon.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:35 pm

Crap appointment but if they get even a slight new mansger bounce with 2 quick wins then thats us done.

If we assume we can beat them on the last day, then we are only 3 points behind but they really are our only hope now.

We have only got two hopes left. Bob Hope and no hope. We are done already.

I love the notion that the going ons at other clubs will somehow benefit us when we’ve won 2 games all season!!

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:07 pm

We have only got two hopes left. Bob Hope and no hope. We are done already.

We factually aren't though are we? If we can get 2 wins from the next 5 and maybe get some reinforcements in Jan. Then wed just have to match Forest for the rest of the season and beat them on the last day.

I don't have much confidence of that happening but its very doable

I really like Cooper, seems like a genuine guy and I've never heard a bad word about him by any past or current player.

Can’t help thinking this is a poor decision.
Clearly a good manager and as others have said. He will have plenty of suitors.
He was one of my preferred options in the past. And possibly in the near future !

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:12 pm

I really like Cooper, seems like a genuine guy and I've never heard a bad word about him by any past or current player.

Potential replacement for Vincent if results don’t pick up this month?

Goliath wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:12 pm

We factually aren't though are we? If we can get 2 wins from the next 5 and maybe get some reinforcements in Jan. Then wed just have to match Forest for the rest of the season and beat them on the last day.

I don't have much confidence of that happening but its very doable

It isnt do able. Come on, wake up and smell the coffee. And what reinforcements will he sign in January? More wingers?
I wouldn’t let him waste another pound note on “potential”.

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:24 pm

Potential replacement for Vincent if results don’t pick up this month?

I would have him. Kompany isn’t getting potted though, we couldn’t afford the compo after all the money he has wasted.

I think it’s a poor decision by Forest. Not sure that we are in any position to profit, should the new manager do any worse.
And, FWIW, I don’t think Nino is that good a manager. Didn’t he recently get sacked by one of those identikit Saudi teams?

Forest have only one more point then at this stage last season. It's only that the bottom three this year look so out of touch that they seem safer. Considering all he's spent in the last two seasons (nearly £200 million including around £50 million back in for the sale of Brennan Johnson) I can see why their Board expect better.

Panic or not, it's clear that Forrest do not have relegation as part of their future plans
That's not a criticism of any thoughts from Pace and Co, just a consequence of their previous substantial outlay on transfer fees and wages that would no doubt be unsustainable in the Championship
Timing seems right to give the new manager chance to look at the current squad and add any players he wants in January
Whoever the new manager is, he will then have a chance to likely bring about some improvement in current results
Not the best news for us

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:31 pm

I would have him. Kompany isn’t getting potted though, we couldn’t afford the compo after all the money he has wasted.

why would you have Cooper ?

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:22 pm

why would you have Cooper ?

He’s a considerably better manager?

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:24 pm

Potential replacement for Vincent if results don’t pick up this month?

I honestly think if we hire Cooper in the next few weeks he cups us up.

He’s a great manager. Think he would also appeal to Pace (he has a record of working with younger players)

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:36 pm

He’s a considerably better manager?

let's look at those facts
Did he walk the championship ? Nope
He's spent over 250 million quid more than we have to have Forest a couple of places above our squad that's full of young inexperienced players. What exactly is it you are so sure of that makes him a better manager than Kompany (or any other unemployed manager that's spent 350+ million in 2 seasons)

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:43 pm

let's look at those facts
Did he walk the championship ? Nope
He's spent over 250 million quid more than we have to have Forest a couple of places above our squad that's full of young inexperienced players. What exactly is it you are so sure he's better at than Kompany (or any other unemployed manager that's spent 350+ million in 2 seasons) ?

Come on Vegas you’re doing him a massive injustice.

He won the u17 World Cup (better than anything VK has ever done as a manager).

He took over Forest when they were BOTTOM of the championship in October, he managed to turn them around and got them promoted the same season. (That is remarkable however you try and spin it).

His first season in the premier league he kept them up with 38 points. As a direct comparison to VK, his squad was at a considerably lower starting point and he managed to keep them up.

This season he also has a considerably better record than VK.

He’s an excellent manager that Pace should rightly be looking into.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:48 pm

Come on Vegas you’re doing him a massive injustice.

He won the u17 World Cup (better than anything VK has ever done as a manager).

He took over Forest when they were BOTTOM of the championship in October, he managed to turn them around and got them promoted the same season. (That is remarkable however you try and spin it).

His first season in the premier league he kept them up with 38 points. As a direct comparison to VK, his squad was at a considerably lower starting point and he managed to keep them up.

This season he also has a considerably better record than VK.

He’s an excellent manager that Pace should rightly be looking into.

huh, first season he spent something like 170 million and signed 16 players. Don't get me wrong, not saying he isn't a decent manager, he obviously is. I just don't think he's some prophet that some are making him out to be at all. Forest have a miles better squad than we have and yet we've beaten them once and it should have been twice.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:55 pm

huh, first season he spent something like 170 million and signed 16 players. Don't get me wrong, not saying he isn't a decent manager, he obviously is. I just don't think he's some prophet that some are making him out to be at all. Forest have a miles better squad than we have and yet we've beaten them once and it should have been twice.

He had to, he took a squad from bottom of the championship to the premier league in 7 months.

Imagine VK going to Rotherham in October just gone and getting them promoted.

Off course he would then have to spend that crazy amount.

It’s not like cooper got promoted with a team that just spent the last 6 years in the prem, then spent the most in the league that summer.

The owner is gambling on Nuno beating Bournemouth at home on Saturday, it is late February the next time I have Forest as favourite for a win. They’ve already had a lot of winnable home games. Whereas we have only had Palace and Sheff Utd if we count Everton as top half without the -10 pts.

(My post is about Forest not Burnley but we need to keep players fit and sign a couple of big additions in January if we are to have a chance at catching them - the fit players for our first 4 months wouldn’t manage it of course)

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:31 pm

I would have him. Kompany isn’t getting potted though, we couldn’t afford the compo after all the money he has wasted.

Wait until you find out how much Cooper has wasted over the last two years.

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:49 pm

Wait until you find out how much Cooper has wasted over the last two years.

I already know. But if Forest don’t, and they won’t, be relegated it isn’t as bad. We have wasted it and are going down.

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:37 pm

Cooper won’t be out of a job for long

Palace.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:12 pm

We factually aren't though are we? If we can get 2 wins from the next 5 and maybe get some reinforcements in Jan. Then wed just have to match Forest for the rest of the season and beat them on the last day.

I don't have much confidence of that happening but its very doable

2 wins out of the next 5, when we've only got 2 out of 17 ? I'll have 3 pints of what you're drinking please.

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:00 pm

I already know. But if Forest don’t, and they won’t, be relegated it isn’t as bad. We have wasted it and are going down.

There’s over half a season left. Forest’s form is currently worse than ours, would you believe. It’s interesting you’re still willing to give Cooper a pass despite the eye watering sums he’s spent, and so easily willing to write us off.

AmbleClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:30 pm

2 wins out of the next 5, when we've only got 2 out of 17 ? I'll have 3 pints of what you're drinking please.

I think you missed the word 'if' from my comment.
Luton at home is one of the 5 which is clearly very winnable, that leaves 1 more unlikely win out of the other 4. Difficult but it really isnt impossible, especially over christmas where strange results get chucked out.

You do realise that just because weve won 2 in 17 it doesnt mean we cant go on a better run, theres countless examples every season.
I distinctly remember Cotterill not winning in about 19 games and then all of a sudden going on a much better run or Forest going on a great run last season. Leicester under Pearson etc. Im guessing their players didnt have the same depressing, negative mentality as a lot of 'supporters' on here

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:58 pm

He had to, he took a squad from bottom of the championship to the premier league in 7 months.

Imagine VK going to Rotherham in October just gone and getting them promoted.

Off course he would then have to spend that crazy amount.

It’s not like cooper got promoted with a team that just spent the last 6 years in the prem, then spent the most in the league that summer.

fair point but he's still spent 350-400 million (whatever it is) and we were better than them both times we played them this season

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 11:34 pm

There’s over half a season left. Forest’s form is currently worse than ours, would you believe. It’s interesting you’re still willing to give Cooper a pass despite the eye watering sums he’s spent, and so easily willing to write us off.

The majority of that money was spent without Cooper’s knowledge. He didn’t choose those players, the Director of Football did. Check the facts.

Here are all these players....get on with it.

And he did!

Unlucky.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:43 pm

let's look at those facts
Did he walk the championship ? Nope
He's spent over 250 million quid more than we have to have Forest a couple of places above our squad that's full of young inexperienced players. What exactly is it you are so sure of that makes him a better manager than Kompany (or any other unemployed manager that's spent 350+ million in 2 seasons)

I don't want Cooper but he took over Forest who were bottom of the Champ at the end of September 2021 and got them promoted via the playoffs.

Bit of a basket case chairman as well, thrusting signings on him.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 20, 2023 2:17 pm

I don't want Cooper but he took over Forest who were bottom of the Champ at the end of September 2021 and got them promoted via the playoffs.

Bit of a basket case chairman as well, thrusting signings on him.

yep, like I said further up though, we've played them twice and were better than them twice and when you consider how awful we've been.......

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:49 am

fair point but he's still spent 350-400 million (whatever it is) and we were better than them both times we played them this season

I would not be so sure Cooper was spending that money, more dealing with what arrived is my guess.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:15 pm

I would not be so sure Cooper was spending that money, more dealing with what arrived is my guess.

have a look at this squad............
https://www.nottinghamforest.co.uk/teams/

They have a director of football that spends most of the money. Hence the crazy amount of signings not made by Cooper.