Everton want Josh on loan
Personally I think this would be the worst piece of business since we loaned Super Glen to Reading.
Josh is vital to our team and should not be going anywhere.

He won't be available on loan

Watch him for the disallowed Nunez goal yesterday. Stood watching his runner.

Isn't Prem quality in my opinion.

He's vital to our team, if our team is in the Championship.

Where’s this from?

There’s no way on earth we’re going to let our captain go to Everton on loan in Jan

Everton may need loans and will likely find some good ones, but it won’t be our Josh. And seriously doubt they’ll be buying unless their takeover goes through and they’ve got a war chest to spend - they must have some cash to keep funding £20m a month running costs.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:31 am

Everton want Josh on loan
Personally I think this would be the worst piece of business since we loaned Super Glen to Reading.
Josh is vital to our team and should not be going anywhere.

Little went on loan to Bolton

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:44 am

Little went on loan to Bolton

He went to Reading first, April to May. Bolton, September to October.

Any decent bid we should be looking to move him on and bring in a better player. Isn’t up to the premier league, his ball retention is no where near good enough.

A lot he does goes unnoticed. Broke up a lot of play yesterday and his energy is excellent. You can see the difference in our team when we swapped him out for Cullen. He does so much donkey work, but I do agree his passing lets him down and please keep him off set pieces!

Part of a midfield that wasn't Premier League standard and contributed significantly to our relegation in 2022. No pace, little creativity, not physical enough against the more mobile and athletic midfielders and his set pieces are nothing short of appalling. Significant upgrade required, the sooner the better.

burnleymik wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:30 am

A lot he does goes unnoticed. Broke up a lot of play yesterday and his energy is excellent. You can see the difference in our team when we swapped him out for Cullen. He does so much donkey work, but I do agree his passing lets him down and please keep him off set pieces!

The same could be said for several player's regarding set pieces and corners, there woeful.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:22 am

Any decent bid we should be looking to move him on and bring in a better player. Isn’t up to the premier league, his ball retention is no where near good enough.

Really very poor but Burnley fans just love a runner.

burnleymik wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 10:30 am

A lot he does goes unnoticed. Broke up a lot of play yesterday and his energy is excellent. You can see the difference in our team when we swapped him out for Cullen. He does so much donkey work, but I do agree his passing lets him down and please keep him off set pieces!

I think this pretty much nails it.

Like David Jones, Jeff Hendrick, Dean Marney, Scott Arfield before him. All undervalued for great chunks of their careers with us.

Edit: spelling alteration.

And super athlete George Boyd!

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:31 am

Everton want Josh on loan
Personally I think this would be the worst piece of business since we loaned Super Glen to Reading.
Josh is vital to our team and should not be going anywhere.

Glen could control the ball like glue on both feet and go past players with ease, no comparison to Brownhills lack of ball control and general play where he runs around and hides half the game.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 12:51 pm

Glen could control the ball like glue on both feet and go past players with ease, no comparison to Brownhills lack of ball control and general play where he runs around and hides half the game.

Just logged on to say what a load of crap about Josh this is

We've just beaten Fulham away against a very decent midfield 5 with a midfield 4 including Bruun Larsen who had a 'mare and Odobert who is learning his trade. Someone must have been doing something in midfield.

last season we won the Championship with over 100 points and Josh was head and shoulders above most in that division.

We have improved dramatically since Brownhill has come back into the team and he and Berge have developed a bit of a partnership.

I just don't get some of the comments on here it seems to be completely unconstrained by reality.

I think for some there's a distinct lack of reality on what makes a premier league player and what they are really talking about is a top 6 player and if you're not Vieira reincarnated you're not good enough for the Premier League.

You only need to look at some of the comments on Dwight McNeil, who despite having played 150 times plus in the premier league some think would struggle to get into a championship team, to realise that some people have no idea what makes a successful player.

If he's so shite as some allege why does Sean want him is this to fit in with his cm players?

If this is true then our ex manager must value him more than many on here. Personally I would tell them to go and swivel.

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:44 am

Little went on loan to Bolton

Reading at the time being talked about.

Brownhill is very effective. Stopping, tidying, tackling, blocking etc.

Brownhill would be fine as first or second reserve in a Premier League squad but if truth be told, any side with Josh Brownhill playing the majority of games is likely to be down at the bottom end.

His work off the ball is good but his work on it isn’t good.

I’m of the view that our team would be transformed by one transfer - a proper central midfielder to come in at the expense of Brownhill.

Your passing has to be spot on in the Premier league and make it easy for the receiver.
Josh has recently started playing a lot of chipped passes which put players under so much pressure.

He would be fine next to two very good passers of the ball.
Wolves would be perfect for him with all their technical players.

I'm not convinced Josh will ever be top level quality on the ball but he is our heartbeat and has a huge connection with the club and the fans, no way we let him go on loan to Everton unless it's with a guaranteed SILLY fee at the end of it.

Still is our joint top goal scorer for the season - and always chips in with goals.

I’d say a key player last year to… extremely under appreciated on here is JB.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:48 pm

If he's so shite as some allege why does Sean want him is this to fit in with his cm players?

Because he'd be cheap and would just be a back up at Everton. Third, fourth, fifth choice. Whereas at Burnley, even after the biggest recruitment window in the club's history, Brownhill is still one of the first names on team sheet despite having very obvious flaws which are taken advantage off by other teams week after week after week.

If I was Brownhill I would snap your hand off if the Everton offer came up.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:04 pm

Because he'd be cheap and would just be a back up at Everton. Third, fourth, fifth choice. Whereas at Burnley, even after the biggest recruitment window in the club's history, Brownhill is still one of the first names on team sheet despite having very obvious flaws which are taken advantage off by other teams week after week after week.

If I was Brownhill I would snap your hand off if the Everton offer came up.

Its probably a planted story to drum up any interest for him as VK will have realised he hasn't made the grade and needs to free money up somewhere after his massive spend elsewhere. I agree with the above post (MDWat) we are really struggling in midfield and need someone that can do long passes to Berge who should be playing further forward, as it is Berge's covering for two players worth of work in an offensive sense. Thats why he looks absolutely knackered most games.

Not a problem if he goes, it's just paper talk that other Prem club(s) want him as it was 18 months ago.

If only we could get Phillips on loan, massive upgrade.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:08 pm

Its probably a planted story to drum up any interest for him as VK will have realised he hasn't made the grade and needs to free money up somewhere after his massive spend elsewhere. I agree with the above post (MDWat) we are really struggling in midfield and need someone that can do long passes to Berge who should be playing further forward, as it is Berge's covering for two players worth of work in an offensive sense. Thats why he looks absolutely knackered most games.

Yep agreed. I find it bonkers that he's pretty much been our main centre midfield player this season. Seems a top lad and not a bad player at all but even last season it was clear he wasn't up to how Kompany wants to play - he was shuffled further up where his good pressing was more important than his bad passing.

We are still crying out for at least one, ideally two, central box-to-box midfielders who are big, strong and can put a tackle in. It was missing from Dyche's Burnley sides too.

We've needed it for about twenty years.

As I've said, a good offer for Brownhill and he should go. He'd be daft from a personal aspect not to. Same commute, big wages, a style he's more suited to and more likely to be a Premier League player next season.

To loan any of our players to another struggling side in the PL wouldn't just be bad for business it would be hammering the nails into our relegation box.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:15 pm

Yep agreed. I find it bonkers that he's pretty much been our main centre midfield player this season. Seems a top lad and not a bad player at all but even last season it was clear he wasn't up to how Kompany wants to play - he was shuffled further up where his good pressing was more important than his bad passing.

We are still crying out for at least one, ideally two, central box-to-box midfielders who are big, strong and can put a tackle in. It was missing from Dyche's Burnley sides too.

We've needed it for about twenty years.

As I've said, a good offer for Brownhill and he should go. He'd be daft from a personal aspect not to. Same commute, big wages, a style he's more suited to and more likely to be a Premier League player next season.

Said before Kevin Ball , Barton were the last ones we had before Hendrick and Cork in their pomp.

Any reserve midfielder from City and Liverpool would be an upgrade and judging from Kompany sweet talking Klopp after the match yesterday hopefully he is well on the way to getting one

OK for me if Brownhill stays but please stop letting him take corners or free kicks

UTC

He's not a midfield playmaker obviously - but he works his socks off, breaks up play, covers ground, keeps it moving. Most midfields have players like that to compliment the 'ball players' - which in our case is Berge.

He's under-rated and under-appreciated by some IMO. With the options we have in this squad he is a regular starter for good reason.

forzagranata wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:23 pm

He's not a midfield playmaker obviously - but he works his socks off, breaks up play, covers ground, keeps it moving. Most midfields have players like that to compliment the 'ball players' - which in our case is Berge.

He's under-rated and under-appreciated by some IMO. With the options we have in this squad he is a regular starter for good reason.

Problem is, in this league, that type of player is typically a physical beast too. Players like Lemina, Joao Gomes, Edson Alvarez and Palhinha. While players of his size are typically excellent technically, likes of Ward-Prowse. For me he’s a bit in between the two.

Would have thought he was one too hang on to.

Yeah Josh must be shoite ... after all its only Everton, Palace, Wolves & Leicester who are all seemingly wanting him ...
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/evert ... -transfer/

He weren’t good enough in this league season before last

He's becoming the new Jeff Hendrick.

'You'll miss him when he's gone'.

He plays for us and gives 100% every game plus more.

Of course that means nothing as he isn't deemed good enough for the Premier League by the Oracles of UTC despite being linked with other far better Premier League Clubs during his time here

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:00 pm

He's becoming the new Jeff Hendrick.

'You'll miss him when he's gone'.

You miss Jeff?

His career went downhill faster than Eddie the Eagle.

JohnMac wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:16 pm

He plays for us and gives 100% every game plus more.

Of course that means nothing as he isn't deemed good enough for the Premier League by the Oracles of UTC despite being linked with other far better Premier League Clubs during his time here

Links that have never fruitioned are often just agent talk.

JohnMac wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:16 pm

He plays for us and gives 100% every game plus more.

Of course that means nothing as he isn't deemed good enough for the Premier League by the Oracles of UTC despite being linked with other far better Premier League Clubs during his time here

He’s been getting linked to clubs for years? Have we even had a single offer? No we haven’t.

He’s just one of them players that sits in the cusp (similar to Pukki) of too good for the championship but not good enough for the prem.

If you have a team of really high quality technical players you could probably carry Brownhill at this level as he is a bit of workhorse but unfortunately he just doesn’t have ability to be a regular starter in a decent premier league side.

We are a much better team when JB plays. That’s been proven time and time again this season and last too.
He’s also one of our senior players now and his experience and leadership is key in this young side.
Would be a big loss for us if he went and and personally I think it would be nigh on impossible to pick up a player with his attributes for anywhere near the £7m or £8m we paid for him.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:59 pm

Your passing has to be spot on in the Premier league and make it easy for the receiver.
Josh has recently started playing a lot of chipped passes which put players under so much pressure.

He would be fine next to two very good passers of the ball.
Wolves would be perfect for him with all their technical players.

Yes, the chipped passes aren't good enough.

Big Vinny K wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:27 am

We are a much better team when JB plays. That’s been proven time and time again this season and last too.
He’s also one of our senior players now and his experience and leadership is key in this young side.
Would be a big loss for us if he went and and personally I think it would be nigh on impossible to pick up a player with his attributes for anywhere near the £7m or £8m we paid for him.

Agree with all of this and, per CoolClaret’s post on another thread, we may lose Charlie, JBG and JRod next year so retaining his experience would be important.

I think it’s fair to say his attributes likely suit a Dyche team over a Kompany team, but he could be a vital cog in helping us transition between the two at this level and critical in helping us get back up, especially if we lose Berge (which I think we will).

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 28, 2023 9:15 am

Have we even had a single offer? No we haven’t.

Wow, just wow for being part of the inner sanctum of the Club with knowledge of our player dealings!

All of our players will have some gaps in their game. If they didn't they'd be playing for Man City not us. Doesn't mean they can't do a job for us.

Good enough for Wolves and Everton to be interested, but barely good enough for us in the championship. Make it make sense.

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:48 pm

If he's so shite as some allege why does Sean want him is this to fit in with his cm players?

It won’t be to strengthen them, more to weaken us

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:07 am

It won’t be to strengthen them, more to weaken us

I doubt Everton have the slightest interest in weakening us.