This kid is gonna be mustard.

That is all.

He can finish thats for sure

I’ve said for a while, I think he’s the one who we can get the most money from. Even if we go down, I think we could potentially keep him and a year tearing up the championship may be good for him.

Just turned 19, 4 goals in 6 starts?

Yet he was being written off on here as not needed and a waste of money, given absolutely zero time to adapt and develop by people on here who want everything immediately.

Give this boy (and many of the others) and he’s gonna be some player. This team is improving, Everton game aside.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:36 am

Just turned 19, 4 goals in 6 starts?

Yet he was being written off on here as not needed and a waste of money, given absolutely zero time to adapt and develop by people on here who want everything immediately.

Give this boy (and many of the others) and he’s gonna be some player. This team is improving, Everton game aside.

Totally agree with this. Some of our fans are very quick to judge, without looking at the complete picture.

He looks one hell of a player.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:36 am

Just turned 19, 4 goals in 6 starts?

Yet he was being written off on here as not needed and a waste of money, given absolutely zero time to adapt and develop by people on here who want everything immediately.

Give this boy (and many of the others) and he’s gonna be some player. This team is improving, Everton game aside.

you only have to look how long it's taken for Dominic Solanke to figure it out, people are so impatient nowadays, symptom of society.

Looks a really good player

I can’t quite pick his style. All I know is he has a wand of a foot

How much did we pay for him?

TPClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:44 am

How much did we pay for him?

Suggestion is an initial £9m which could rise to £14-15m depending on bonus clauses being met.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:36 am

Just turned 19, 4 goals in 6 starts?

Yet he was being written off on here as not needed and a waste of money, given absolutely zero time to adapt and develop by people on here who want everything immediately.

Give this boy (and many of the others) and he’s gonna be some player. This team is improving, Everton game aside.

We bought a lot of excellent individual talent in the summer, but we've really struggled to make it a team.
It takes time obviously, but I still think we made too many changes to last seasons team, too early.
We have picked up a lot lately, but those wasted points against Palace and West Ham could end up being so costly.
It's just nice to think of football with a smile on my face, there has been very little of that this season.

clive40golf wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:04 am

Totally agree with this. Some of our fans are very quick to judge, without looking at the complete picture.

The OP wanted to hook him at HT.

Reminder to all fans that mercurial talent needs to be on the pitch to produce and develop.

What it does show is those that’ve said we’ve wasted money in the summer and that we won’t be able to sell them for what we paid is completely wrong. We’ll make massive profits on most, if not all. We may go down but there is no need to worry financially.

Is he the 100m player?

All the young uns we need to keep for at least another season, you all know how players at that age develop at different rates, especially when they've moved to a new country.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:36 am

Just turned 19, 4 goals in 6 starts?

Yet he was being written off on here as not needed and a waste of money, given absolutely zero time to adapt and develop by people on here who want everything immediately.

Give this boy (and many of the others) and he’s gonna be some player. This team is improving, Everton game aside.

This. I think the most talented is Tresor

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:36 am

Just turned 19, 4 goals in 6 starts?

Yet he was being written off on here as not needed and a waste of money, given absolutely zero time to adapt and develop by people on here who want everything immediately.

Give this boy (and many of the others) and he’s gonna be some player. This team is improving, Everton game aside.

Christ almighty way to turn a positive thread into a slanging match!

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:21 am

The OP wanted to hook him at HT.

Reminder to all fans that mercurial talent needs to be on the pitch to produce and develop.

What it does show is those that’ve said we’ve wasted money in the summer and that we won’t be able to sell them for what we paid is completely wrong. We’ll make massive profits on most, if not all. We may go down but there is no need to worry financially.

This is a thread giving praise to a promising player - it doesn't take away from anything else like the fact that to make large changes to a team and try to get it to click in the PL can end up in disaster, or having a lopsided squad is daft; we're just lucky that another 3 teams in this league are really **** this season.

Never had an issue with signing a few youngsters and slowly bedding them in.

You can play 'gotcha' if/when we are out of the relegation zone and put on regular competitive performances.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:54 am

This is a thread giving praise to a promising player - it doesn't take away from anything else like the fact that to make large changes to a team and try to get it to click in the PL can end up in disaster, or having a lopsided squad is daft; we're just lucky that another 3 teams in this league are really **** this season.

Never had an issue with signing a few youngsters and slowly bedding them in.

You can play 'gotcha' if/when we are out of the relegation zone and put on regular competitive performances.

Imagine when fit if we had Odobert and Koleosho on either wing.

He doesn't score crap goals that's for sure.

Carwin261 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:18 am

Imagine when fit if we had Odobert and Koleosho on either wing.

Bags of potential!
Just wondering if their best position is both in the left wing spot?

Have a bit to learn in game management and going the other way but yep, very talented.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:20 am

you only have to look how long it's taken for Dominic Solanke to figure it out, people are so impatient nowadays, symptom of society.

... and Bowen and Watkins. But some don't progress - Adams, Maupay perhaps. This is why it's an outrageous gamble having more than half a team (we had seven in our starting eleven yesterday) of no Premier League experience and expecting them to compete.

Bet he struggles pulling birds.

Lovely goal, the lad can certainly finish.

Interesting to see he turned down a contract at psg to move to troye for first team football

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:05 am

Lovely goal, the lad can certainly finish.

Interesting to see he turned down a contract at psg to move to troye for first team football

I said the same in a few WhatsApp’s when I read that - sign of a good character and a lad hungry for football.

Keep it up Wilson!

IF we stay up and keep our brilliant young players, watch us go next season

One interesting thing I hadn’t realised is that Troyes are in the City Group of clubs.

I wonder if Kompany was recommended to buy him due to his potential due to that avenue?

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:45 am

One interesting thing I hadn’t realised is that Troyes are in the City Group of clubs.

I wonder if Kompany was recommended to buy him due to his potential due to that avenue?

I think he would've been on the radar yes - I noted this earlier as well, along with the other player we were linked with, 'Mama Balde'

I've watched the goal over and over, what a strike!

Lovely goal! Good footballer and only just turned 19. He’s taking his chance. Well done him!

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:45 am

One interesting thing I hadn’t realised is that Troyes are in the City Group of clubs.

I wonder if Kompany was recommended to buy him due to his potential due to that avenue?

Its this kind of thing that i was getting at in another thread about about our scouting. Kompany will have so many contacts within the game that he probably feels us having a few scouts going to random games around the world isnt going to worthwile when he can get information from his own networks.
The problem is that when he leaves it sounds like we are going to be left without much of a scouting network

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:20 am

you only have to look how long it's taken for Dominic Solanke to figure it out, people are so impatient nowadays, symptom of society.

I remember I was absolutely hammered on here because I was a huge fan of the Solanke signing. I think he’s a really good player, has abit of everything.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:48 am

Christ almighty way to turn a positive thread into a slanging match!

My intention wasn’t to create a slanging match just a call for patience with this team and manager from certain posters on here. Wilson turned 19 a few weeks ago, an unbelievable talent and should be supported fully by the fans.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:30 pm

My intention wasn’t to create a slanging match just a call for patience with this team and manager from certain posters on here. Wilson turned 19 a few weeks ago, an unbelievable talent and should be supported fully by the fans.

Can question some of the gaffers decisions whilst supporting the players! Not mutually exclusive. Can’t see any/many that wrote Odebert off anyway?

I like him - I liked how he chose to sign for Troyes as well for football when he could’ve easily signed a new deal for PSG and sat in their reserves for 4/5 yr

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:24 am

I said the same in a few WhatsApp’s when I read that - sign of a good character and a lad hungry for football.

Keep it up Wilson!

As sad as the Kolo injury was it has made VK play Odobert in his favoured position so it might be a blessing in disguise, all his goals so far have been excellent.

If we could just play more direct to the wingers we could be onto something.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:33 pm

Can question some of the gaffers decisions whilst supporting the players! Not mutually exclusive. Can’t see any/many that wrote Odebert off anyway?

I like him - I liked how he chose to sign for Troyes as well for football when he could’ve easily signed a new deal for PSG and sat in their reserves for 4/5 yr

I have no issue with your posts, it’s all about opinions and you’re always constructive with it. I’d like to think I was the same under Dyche

There were times, KRB, where that definitely wasn't the case but, fair dos, it's a new era.

Players go through phases of blamming them in from 25 yards. Cornet had a good spell a couple of years ago. Cornet's current market value if the web sites are to be believed is less than we paid for him.

Unless I'm mistaken two of the three wingers who played yesterday are on loan.

But the point is, his forward play wasn't particularly impressive other than the goal. Did we really create that much...? Probably not...!

In truth, the more impressive part was that he played his part in a midfield four against a decent midfield 5, which after Bruun Larrsen went off controlled the midfield and the tempo of the game pretty well. I was pretty impressed with Odobert from that perspective.

Odobert, Tresor, Foster & Koleosho is a front 4 to get excited about.

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:34 pm

Odobert, Tresor, Foster & Koleosho is a front 4 to get excited about.

Blimey!

Odebert is going to be very very good for us….I also think Obefemi should get more game time.

Goliath wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:04 pm

Its this kind of thing that i was getting at in another thread about about our scouting. Kompany will have so many contacts within the game that he probably feels us having a few scouts going to random games around the world isnt going to worthwile when he can get information from his own networks.
The problem is that when he leaves it sounds like we are going to be left without much of a scouting network

Don't forget we also use the owner's AI Scout tool to create a list of potential targets who have positive value enhancement numbers. I suspect this is the list that Kompany is allowed to choose from

He is certainly our new Cornet, so far. He can shoot, which is a rarity in our team.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:00 am

He is certainly our new Cornet, so far. He can shoot, which is a rarity in our team.

No Ian they can all shoot, it's just the accuracy that's a bit of a problem

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:50 am

No Ian they can all shoot, it's just the accuracy that's a bit of a problem

Not convinced! They all 'avoid' and Koleosho has no concept! Dribble and beat men but must pass!

I wasn't at the game, couldn't watch it but still felt bloody sick last night. As said by a fellow Claret on the Fofana signing thread, we could have signed Haaland and I'd still be feeling utterly depressed.

However, Wilson Odobert is a beacon of light in our sea of darkness. It's not just his cutting in and shooting.He also knows he has to get to the by-line and pull it back. He seems to be doing this more now.

We paid £10m for this lad. He's still only 19. Yes, he's intermittent but if he was pulling up trees every week, he'd be the new George Best.

He is excellent, he’s a work in progress off the ball and he’s getting better but to be 19 and producing the levels he is doing week in week out, he’s one of the ones I would be most gutted about if we have to cash in on him in the summer

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:41 pm

He is excellent, he’s a work in progress off the ball and he’s getting better but to be 19 and producing the levels he is doing week in week out, he’s one of the ones I would be most gutted about if we have to cash in on him in the summer

I read an article in the Athletic earlier about Fabio Carvalho’s loan move to Hull, and how it might be a wake up call to youngsters that it can be better to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond than vice versa at that age. He jumped ship to Liverpool and a year or so later has downgraded where he was at (Fulham) to Hull. Point being, I hope we can keep him too!

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:41 pm

He is excellent, he’s a work in progress off the ball and he’s getting better but to be 19 and producing the levels he is doing week in week out, he’s one of the ones I would be most gutted about if we have to cash in on him in the summer

He'll be off the minute relegation is confirmed sadly.
Probably one of our better sellable assets along with Foster.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:49 pm

I read an article in the Athletic earlier about Fabio Carvalho’s loan move to Hull, and how it might be a wake up call to youngsters that it can be better to be a bigger fish in a smaller pond than vice versa at that age. He jumped ship to Liverpool and a year or so later has downgraded where he was at (Fulham) to Hull. Point being, I hope we can keep him too!

Or we sell him but manage to keep him on loan for 12 months

Hes good when one on one with a full back but yesterday he proved himself as another one that doesnt want to do the hard running thats required. There was acres of space in behind their wingback for him to make runs into and offer a passing option instead hed come backwards and wait for it to come to his feet which was sometimes not on. So wed end up going back to the keeper and putting ourselves under pressure.
It made it very difficult for us to play out because we just didnt have the option in behind enough, it was pure laziness and its disappointing to see, too many in this team dont like sprinting. They jog back into position, stay in their shape, jog out to press and when we do get the ball they look for the ball to feet and offer no penetrative runs, barring Foster who works his balls off.

Someone compared him to Cornet in this thread and thats the big difference. Cornet was a natural goalscorer in that he would make those penetrative runs over and over again until he got one. If he didnt get the pass he wanted it didnt stop him, hed keep doing it. I think hed have been a good signing for us this season but that ship has sailed