Burnley Font

[GetIntoEm]

I like it

[CoolClaret]

Christ on a bike

Good retort

[NewClaret]

Changes of badges, branding, eradication of the club culture and history.

What do you dislike? The modernisation? The funding that has been sought? The progressive approach to recruitment in playing and coaching staff? Expanding the brand of the club internationally?

I’d just give up mate.

Some fans just like to tell us how much they dislike about the way the club. In such a situation I’d just disconnect, but they seem to spend all their time on here telling us. I have to question why.

But anyway, I think our new model is different, really refreshing and I’m excited to see where it can take us. There’s no guarantees it will leave us as successful on the pitch as we have been in recent years but I’m enjoying the journey to find out.

[123EasyasBFC]

All disputable and been done to death (being relegated by january is anything but progressive)

Dislike the model of operation, the profit of all cost approach amongst other things but that's for another thread

Its obvious that parts are the new ownership have risk and negatives to it but there have also been lots of positives and sometimes your passion over little things like these fonts for example can seem like any little thing the owners present is seen as a negative or taking the club from its core when it’s really not that deep

[NewClaret]

IIRC it was originally only meant to be for the 50th anniversary season but with us being promoted and going “worldwide” the club decided to stick with it (albeit replacing the Latin with Burnley Football Club)

In all honesty, I don’t mind the monochrome versions of the badge. They look a lot clearer and the coloured version wouldn’t look right on some of our kits

Agree entirely about the monochrome. Nearly all clubs do them on their alternate kits and they look really smart. Would always want to see our badge in full colour on the home kit though.

[CoolClaret]

Its obvious that parts are the new ownership have risk and negatives to it but there have also been lots of positives and sometimes your passion over little things like these fonts for example can seem like any little thing the owners present is seen as a negative or taking the club from its core when it’s really not that deep

It's not just the font though (which I don't really care about as a one off btw).

It's the other things that have started to creep in which I think will only get worse.

[Devils_Advocate]

Im not fussed either way bout the Burnley font but I have to agree with CT that if we are going to change our badge like we did in 2010 we need to do it the proper way and officially change it and register that change.

[123EasyasBFC]

It's not just the font though (which I don't really care about as a one off btw).

It's the other things that have started to creep in which I think will only get worse.

Things creeping in are creeping in to majority of clubs in the football league, it’s just the way football is going, you would like to think with the backlash with the drummer situation (which was a joke from the club) that any big decision they will see what fans think first. Whatever anyone thinks of the owners they aren’t daft, they managed to get the fans back onside last season they won’t want to lose them again

[CoolClaret]

Things creeping in are creeping in to majority of clubs in the football league, it’s just the way football is going, you would like to think with the backlash with the drummer situation (which was a joke from the club) that any big decision they will see what fans think first. Whatever anyone thinks of the owners they aren’t daft, they managed to get the fans back onside last season they won’t want to lose them again

Only because fans allow it, we'd do well to take a leaf out of the German fans' books.

Again, I point to the Leeds fans' reaction when their owners (may have been previous owners) attempted a rebrand.

[123EasyasBFC]

Only because fans allow it, we'd do well to take a leaf out of the German fans' books.

Again, I point to the Leeds fans' reaction when their owners (may have been previous owners) attempted a rebrand.

German football culture is completely different to English.

You are referring to Leeds when they tried to change the badge, there is nothing for us to backlash to the owners about, they are haven’t tried to change any logo yet

[CoolClaret]

German football culture is completely different to English.

You are referring to Leeds when they tried to change the badge, there is nothing for us to backlash to the owners about, they are haven’t tried to change any logo yet

I mean, there are plenty of things to - but last year did paper over the cracks (and was admittedly a great season) and does give them credit.

Not into the rest like. Oh and key word... 'yet'

[123EasyasBFC]

I mean, there are plenty of things to - but last year did paper over the cracks (and was admittedly a great season) and does give them credit.

Not into the rest like. Oh and key word... 'yet'

There’s no denying that last season did paper over cracks that are being seen this season within match day experience. Last season happened to due to the new ownership and bringing kompany in (yes I know if dyche stayed we still could of got promoted under dyche)

[gandhisflipflop]

Some ‘fans’ are making this season truely unbearable

[Newcastleclaret93]

Some ‘fans’ are making this season truely unbearable

Don’t read then?

[DCWat]

Aston Villa is apparently the first to redesign their club crest under new Premier League guidelines.

Interestingly, the guidelines suggest that fans must be consulted. Who or how many, I’m not sure. FAB?

Anyway, credit to Villa, they look to have gone about their redesign the right way and they’ve done so without going ‘modern’. Hardly an earth shattering change, but I’d hope that if we were to change, we’d go about it in a similar way.

https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/13- ... gon-rouge/

If that B is a sign of things to come, there’ll be uproar!

[StayingDown4Ever]

This entire thread is embarrassing

[BabylonClaret]

As a Blue Jays fan I can't think of anything more offensive than "Yankee" (spit)

[NewClaret]

Registered by Burnley Football Club as the official club badge which I’ve said we’ve done twice in 1974 and then in 2010.

Thanks.

Who do we register them with?’is it a Trade Mark thing or with the FA?

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I like a lot about America, love a lot about Americans as you say friendly and welcoming and the 'can do' attitude.

For me the corporate/busness culture leaves a lot to be desired, as does a lot of the politics and I think it's fair to say that the role professional sport plays over there is very different and has a different model to what Association Football in England does - that's fair, no?

Again - I didn't think Yank or Yankee is particularly 'offensive' - pointing to the fact that it's the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world, happy to be wrong on that of course.

My only concerns are Burnley Football Club losing it's identity, which I am in fear of.

I do not want the club to be a completely run-of-the-mill sanitised type, which I think we are slowly morphing into.

Since the biggest woke snowflake left the forum the crown has been vacated thats all.

[DingleDangle]

Don’t read then?

Did you really feel the need to respond?

[superdimitri]

I like a lot about America, love a lot about Americans as you say friendly and welcoming and the 'can do' attitude.

For me the corporate/busness culture leaves a lot to be desired, as does a lot of the politics and I think it's fair to say that the role professional sport plays over there is very different and has a different model to what Association Football in England does - that's fair, no?

Again - I didn't think Yank or Yankee is particularly 'offensive' - pointing to the fact that it's the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world, happy to be wrong on that of course.

My only concerns are Burnley Football Club losing it's identity, which I am in fear of.

I do not want the club to be a completely run-of-the-mill sanitised type, which I think we are slowly morphing into.

You have to ask yourself what is considered offensive? If someone takes offense to a certain term, then it's offensive and I can tell you 100% the way you, and others use 'yank' on the forum, it will be seen as offensive. Other ways people have been offensive in posts is by referencing our owners as 'the Americans'..
In the USA Yank itself is actually a well known derogatory term used by Southern Americans (perhaps Confederate supporters) to describe Northern Americans. The closest example I can see the other way round is the Australian word pom used to describe us Brits.

We live in the 21st century yet people are still caught up with stereotypes used in the past couple of centuries.

We don't see Americans on the forum calling out our previous ownership as 'Limeys' or Australians here calling them 'poms'.

And no, there's nothing wrong, or different with American business practices or how they run their teams. In fact, they run a lot of their teams a lot better than many owners do here. They tend to love tradition and history and that's a big reason JJ Watt and even the board was interested in buying the club to begin with.

There's no reason to believe just because someone is from America they they'll strip us of our identity any more than someone who's British. In fact you could argue that our last owner, a Burnley fan was guilty of putting us in our worse place financially due to the way he sold the club.

As for the JJ oh the Mcafee there's absolutely nothing wrong with what they talked about. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Being from an era where I looked forward to us getting more than a min highlight reel on the local news or a 10 min special on sky before a rare televised cup game I think the media attention we get know is awesome and shows how much progress we've made as a club.

There are ways to be critical without using discrimination. Don't assume the decisions being made are part of where someone is born and instead look at the bigger picture. These decisions you may not agree with could just as well be made by a Mike Ashley type owner.

I think it's important to be welcoming to new fans and it doesn't look good on us as fans using discrimination. I for one would be happy to see any interest in our club from anyone outside the UK and it would be very sad to see them put off by aging stereotypes and an unwelcoming attitude.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I read an article on shirts the other week (the athletic I think) and it seems that all premier league clubs do this.

No don’t tell the truth and expose the royston vasey members. It’s just us doing this due to the “yanks”

I suppose those who like to use the term “yanks” should be pleased they are at least they are white otherwise they may come across as a bit racist

[Newcastleclaret93]

Did you really feel the need to respond?

All that poster does is come on here and tell everyone how unbearable it is on here.

He should just not come on if it’s so unbearable.

[claretonthecoast1882]

All that poster does is come on here and tell everyone how unbearable it is on here.

He should just not come on if it’s so unbearable.

You could also argue that those who dislike everything about the club and don't go to games could watch an illegal stream of a different club on a matchday

[Newcastleclaret93]

You could also argue that those who dislike everything about the club and don't go to games could watch an illegal stream of a different club on a matchday

Think you will struggle to find many fans like that.

Unless you want to get rid of the majority of our foreign fans

[claretonthecoast1882]

Think you will struggle to find many fans like that.

Unless you want to get rid of the majority of our foreign fans

There are 2 who seem to live for hammering the club for anything, both live in this country and neither attend many games if any at all.

You are right, thankfully there aren't many fans like those 2. Probably due to the fact rational people would just find something else to do with their time.

[Ightenhill_Claret]

I can't say I'm a fan of the font overall (it reminds me of an Oktoberfest poster!) but I'm not against a new 'strand' of branding being added. I think sometimes people want items of clothing that are a little more subtle and I can see how something like the B could work across a range. I've seen Pace's cap on a few pics and I quite like it.

[Newcastleclaret93]

There are 2 who seem to live for hammering the club for anything, both live in this country and neither attend many games if any at all.

You are right, thankfully there aren't many fans like those 2. Probably due to the fact rational people would just find something else to do with their time.

How do you know people don’t attend?

If you’re referring to me I have been at nearly every home game and attended two away games. Does that give me a right to have an opinion now? Or is that still not allowed?

[HollandsPies]

It's a 'typeface', not a 'font'.
Just saying.

[claretonthecoast1882]

How do you know people don’t attend?

If you’re referring to me I have been at nearly every home game and attended two away games. Does that give me a right to have an opinion now? Or is that still not allowed?

Of course everybody has the right to an opinion on anything they want you would expect that to be the case. Just as everyone also has a right to judge if that opinion has any relevance or value.

[TheFamilyCat]

Be nice if more were a bit more vocal on not watching our club slowly morph into a gentrified Watford type?

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[Nori1958]

I mean listen JJ Watt on the Pat Mcaffee show. It’s cringe worthy to listen to

Is that a show you watched before JJ got involved with Burnley?

[Benson]

How can anyone get so worked up about the font on the back of a football shirt. Early contender for the weirdest thread of the year award.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Is that a show you watched before JJ got involved with Burnley?

When the Super Bowl is on yes. Only reason I listened in was to see what our minority owner had to say.

[claretonthecoast1882]

How can anyone get so worked up about the font on the back of a football shirt. Early contender for the weirdest thread of the year award.

This thread will be outdone before end of the week by something more pointless being cried over, they can't help themselves

[aggi]

Only because fans allow it, we'd do well to take a leaf out of the German fans' books.

Again, I point to the Leeds fans' reaction when their owners (may have been previous owners) attempted a rebrand.

Have I missed a rebrand at Burnley?

[nyclaret]

Aston Villa is apparently the first to redesign their club crest under new Premier League guidelines.

Interestingly, the guidelines suggest that fans must be consulted. Who or how many, I’m not sure. FAB?

Anyway, credit to Villa, they look to have gone about their redesign the right way and they’ve done so without going ‘modern’. Hardly an earth shattering change, but I’d hope that if we were to change, we’d go about it in a similar way.

https://www.designweek.co.uk/issues/13- ... gon-rouge/

If that B is a sign of things to come, there’ll be uproar!

I'm pretty sure they're changing the crest again?

[Big Vinny K]

If ever a thread summed up this board in the last 6 months this would win hands down.

Comparing us to Watford is beyond ignorant. Shows a complete lack of understanding and knowledge as to what has happened in the last 10 or 15 years at both clubs.

Football has changed beyond all recognition in this country because of one thing….premier league money. The reason Burnley FC has changed is because we have reached the EPL several times and received the best part of a billion pounds in revenue. That’s several times more than we have a generated in total in the rest of our 120 year plus history. How can a club or any business not change when you are in the middle of this madhouse?

As it happens of all the clubs who have spent the best part of the last decade in the EPL Burnley has changed less than pretty much all other clubs.

If we had not reached the EPL or maybe spent a single season there then the club would be no doubt treading water like many of our neighbours or even worse ended up like Bolton or god forbid Bury.

All this money has 100% brought its downsides and there is a lot about the EPL to despise but it’s got to be better than mediocrity and struggle. Since 2009 and for the last 15 years are there many supporters of clubs with our background and size who have had as much enjoyment from their club as Burnley fans have had ?

Get upset about typeface versus the donkey lashers watching their owners taking every penny out of the club and half of your support boycotting going on the games for years……mmmm it’s a tough choice.

[sjb]

We held a competition in the early 70s to design a new crest. It was won by a gentleman called Edward Jolleys from Ashton-On-Ribble. I don't know if Mr J is still around but I do know nobody kicked up a fuss about losing the previous crest. Perhaps it's a good job the Internet wasn't around then.

[claret2018]

Peak Daily Mail comments section on this thread, getting wound up by stuff they’ve made up

[DingleDangle]

All that poster does is come on here and tell everyone how unbearable it is on here.

He should just not come on if it’s so unbearable.

He's right, it is unbearable on here this season. This thread is an example of what makes it unbearable. Another whinge about nothing in particular. It's a change of font style, that's all. Not really the end of the world is it?

However, just because somebody calls it out and has a different opinion to yourself, doesn't mean to say that you must respond with a "don't read it then" kind of response.

And who are you to tell someone that they shouldn't come on if they don't like it?

[Newcastleclaret93]

He's right, it is unbearable on here this season. This thread is an example of what makes it unbearable. Another whinge about nothing in particular. It's a change of font style, that's all. Not really the end of the world is it?

However, just because somebody calls it out and has a different opinion to yourself, doesn't mean to say that you must respond with a "don't read it then" kind of response.

And who are you to tell someone that they shouldn't come on if they don't like it?

Is it not the logical conclusion? He finds it absolutely unbearable, so why come on here read everything and then continually post how unbearable it is?

If it’s that unbearable stop reading

[DingleDangle]

Is it not the logical conclusion? He finds it absolutely unbearable, so why come on here read everything and then continually post how unbearable it is?

If it’s that unbearable stop reading

Or maybe just don't post ridiculous threads to be commented on.

Again though, who are you to tell someone not to come on, read it and make a comment such as that?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Or maybe just don't post ridiculous threads to be commented on.

Again though, who are you to tell someone not to come on, read it and make a comment such as that?

Haha I just find it funny.

He says it’s unbearable but continues anyway.

Clearly he doesn’t understand what unbearable means. It appears you don’t either.

[DingleDangle]

Haha I just find it funny.

What do you find funny exactly, as you certainly didn't seem amused?

He says it’s unbearable but continues anyway.

So? What makes you the 'Thread Police'?

Clearly he doesn’t understand what unbearable means. It appears you don’t either.

Put your fishing rod away for god sake

[Nori1958]

Haha I just find it funny.

He says it’s unbearable but continues anyway.

Clearly he doesn’t understand what unbearable means. It appears you don’t either.

There's plenty on here telling us that football at Burnley is unbearable at present... Yet say they go to the games.. No different really

[HahaYeah]

Thread went from someone showing a picture of a new font to now we're the new Norwich in no time.

[ClaretTony]

Thanks.

Who do we register them with?’is it a Trade Mark thing or with the FA?

It's not a football matter, it's registered with whoever to ensure it belongs to us. Until 1974 we'd never had a club badge. Once that had been trademarked, no one else could ever use it. Back around 2000, a shop in town used it and Andrew Watson threatened to sue them.

[NewClaret]

It's not a football matter, it's registered with whoever to ensure it belongs to us. Until 1974 we'd never had a club badge. Once that had been trademarked, no one else could ever use it. Back around 2000, a shop in town used it and Andrew Watson threatened to sue them.

Thanks Tony.

Good quiz question, this.

[Spike]

This is just the start of it!

Telling you - the new Watford

Sanitised, overpriced yanky doodle corporate crap.

Not keen on this cap. In my view the worse cap badge so far