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Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:18 am
by Turftalkers mentor
Ahhh dear dear Sander
A tall elegant chap , rather athletic in his physique, does a lot of running whilst on the pitch .
Probably a good type all round .
Good manners lets the opposition players have ball before him as he doesn’t want to hurt any of the chaps from the other side by putting his foot in .
The epitome of the Corinthian spirit.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:23 am
by wbfc
To me does a few good things when in the mood ...but talk of a top 6 player is way wide of the mark ...
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:26 am
by Foshiznik
Of all the players in our team, Sander Berge was one of those that i didn't expect to be dug out as a scapegoat after losing a game, given his performances compared to 95% of the other players who could have been picked.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:29 am
by what_no_pies
I suspect this hate stems from the one obvious challenge he should have made but pulled out of whilst on a yellow card and being cautious.
Been our best player so far this season.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:51 am
by wbfc
Not sure there is any criticism for his performance yesterday....in any event i did not watch it ..he may or may not be the best player this season but that probably is part of the reason why we are where we are ...
He is a bit like Paul Comstive ..admittedly at a higher level does some really nice things but not every week...
Probably has been best summer signing to make an immediate impact...but that is a low bar...
He has all the physical attributes but dies not make the best of them ...
He has improved as the season has gone on...
If he is interested next season he should be a good player in the championship next season
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:51 am
by NewClaret
Firstly, it’s Sander Berge.
I think he’s been an absolute class above. He was our best player on the pitch yesterday, I thought, although imagine Trafford’s performance caught the eye for most.
He’s playing in a pretty weak 2 man midfield, often with not much in front of him by way of support and does it brilliantly.
His awareness and reading of the game is excellent, in my opinion. He retains the ball really well given he’s often receiving or giving it in tight spaces. Passing pretty imperious, don’t recall him missing any passes.
I actually feel quite sorry for him that he’s not playing with others of similar quality because I think if he were we wouldn’t be in this position.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:53 am
by DCWat
Will be a huge miss in the next game.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:57 am
by randomclaret2
DCWat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:53 am
Will be a huge miss in the next game.
Has he had 5 League bookings ?
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:59 am
by DCWat
randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:57 am
Has he had 5 League bookings ?
I believe so
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:09 am
by NewClaret
DCWat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:59 am
I believe so
No, he’s on 4 now
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:09 am
by DCWat
NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:09 am
No, he’s on 4 now
Ah apologies - I’d received some duff info then. When is the cut off?
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:12 am
by jedi_master
We need him against Luton - can he get booked against Villa then miss Spurs in the Cup?
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:16 am
by burnleymik
I thought when he stepped it up a gear in the second half, coincided with when we suddenly started to look more dangerous. Him and Odobert were making a big impact IMO.
Oh and ffs if the guy who shouts "Go on Sandra" everytime Berge picks up the ball, is reading this, stop mate, there is only you laughing at your joke....
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:18 am
by mdd2
Yellow cards I believe are competition specific
Booked against Villa will mean he misses Luton game I think
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:22 am
by NewClaret
DCWat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:09 am
Ah apologies - I’d received some duff info then. When is the cut off?
Game week 19 I think
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:32 am
by Leon_C
But - most importantly - is it pronounced "Berg", "Burger" or "Burj"?
Asking for a friend. Who is actually me.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:36 am
by NewClaret
burnleymik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:16 am
I thought when he stepped it up a gear in the second half, coincided with when we suddenly started to look more dangerous. Him and Odobert were making a big impact IMO.
Oh and ffs if the guy who shouts "Go on Sandra" everytime Berge picks up the ball, is reading this, stop mate, there is only you laughing at your joke....
Oh dear, that’s a terrible one. Nothing worse than dad jokes at a football match.
Re: Sander Berge
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:41 am
by ClaretTony
Been in outstanding recently - and good of the OP to spell his name incorrectly
Re: Sander Berge
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:47 am
by NewClaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:41 am
Been in outstanding recently - and good of the OP to spell his name incorrectly
Really makes me wonder when our ‘fans’ can’t spell our own players names correctly.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:48 am
by roperclaret
Leon_C wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:32 am
But - most importantly - is it pronounced "Berg", "Burger" or "Burj"?
Asking for a friend. Who is actually me.
Hi Leon, I do believe he calls himself ‘Berger’
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:13 am
by Turftalkers mentor
I humbly apologise for an inadvertent typing error when mentioning Mr Berge’s name.
However the observations one made in my original missive are undoubtedly correct .
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:22 am
by Pearcey
Bizarre OP and clearly on a wind up. Sheff Utd fan maybe?
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:32 am
by NewClaret
Pearcey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:22 am
Bizarre OP and clearly on a wind up. Sheff Utd fan maybe?
I did wonder but joined in 2017 so must have a long-standing grudge against Burnley if it is. Really bizarre
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:33 am
by dandeclaret
It's class when he appears to be ambling with the ball, then you look at the opposition midfielders sprinting, and getting further away from him. Deceptively quick.... but I still struggle to see a balanced side that gets him, Amdouni, 2 wingers and a striker in.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:35 am
by ClaretTony
roperclaret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:48 am
Hi Leon, I do believe he calls himself ‘Berger’
He also uses Berj - but said that Berger is the correct pronunciation.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:46 am
by alwaysaclaret
Leon_C wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:32 am
But - most importantly - is it pronounced "Berg", "Burger" or "Burj"?
Asking for a friend. Who is actually me.
The commentary and pundits continue to think he's a burger, if they take a look at the spelling maybe they could get it right. It's spelt Berge.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:58 am
by Turftalkers mentor
Attended my first match 1958 , missed very few On’Turf since then . My allegiance is unquestionable
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:37 pm
by AlargeClaret
It’s surprising with all these wonderful players we have that we find ourselves almost cut adrift at the bottom reaches of the prem with 9? home defeats . While SB scored a great goal at Fulham and certainly has his moments ,as a prem midfielder he appears distinctly average .
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:44 pm
by roperclaret
alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:46 am
The commentary and pundits continue to think he's a burger, if they take a look at the spelling maybe they could get it right. It's spelt Berge.
Definitely a Berger, did you not watch the reveal video when he signed?
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:48 pm
by beeholeclaret
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:29 am
I suspect this hate stems from the one obvious challenge he should have made but pulled out of whilst on a yellow card and being cautious.
Been our best player so far this season.
He’s settled in well particularly in recent matches. Getting a foot in these days just gets you a yellow card if not worse.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:17 pm
by IanMcL
Leon_C wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:32 am
But - most importantly - is it pronounced "Berg", "Burger" or "Burj"?
Asking for a friend. Who is actually me.
It will be Berger but without sounding the R. So Berg_e
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:13 pm
by bobinho
Turftalkers mentor wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:58 am
Attended my first match 1958 , missed very few On’Turf since then . My allegiance is unquestionable
Your allegiance may well be, but your support isn’t….
Berge has been very good indeed. Not quite scholes or iniesta, but neither is he Comstive.
One of the first names on the team sheet.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:34 pm
by 1fatclaret
Leon_C wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:32 am
But - most importantly - is it pronounced "Berg", "Burger" or "Burj"?
Asking for a friend. Who is actually me.
I can clear this one up for you. It’s pronounced Berge.
You’re welcome
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:43 pm
by KRBFC
I think he’s probably the best central midfielder we’ve had in my lifetime. He’s above Defour and Cork for me.
I did love Djemba Djemba and Chris McCann tho
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:44 pm
by Vegas Claret
here's the missing e
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:04 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
I was extremely excited when I heard the news that Sheffield had accepted a bid from us.
I felt that was a tipping point in our prospects. Still may be.
I do think though that we have half a dozen equally talented players, albeit some of those are younger and haven’t yet figured out how to make the right choice. Trafford, Beyer, Odobert, Amdouni, Tresor, Foster. All equally talented. The key is whether they can all make the most of that talent.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:09 pm
by BurnleyFC
NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:51 am
Firstly, it’s Sander Berge.
I think he’s been an absolute class above. He was our best player on the pitch yesterday, I thought, although imagine Trafford’s performance caught the eye for most.
He’s playing in a pretty weak 2 man midfield, often with not much in front of him by way of support and does it brilliantly.
His awareness and reading of the game is excellent, in my opinion. He retains the ball really well given he’s often receiving or giving it in tight spaces. Passing pretty imperious, don’t recall him missing any passes.
I actually feel quite sorry for him that he’s not playing with others of similar quality because I think if he were we wouldn’t be in this position.
He’s been largely excellent for us, but he wasn’t even in our top three players yesterday.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:28 am
by Foshiznik
If Amdouni can reach the same level of performances as Berge then we stand a chance of staying up. Only issue is that so far, if one performs the other doesn't at the moment.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:14 pm
by nil_desperandum
IanMcL wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:17 pm
It will be Berger but without sounding the R. So Berg_e
This is correct.In fact there's currently another thread that talks about the "disappearing" "r" ("rrrr") at the end of words.
In Berge's case however the "rrrr" will never have been pronounced.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 am
by Quicknick
Turftalkers mentor wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:18 am
Ahhh dear dear Sander
A tall elegant chap , rather athletic in his physique, does a lot of running whilst on the pitch .
Probably a good type all round .
Good manners lets the opposition players have ball before him as he doesn’t want to hurt any of the chaps from the other side by putting his foot in .
The epitome of the Corinthian spirit.
I don't know your age, so you're maybe too young, but had you been watching Burnley in the late-'60s to '74, you'd have probably said something like this about Martin Dobson.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:07 am
by Turftalkers mentor
Further back to than that son , comparing those two
Dobson - Rolls Royce
Berge - Wheelbarrow
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:31 pm
by IanMcL
Quicknick wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 am
I don't know your age, so you're maybe too young, but had you been watching Burnley in the late-'60s to '74, you'd have probably said something like this about Martin Dobson.
Dobbo never lost a tackle!
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:06 pm
by Quicknick
IanMcL wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 12:31 pm
Dobbo never lost a tackle!
He glided around much like Berge does. That was my point, Ian.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:15 pm
by summitclaret
CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:04 pm
I was extremely excited when I heard the news that Sheffield had accepted a bid from us.
I felt that was a tipping point in our prospects. Still may be.
I do think though that we have half a dozen equally talented players, albeit some of those are younger and haven’t yet figured out how to make the right choice. Trafford, Beyer, Odobert, Amdouni, Tresor, Foster. All equally talented. The key is whether they can all make the most of that talent.
I think we'll have more chance of winning with only 1 winger, with a centre midfield of 3.
Something like:-
Trafford
Roberts O'Shea Ekdal Taylor
Beyer
Berge Brownhill
Any of 7 Foster Amdouni.
We should have bought a new back 4 and not as many wingers.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 4:44 pm
by ClaretPete001
Sander Berge is a very good player. Without him how many points would we now have?
How good would a Brownhill/Cullen midfield two be if he got injured?
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:00 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Turftalkers mentor wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:18 am
Ahhh dear dear Sander
A tall elegant chap , rather athletic in his physique, does a lot of running whilst on the pitch .
Probably a good type all round .
Good manners lets the opposition players have ball before him as he doesn’t want to hurt any of the chaps from the other side by putting his foot in .
The epitome of the Corinthian spirit.
There's no pleasing some people!
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:42 pm
by Westleigh
Turftalkers mentor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:07 am
Further back to than that son , comparing those two
Dobson - Rolls Royce
Berge - Wheelbarrow
Further back than that son,
Mcilroy Rolls Royce
Dobson Mercedes
Berge Audi
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:40 pm
by IanMcL
Quicknick wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:06 pm
He glided around much like Berge does. That was my point, Ian.
We must never confuse silky skills and gliding with a crunching tackle when needed. Dobbo the man. Berge bit of a wuss. As are most players nowadays.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:25 pm
by Turftalkers mentor
Westleigh wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:42 pm
Further back than that son,
Mcilroy Rolls Royce
Dobson Mercedes
Berge Audi
I was referring particularly to Dobbo and Berge.
I too had the privilege of watching Jimmy Mac.
I do thank you Sir , however for your valued comments
We older supporters who don’t suffer the inexperience and at times misjudged views of the game by some posters of this board do realise they are entitled to their views.
Re: Sander Berg
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:55 pm
by Westleigh
Turftalkers mentor wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:25 pm
I was referring particularly to Dobbo and Berge.
I too had the privilege of watching Jimmy Mac.
I do thank you Sir , however for your valued comments
We older supporters who don’t suffer the inexperience and at times misjudged views of the game by some posters of this board do realise they are entitled to their views.
Definitely.
