Should we refuse to have these refs.
Should we refuse to have these refs.
Apparently 3 Premier League refs support our rivals,
Craig Pawson Sheff Utd
David Coote is from Nottingham but not sure who he supports,but hasn’t reffed any Nottingham games.
Stuart Atwell Luton.
Wouldn’t be too happy them reffing any of our matches.
Craig Pawson Sheff Utd
David Coote is from Nottingham but not sure who he supports,but hasn’t reffed any Nottingham games.
Stuart Atwell Luton.
Wouldn’t be too happy them reffing any of our matches.
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Welcome back my friend Nori being confrontational already,I would have thought most Burnley fans would understand why.
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Hi carwin.... Its not me who's been away, but any way Not sure why it's confrontational
Most refs will support a team, and iam sure we've been reffed many times by refs who's team could be affected by the result of the game, as have many other teams, so I was asking why the 3 you mentioned are any different
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Irs unavoidable really, there isnt likely to be a big queue of non-football fans wanting to be referee's. So we have to truat the authorities to deal with is as best they can and the refs to maintain their professionalism.
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I hoestly don't think it matters who they support. In some cases, it could arguably work in the opposite direction.
Ability is a bigger issue. Ours and theirs!
Ability is a bigger issue. Ours and theirs!
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Imagine going to the last game of the season and we need to beat Forest to stop up ,Stuart Atwell is referee and if we lose Luton stop up,I would have thought there may be a conflict of interest especially having seen what an avid fan of Tranmere Mike Dean is,it’s only human nature.
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After seeing how various clubs are treated with VAR I wouldn’t trust the authorities as far as I could throw them.
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Do you think Mike Dean ever reffed a game to dobTranmere a favour I don't.Westleigh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:40 pmImagine going to the last game of the season and we need to beat Forest to stop up ,Stuart Atwell is referee and if we lose Luton stop up,I would have thought there may be a conflict of interest especially having seen what an avid fan of Tranmere Mike Dean is,it’s only human nature.
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Why didn't you say that in your post then ...
Because it looked like you were implying Mike (you'll always be a Claret) Dean was corrupt where Tranmere was concerned
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Re: Should we refuse to have these refs.
Referees have to declare any allegiance.
For example, Michael Oliver is a Newcastle fan so cannot referee them, nor can he referee a Sunderland game.
Before he retired, Jon Moss couldn’t referee Sunderland (he’s from there), Leeds (he lives there) or Millwall (he played for them at youth level).
It would be impossible to allocate referees to games if they supported a club in the same division.
For example, Michael Oliver is a Newcastle fan so cannot referee them, nor can he referee a Sunderland game.
Before he retired, Jon Moss couldn’t referee Sunderland (he’s from there), Leeds (he lives there) or Millwall (he played for them at youth level).
It would be impossible to allocate referees to games if they supported a club in the same division.
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I appreciate that ,but imagine being a ref from Burnley and having the chance to keep them up in a match that you the official,everyone’s heard about corruption in foot ball why should this be different ,didn’t post this to cause an argument just stating a fact that a few of our immediate rivals have Premier League refs as fans.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:03 pmReferees have to declare any allegiance.
For example, Michael Oliver is a Newcastle fan so cannot referee them, nor can he referee a Sunderland game.
Before he retired, Jon Moss couldn’t referee Sunderland (he’s from there), Leeds (he lives there) or Millwall (he played for them at youth level).
It would be impossible to allocate referees to games if they supported a club in the same division.
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A Portsmouth fan took the line in a game recently Portsmouth against Cheltenham.Wade Elliott the Cheltenham manager said he was the best official they have had all season.I honestly think that if I was incharge of a Burnley game,I would try to be as professional and impartial as possible
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How many times do we have players you play against teams they support, should we not select them?
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It's more important that Jones doesn't ref anyone.
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They all have their bad days but Jones seems really arrogant,and very aloof.
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If you don’t think refs aren’t biased I suggest you watch Michael Oliver tonight doing sweet fa when a West Ham player was dragged down as they hit Arsenal on the break ,and the number of times we’ve been robbed blind when playing Arsenal.
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Gordon Hill reffed our semi agin Newcastle in ‘74. Despite being listed as Leicester he had lived and taught in the Rossy. Many said he was a secret Claret but he didn’t help us on the day and well done him for playing it straight.
No names, to save embarrassment, but a BL regular was reffing a game in the 70s and had a man to man bet on the outcome. He was found out and suspended from reffing but he was so straight he lost the bet.
No names, to save embarrassment, but a BL regular was reffing a game in the 70s and had a man to man bet on the outcome. He was found out and suspended from reffing but he was so straight he lost the bet.
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Years ago I went to see Howard Webb at a Sportsman's Dinner. He said that the story about him being a Man United fan was rubbish, and if you didn't believe him you only had to ask any of his 3 sons Ryan, Wayne or Cristiano!
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Alternatively, you could imagine that Stuart Atwell would be appointed to a game that didn't affect Luton and wouldn't be at Turf Moor. You could even imagine that the PL have already thought of this!Westleigh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:40 pmImagine going to the last game of the season and we need to beat Forest to stop up ,Stuart Atwell is referee and if we lose Luton stop up,I would have thought there may be a conflict of interest especially having seen what an avid fan of Tranmere Mike Dean is,it’s only human nature.
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Who does Oliver support then
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I reffed the team I used to play for and was accused by my former teammates of being biased against them!
Yet their opponents said they were impressed I wasn't biased at all!!!
Of course the reality was I was equally useless for both sides.
Yet their opponents said they were impressed I wasn't biased at all!!!
Of course the reality was I was equally useless for both sides.
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So why would that make him biased towards arsenal?....and if he was he didn't do a very good job.
I also don't think that the bad decisions we had against arsenal were to influence other teams
Forest have complained against Rob Jones, and their fans think he's biased against them because he's a Derby fan...that didn't work against us though, some referees are poor, some are poorer, but I dont think any of them are corrupt.
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Used to show where ref was from on Team Sheet in programme, eg Referee: Mr M Fussey, Retford.
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It's more the problem of being useless like many are
Plymouth were robbed by a blatant home blower yesterday.
Plymouth were robbed by a blatant home blower yesterday.
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Any one see the Luton fan reffing today? .definitely biased ( not according this board)
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Needs looking into big time after today
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And what about a red for a handball that stopped Foster having a shot that was down to the ref ,if he hadnt given Villa a pen VAR wouldn’t have given it.
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Was it in the area.... If not, they Carnt123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:41 pmI can’t understand how VAR looks at the handball and doesn’t send him to the screen instantly
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They stopped the game and VAR checked it as it was a potential red card for preventing a goal scoring opportunity
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I'm beginning to wonder why we let onfield refs make any decisions, just use VAR all over the pitch and have someone sat on their backside making all the final decisions... better still have a 5 man committee slowing down the decision making process and eventually telling the ref what to give.
Actually we could have robot refs
Actually we could have robot refs
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Don’t know if you saw it ,but the Villa player didn’t have the ball under control and Foster was in a position to get the ball until the hand came out and controlled it,
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Bit hard to describe but I thought Foster was in a position to get passed him ,I might be wrong but I’m still ****** off .
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Just looked on the PGMOL post it shows a video of the guy directing the ball away from Foster ,watch it and come to your own conclusion.