ARTICLE: Teasdale Out

[elwaclaret]

He had “so called “ fans deliberately block up his gas flu outside his home in an attempt to poison him!

No wonder he worried!

Sadly, that does not surprise me. There were some pretty toxic times. The younger fans yawn when people mention “Orient game”, but it is used as shorthand for when everything at Burnley football club was on the brink, and the fans were bloody angry that they were losing their club.

[Wokingclaret]

Teasdale stayed too long, without Kilby and Ingleby coming on board, we were heading for the 4th tier again

[elwaclaret]

Teasdale stayed too long, without Kilby and Ingleby coming on board, we were heading for the 4th tier again

That assumes anyone else wanted it. Several big shots had stuck their heads up… not one of them was a serious option. That is why Ray Ingleby was welcomed like a saviour, even before he joined the club… he was the first of the credible investors to come forward publicly.

Football was an attractive business only to fans, Burnley were struggling to find 2,000 some weeks at home and not many of them could afford it.

[ClaretTony]

Whatever the origins, Frank acted in the best interests of the Club thereafter.

Teasdale In!

If you say so but I can guarantee that there are people who were a lot closer to you who would say otherwise. And if you believe telling lies to shareholders at an AGM is acting in the best interests of the club then you standards are very different than mine.

[chipbutty]

I'll end this because I know totally different to you - I certainly don't know about some of the stuff you know about but I think you are so far off track with the 'fully engaged with Barry' suggestion.

So, basically, it's what you know is correct and everyone else isn't?
I just don't get you Tony.
You are such a knowledgeable guy that writes great reports with brilliant insight, but if you think you're right, then you are.

[Clive 1960]

you are all going on about the past he said this he said that whatever you can't change the past it's the present and future I'm worried about on and off the pitch...

[Nori1958]

No I’m happy enough with it, I make no reference to prison, or even stated it definitely went to court.

Orange jump suit?

[Woodleyclaret]

I was definitely in the Teasdale Out camp. Frank's stubborn stance in being unwilling to sell his shares to others held us back. Investors in football back then where are rare as rocking horse droppings and Barry Kilby undoubtedly saved us.

[sjb]

No I’m happy enough with it, I make no reference to prison, or even stated it definitely went to court.

Disingenuous in the extreme. To what were you referring when you posted that 'he may have ended up in a natty orange jump suit' following a post where you commented that he may have been prosecuted? As I said, I have no knowledge of whether Ray did fall foul of the law in the USA, but if you haven't either then why insinuate that he did?

[randomclaret2]

That assumes anyone else wanted it. Several big shots had stuck their heads up… not one of them was a serious option. That is why Ray Ingleby was welcomed like a saviour, even before he joined the club… he was the first of the credible investors to come forward publicly.

Football was an attractive business only to fans, Burnley were struggling to find 2,000 some weeks at home and not many of them could afford it.

The days of 2,000 gates were 1986/7...these events were 12 or so years later

[Jamesy]

That assumes anyone else wanted it. Several big shots had stuck their heads up… not one of them was a serious option. That is why Ray Ingleby was welcomed like a saviour, even before he joined the club… he was the first of the credible investors to come forward publicly.

Football was an attractive business only to fans, Burnley were struggling to find 2,000 some weeks at home and not many of them could afford it.

In those days you wouldn’t have even known there was a match on at the Turf unless you were actually in or very near the ground.
You are correct about the 2,000 gates and only a two or three hundred of us at away games.

[mybloodisclaret]

I remember it as a stressful time for the club. I was only 15/16 back then, and the only news I got was in the Evening Telegraph, what seemed like daily.

My word we needed a change of Chair. We were stagnating badly. As one poster said, it was like the sun was shining on Turf Moor again when Teasdale left.

I think he did his best, but it needed to change, so glad when it did.

[Clovius Boofus]

Sadly, that does not surprise me. There were some pretty toxic times. The younger fans yawn when people mention “Orient game”, but it is used as shorthand for when everything at Burnley football club was on the brink, and the fans were bloody angry that they were losing their club.

The utility companies were set to cut their services off if we went down. Also, other debts hadn't been paid in ages and court orders were in the process. At least this is what I was told from a very good source.

We'd have gone bust. Yes, we would have come back in some form or other, of which there is no doubt, but we'd probably be going to Turf Moor for our weekly supermarket shop, rather than football.

[Croydon Claret]

I was in hospitality for one of the matches. In the Bob Lord stand of course as the Bee Hole end wasn't known for its gourmet lunches at the time.

Afterwards I opened the curtains onto Brunshaw Rd to be faced with a baying mob gesticulating at me

Quickly closed said curtains and skulked back to my table

[elwaclaret]

The days of 2,000 gates were 1986/7...these events were 12 or so years later

No the club was still dealing with the legacy of those days, and a lot of anti-board sentiments arched back over many years.

[Clovius Boofus]

I was in hospitality for one of the matches. In the Bob Lord stand of course as the Bee Hole end wasn't known for its gourmet lunches at the time.

Afterwards I opened the curtains onto Brunshaw Rd to be faced with a baying mob gesticulating at me

Quickly closed said curtains and skulked back to my table

I think I was there on Brunshaw Rd. Probably 1990 and three or four hundred of us. IIRC, people chanted 'Casper Out, Teasdale Out' for half an hour or so.

[elwaclaret]

Disingenuous in the extreme. To what were you referring when you posted that 'he may have ended up in a natty orange jump suit' following a post where you commented that he may have been prosecuted? As I said, I have no knowledge of whether Ray did fall foul of the law in the USA, but if you haven't either then why insinuate that he did?

Because I do have memory of it, it has just faded how far it went after so many years. And the ‘orange’ was a throwaway comment in response to a joke comment. I have been reasonable in my responses to you but you seem to want to make an issue about something you have admitted twice you have no knowledge of. I am now bored of you attempts to institute a slanging match, and won’t be replying to you about it again.

[bfcjg]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... third-man/
Some of the shenanigans at the time.

[elwaclaret]

Orange jump suit?

It was perhaps an ill advised jokey reaction, but it is not uncommon for CEO’s of US bankruptcy’s to be dragged through the courts, pretty certain that happened to Ray from press reports at the time. Nothing nasty, I made no judgement on him or his business activities.

[bfcjg]

Still waiting for yhe cash incidentally.
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... ale-talks/
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... justified/

[Croydon Claret]

I think I was there on Brunshaw Rd. Probably 1990 and three or four hundred of us. IIRC, people chanted 'Casper Out, Teasdale Out' for half an hour or so.

You ruined my enjoyment of the pea soup

[elwaclaret]

So, basically, it's what you know is correct and everyone else isn't?
I just don't get you Tony.
You are such a knowledgeable guy that writes great reports with brilliant insight, but if you think you're right, then you are.

To be fair I knew Tony quite well in those days, and until the former messageboard (not necessarily his posts and years later) ran foul of the club Tony was was extremely well connected within the club. While I was at the level of sitting with Roy Oldfield for a brew and chat, it was not unusual to see CT in conversation with one director or another.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I think I was there on Brunshaw Rd. Probably 1990 and three or four hundred of us. IIRC, people chanted 'Casper Out, Teasdale Out' for half an hour or so.

That was a regular occurrence from memory! Remember one game towards end of a season where we were beaten by I think Scarborough and there was an attempt to charge through the club main entrance!

Teasdale hung on for far too long.

By all accounts very charitable with players in terms of treating them to slap up meals and drinks!

[Burnley Ace]

I asked him if he wanted to sell his shares to me in 1997, I think I offered him £60 a share! How times have changed!

[Casper2]

So, basically, it's what you know is correct and everyone else isn't?
I just don't get you Tony.
You are such a knowledgeable guy that writes great reports with brilliant insight, but if you think you're right, then you are.

Don’t we all think we are right , when we think we are right , otherwise we would think we were wrong

[chipbutty]

To be fair I knew Tony quite well in those days, and until the former messageboard (not necessarily his posts and years later) ran foul of the club Tony was was extremely well connected within the club. While I was at the level of sitting with Roy Oldfield for a brew and chat, it was not unusual to see CT in conversation with one director or another.

If you've been to Tenerife, then Tony's been to Elevenerife

[forzagranata]

I must admit I did chuckle when watching some old video and Teasdale said that there were children who had grown up in Burnley thinking the club's chairman was called Frank Teasdaleout.

But the phrase he'll forever be associated with in mind was when he was asked about spending for transfers and said "Well, we can have a kitty"