Benson to Southampton

[Rumpelstiltskin]

How much did Southampton want from us for Tella on a permanent deal ?

[Clive 1960]

Cullen and Beyer were arguably our best 2 players last season, and look how much they've struggled.

I have my doubts about Beyer and not just is form he seems to pick up knocks quite often...

[123EasyasBFC]

The 45 minutes he played from the start against Aston Villa at home he was extremely In affective when two players where on him instantly and didn’t have any space, bit like when teams figured out McNeil. Benson will be 27 in march and whilst his performances last season will mean his stock will still be high, a loan with an option to buy for 20m if saints go up will mean we have tripled our money on him.

Do you keep him and risk him not being the same player after another season in championship and try and sell a 28 year for profit

[claretandy]

I’m not sure we’ve paid for him yet. Loan with an obligation to buy at the end of the season wasn’t it?

Either way, he looks like a bad deal. I hope there’s a way out of it for us.

It was a loan with an obligation to buy after he played a certain number of games, that's already been triggered.

[Murger]

Zaroury will be next.

[Quickenthetempo]

This will give us an idea whether these owners can see out their plans of making money on players.

[123EasyasBFC]

Zaroury will be next.

Zaroury has more celling than benson to me, think he will be one we might loan out without option

[Bigvince]

Get rid of Kompany and keep benson seems obvious really.

YAWN

[Newcastleclaret93]

We’ve already bought Tresor.

No we haven’t he’s on a loan this season. We have an obligation to buy him in the summer

[Nori1958]

Zaroury will be next.

Quite possibly

[123EasyasBFC]

No we haven’t he’s on a loan this season. We have an obligation to buy him in the summer

The perm deal was triggered after 5 games or something

[BurnleyFC]

It was a loan with an obligation to buy after he played a certain number of games, that's already been triggered.

Cosmic

[Nori1958]

No we haven’t he’s on a loan this season. We have an obligation to buy him in the summer

Already triggered as reported earlier in the season

[Nori1958]

The perm deal was triggered after 5 games or something

Correct

[agreenwood]

Benson was a joy to watch at times last season and in my opinion was probably our most exciting player, but it's easy to forget that he played less than 1500 minutes. For context that's about 35% of a 46 game season. Some of that was due to injury, but he also started a lot of games on the bench. That's probably because he's a bit of a luxury at times.

I think when you're dominating games, he's a tremendous player to have. When you're no longer the more talented team in most games and need someone to press and track back, he's probably not going to see much pitch time, nothwithstanding the various niggling injuries he appears to pick up regularly.

It's a real shame if he leaves us. I don't think I've enjoyed watching a player more than Benson since the days of Blake and Little, but I can see the logic in it.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The perm deal was triggered after 5 games or something

Yes triggered for the end of the season? I don’t believe you can loan players for 10 games or whatever it was.

[jdrobbo]

In this right here is our ‘Moneyball’ model. Fall in love with players at your peril: losing Benny for a decent profit might allow us to keep three or four of Koleosho, Zaroury, Odebert, Foster, Amdouni….

[Boss Hogg]

Stupidness like most of our transfer business recently. One of of key players in the Championship which is where we are heading.

[fidelcastro]

Obviously not our next 100 million pounds player, then?

[Blondeclaret]

According to Sacha Tavolieri.

Loan with an option to buy.

Heard this from a reliable scourge about a month ago.
Benson signed a new contract which more than doubled his wages which will obviously up the value if sold.

[Woodleyclaret]

Send them Ramsay and we will have Bednereck
and Adams in the deal. Saints are not easy to deal with as we have found with Tella saga.
Benny put us in the Premier league and the way he's been frozen out is unacceptable

[Newcastleclaret93]

In this right here is our ‘Moneyball’ model. Fall in love with players at your peril: losing Benny for a decent profit might allow us to keep three or four of Koleosho, Zaroury, Odebert, Foster, Amdouni….

All of them players will leave.

Similar to Weghorst none will want championship football

[willsclarets]

Not overly surprised. We have far too many wingers, and both koleosho/Odobert have proven they have what it takes in a struggling team no less. He's 27, much older than the other two, we'll make a good profit and he's pretty injury prone.

On his day he's superb, but he's not a reliable starter and if he makes way for a high calibre striker, centre back or cm then in my eyes the squad dynamic improves and its a good decision.

[agreenwood]

In this right here is our ‘Moneyball’ model. Fall in love with players at your peril: losing Benny for a decent profit might allow us to keep three or four of Koleosho, Zaroury, Odebert, Foster, Amdouni….

This is going to be overplayed. If this is true we're basically offloading a player who doesn't seem to be able to get near the first team whether that's because of injury or because there are 3-4 other players in front of him.

It's not moneyball. It's normal football logic.

[Boss Hogg]

Ramsey is the one that needs loaning for experience. He’s been a liability this season as he’s not ready.

[HahaYeah]

People were complaining we have too many wingers and now they are complaining at this.

[ecc]

No mention on The Southampton Echo twitter account. They're supposed to be linked with Brookes from Bournemouth.

[Neil]

Benson was a joy to watch at times last season and in my opinion was probably our most exciting player, but it's easy to forget that he played less than 1500 minutes. For context that's about 35% of a 46 game season. Some of that was due to injury, but he also started a lot of games on the bench. That's probably because he's a bit of a luxury at times.

I think when you're dominating games, he's a tremendous player to have. When you're no longer the more talented team in most games and need someone to press and track back, he's probably not going to see much pitch time, nothwithstanding the various niggling injuries he appears to pick up regularly.

It's a real shame if he leaves us. I don't think I've enjoyed watching a player more than Benson since the days of Blake and Little, but I can see the logic in it.

Agree with all of that and I can't be as outraged as most on here as we've barely seen him this season.

As long as we end up getting a good fee and it seems another risky signing for Southampton in the same mould as Ross Stewart.

[It Is What It Is]

If Benson thinks he's match fit but not getting game time...why not ask for a move.
VK said in the A Mission To Burnley documentary that Benson could be a £100 million player!!!
So, if true, something's gone drastically wrong behind the scenes.

[Vegas Claret]

Benson was a joy to watch at times last season and in my opinion was probably our most exciting player, but it's easy to forget that he played less than 1500 minutes. For context that's about 35% of a 46 game season. Some of that was due to injury, but he also started a lot of games on the bench. That's probably because he's a bit of a luxury at times.

I think when you're dominating games, he's a tremendous player to have. When you're no longer the more talented team in most games and need someone to press and track back, he's probably not going to see much pitch time, nothwithstanding the various niggling injuries he appears to pick up regularly.

It's a real shame if he leaves us. I don't think I've enjoyed watching a player more than Benson since the days of Blake and Little, but I can see the logic in it.

spot on

[CrosspoolClarets]

I can understand this if we are on 20 points and scoring, but we are on 11 points and 2nd lowest in chance creation and goals. So whatever we have been doing has been struggling to work.

Benson has had 12 minutes since the Villa home game back in August. I’m amazed he hasn’t been on longer at the times when we needed a goal, i.e. injury time yesterday, 15 minutes to go against Liverpool, 30 minutes to go against Everton (rather than last few minutes he had). He hasn’t been given a chance. He is so chaotic he could have grabbed something.

So it makes no sense but that isn’t the sale, it is Kompany not trying him when we are desperate.

Equally daft though are some of the silly comments on page 1 like “he is better than Tresor”. In the Championship last year Tresor would have had 30 goals and assists combined. This is now an ultra high level. No doubts Tresor, Odobert, Koleosho and (maybe) JBL are better than both Benson and Zaroury. They all look like the types of wingers the mid table teams have, like Fulham and Wolves.

[daveisaclaret]

I can understand this if we are on 20 points and scoring, but we are on 11 points and 2nd lowest in chance creation and goals. So whatever we have been doing has been struggling to work.

Benson has had 12 minutes since the Villa home game back in August. I’m amazed he hasn’t been on longer at the times when we needed a goal, i.e. injury time yesterday, 15 minutes to go against Liverpool, 30 minutes to go against Everton (rather than last few minutes he had). He hasn’t been given a chance. He is so chaotic he could have grabbed something.

So it makes no sense but that isn’t the sale, it is Kompany not trying him when we are desperate.

Equally daft though are some of the silly comments on page 1 like “he is better than Tresor”. In the Championship last year Tresor would have had 30 goals and assists combined. This is now an ultra high level. No doubts Tresor, Odobert, Koleosho and (maybe) JBL are better than both Benson and Zaroury. They all look like the types of wingers the mid table teams have, like Fulham and Wolves.

Difficult to follow the logic that Benson should be getting more minutes but we've got 4 wingers who are better than him, I think.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I can understand this if we are on 20 points and scoring, but we are on 11 points and 2nd lowest in chance creation and goals. So whatever we have been doing has been struggling to work.

Benson has had 12 minutes since the Villa home game back in August. I’m amazed he hasn’t been on longer at the times when we needed a goal, i.e. injury time yesterday, 15 minutes to go against Liverpool, 30 minutes to go against Everton (rather than last few minutes he had). He hasn’t been given a chance. He is so chaotic he could have grabbed something.

So it makes no sense but that isn’t the sale, it is Kompany not trying him when we are desperate.

Equally daft though are some of the silly comments on page 1 like “he is better than Tresor”. In the Championship last year Tresor would have had 30 goals and assists combined. This is now an ultra high level. No doubts Tresor, Odobert, Koleosho and (maybe) JBL are better than both Benson and Zaroury. They all look like the types of wingers the mid table teams have, like Fulham and Wolves.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest them players are better than Benson.

Bensons form last season was better than anything those loads have produced for us.

[123EasyasBFC]

Yes triggered for the end of the season? I don’t believe you can loan players for 10 games or whatever it was.

No but the point is that money is already accounted for, wolves signed cunha on loan from a.Madrid and it was made perm after 1 game

[fidelcastro]

Sorry, I'm seeing things.

I'm sure I just read that Tresor would have thirty goals and assists in the championship.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No but the point is that money is already accounted for, wolves signed cunha on loan from a.Madrid and it was made perm after 1 game

I don’t believe the money will be accounted for until the permanent transfer goes through? That won’t be until the summer window

[RVclaret]

Sorry, I'm seeing things.

I'm sure I just read that Tresor would have thirty goals and assists in the championship.

Well he did it in a better league than the Championship so it’s not unfathomable to think along those lines.

[alboclaret]

Can't get in side, for whatever reason.
Older of many wingers.
Turn a good profit.
Only seams a impact player.
Lots of injuries.
Don't look a prem player, too lightweight

Fairly understandable if we can move him on with the impending relegation.
Be ideal if we were cash rich to keep as a super sub next year but we don't have that luxury.

[agreenwood]

I can understand this if we are on 20 points and scoring, but we are on 11 points and 2nd lowest in chance creation and goals. So whatever we have been doing has been struggling to work.

Benson has had 12 minutes since the Villa home game back in August. I’m amazed he hasn’t been on longer at the times when we needed a goal, i.e. injury time yesterday, 15 minutes to go against Liverpool, 30 minutes to go against Everton (rather than last few minutes he had). He hasn’t been given a chance. He is so chaotic he could have grabbed something.

So it makes no sense but that isn’t the sale, it is Kompany not trying him when we are desperate.

Equally daft though are some of the silly comments on page 1 like “he is better than Tresor”. In the Championship last year Tresor would have had 30 goals and assists combined. This is now an ultra high level. No doubts Tresor, Odobert, Koleosho and (maybe) JBL are better than both Benson and Zaroury. They all look like the types of wingers the mid table teams have, like Fulham and Wolves.

You need to get Benson on the ball in their final third. If you can do that regularly then he can be lethal. The problem in the PL is that we rarely camp in the opposition half like we did last season. The odd game last season that was a bit more transitional was probably when Benson was least effective. Even when we're chasing games at this level, there aren't many teams we play who will sit back and let us have the ball.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Well he did it in a better league than the Championship so it’s not unfathomable to think along those lines.

We aren’t seriously suggesting the Jupiter Pro league is better than the championship are we?

[Boss Hogg]

If Benson thinks he's match fit but not getting game time...why not ask for a move.
VK said in the A Mission To Burnley documentary that Benson could be a £100 million player!!!
So, if true, something's gone drastically wrong behind the scenes.

It’s not the first time he’s said things that aren’t true. There’s no £100 million player in this squad.

[fidelcastro]

Well he did it in a better league than the Championship so it’s not unfathomable to think along those lines.

I guess we'll find out next season, but I'll wager a bet with you that he won't be anywhere near those figures.

[KlyBfc]

Like many I’ll be gutted if Benny leaves. He’s a match winner. His goals and assists dug us out of a lot of holes last year. We’d have been a hell of a lot closer to the pack without him. He has what I’ve yet to see in any of our new signings true quality in both the final shot and ball in.

[Vegas Claret]

We aren’t seriously suggesting the Jupiter Pro league is better than the championship are we?

Mickey mouse league ? There are some good players in Belgium. ZERO chance of us beating Barcelona

[RVclaret]

We aren’t seriously suggesting the Jupiter Pro league is better than the championship are we?

I would say so. Union got to the Europa League quarter finals last season? And just beat Liverpool 2-1? Likes of Genk / Anderlecht / Gent have been competing well in Europe for a while. Royal Antwerp just beat Barcelona 3-2 in the Champions League.

[HahaYeah]

VK is a bit of a romantic, I wouldn't take the £100 million player quote literally.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Mickey mouse league ? There are some good players in Belgium. ZERO chance of us beating Barcelona

I could take a one of result from practically any team in any league.

Lincoln beat us when we were in the prem. does that mean the non league is better than the championship?

Off course not. Belgium produces a few decent talents but let’s not kid ourselves that league is a Mickey Mouse league

[Clive 1960]

i thought Benson had a groin injury he picked up with the under 21 a couple of weeks ago, surely Southampton aren't that daft to get a player on loan who is always injured...

[Vegas Claret]

I could take a one of result from practically any team in any league.

Lincoln beat us when we were in the prem. does that mean the non league is better than the championship?

Off course not. Belgium produces a few decent talents but let’s not kid ourselves that league is a Mickey Mouse league

the top teams are comfortably high end Championship level, to suggest otherwise is staggering.

[Tricky Trevor]

ALK playbook rule 1. Buy cheap, sell for a profit. Regurgitate.
Utter ********. In any football anywhere you build a team of guys that will play for each other and their gaffer. We are in the mess we are in because last seasons guys were scattered in the wind, for lesser players.