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Actual Transfer News - NO BICKERING or pointless debates...
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:08 am
by burnley007
https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/tra ... his-month/
Interesting that Fofana wanted to go to Sevilla rather than Burnley, but I don't suppose it's that crazy a thought.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:09 am
by burnley007
https://insidefutbol.com/2024/01/19/hul ... ar/633758/
I think this would make real sense for everyone. Would be a major coup for Hull.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:12 am
by burnley007
Italy striker Moise Kean, 23, is close to making a loan move from Juventus to Atletico Madrid.
How is he still only 23???
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:36 am
by Kilson810
Will be a shame though as he would come in use next season
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:47 am
by Jamesy
No bickering or pointless debates? If we stick to this criteria the thread ain’t gonna last very long.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:08 am
by FeedTheArf
Yeah, even the most claret tinted specs in the world could understand that. It’s up to him now though to get his head down and make the most of it. I’m sure after the reports from Germany, he’ll want to show he can buckle down and put the work in.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
by jedi_master
Just cannot fathom the desire to sell Zaroury and Benson - Championship match winners, and that's where we are almost certain to be in a matter of months.
Instead we have:
Odobert - almost certain to be sold
Koleosho - bad injury, but likely to be sold you'd think
Bruun-Larsen - only on loan and incredibly inconsistent, not sure I would buy him regardless of league
Redmond - out for the season injured and seemingly out of Kompany's plans anyway
Churlinov - clearly no future at Burnley and in his incredibly brief appearances (I am thinking of his start away at Reading especially) didn't even look Championship level
JBG - a solid pro and squad man, but ageing and injury prone
Tresor - where do you even begin?
I would rather start the pair of them on each wing from now till the end of the season and re-integrate them ready for a promotion challenge than sell/loan/whatever them and need to somehow pick a pair of match winners out of the above.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:30 am
by randomclaret2
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
Just cannot fathom the desire to sell Zaroury and Benson - Championship match winners, and that's where we are almost certain to be in a matter of months.
Instead we have:
Odobert - almost certain to be sold
Koleosho - bad injury, but likely to be sold you'd think
Bruun-Larsen - only on loan and incredibly inconsistent, not sure I would buy him regardless of league
Redmond - out for the season injured and seemingly out of Kompany's plans anyway
Churlinov - clearly no future at Burnley and in his incredibly brief appearances (I am thinking of his start away at Reading especially) didn't even look Championship level
JBG - a solid pro and squad man, but ageing and injury prone
Tresor - where do you even begin?
I would rather start the pair of them on each wing from now till the end of the season and re-integrate them ready for a promotion challenge than sell/loan/whatever them and need to somehow pick a pair of match winners out of the above.
Is Enock Agyei anywhere near a return from injury. ? Will he be in the squad when he is ?
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:42 am
by burnley007
Zaroury on loan to the Championship makes sense. He's still developing.
Benson is prime selling value at 26. Not getting a game.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:50 am
by matttheclaret
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
Just cannot fathom the desire to sell Zaroury and Benson - Championship match winners, and that's where we are almost certain to be in a matter of months.
Instead we have:
Odobert - almost certain to be sold
Koleosho - bad injury, but likely to be sold you'd think
Bruun-Larsen - only on loan and incredibly inconsistent, not sure I would buy him regardless of league
Redmond - out for the season injured and seemingly out of Kompany's plans anyway
Churlinov - clearly no future at Burnley and in his incredibly brief appearances (I am thinking of his start away at Reading especially) didn't even look Championship level
JBG - a solid pro and squad man, but ageing and injury prone
Tresor - where do you even begin?
I would rather start the pair of them on each wing from now till the end of the season and re-integrate them ready for a promotion challenge than sell/loan/whatever them and need to somehow pick a pair of match winners out of the above.
Would agree with that but we have to consider the human emotions in all this too. Agreed if we were to go down, they'd be ideal for next season. But look at it from their perspective, they've already performed well for us at that level, and then been pretty much cast aside this season. Surely they'd have doubts over the merits of slaving away over a championship season once again to get promoted (hopefully) and then presumably be out of favour again.
That's the biggest problem I have with how easily Kompany has discarded players this season, he might well need to rely on these players again soon and I wouldn't blame them if their motivation was slightly less this time around.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:18 am
by TheFamilyCat
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
Just cannot fathom the desire to sell Zaroury and Benson - Championship match winners, and that's where we are almost certain to be in a matter of months.
Instead we have:
Odobert - almost certain to be sold
Koleosho - bad injury, but likely to be sold you'd think
Bruun-Larsen - only on loan and incredibly inconsistent, not sure I would buy him regardless of league
Redmond - out for the season injured and seemingly out of Kompany's plans anyway
Churlinov - clearly no future at Burnley and in his incredibly brief appearances (I am thinking of his start away at Reading especially) didn't even look Championship level
JBG - a solid pro and squad man, but ageing and injury prone
Tresor - where do you even begin?
I would rather start the pair of them on each wing from now till the end of the season and re-integrate them ready for a promotion challenge than sell/loan/whatever them and need to somehow pick a pair of match winners out of the above.
You are making an assumption that they are after a permanent deal.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:05 pm
by FeedTheArf
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
Just cannot fathom the desire to sell Zaroury and Benson - Championship match winners, and that's where we are almost certain to be in a matter of months.
Instead we have:
Odobert - almost certain to be sold
Koleosho - bad injury, but likely to be sold you'd think
Bruun-Larsen - only on loan and incredibly inconsistent, not sure I would buy him regardless of league
Redmond - out for the season injured and seemingly out of Kompany's plans anyway
Churlinov - clearly no future at Burnley and in his incredibly brief appearances (I am thinking of his start away at Reading especially) didn't even look Championship level
JBG - a solid pro and squad man, but ageing and injury prone
Tresor - where do you even begin?
I would rather start the pair of them on each wing from now till the end of the season and re-integrate them ready for a promotion challenge than sell/loan/whatever them and need to somehow pick a pair of match winners out of the above.
When you put it like that! The summer window is likely going to see another significant turnover of players. Makes perfect sense to keep hold of Benson and Zaroury, if they’re willing to stick around that is.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:23 pm
by ChorltonCharlie
Like most Burnley fans, I think the world of Benson. He's the kind of player you want to see in your team. He obviously played a key role in our promotion with vital goals. There's a but though. He's a player you use to make a difference against opposition that are backs against the wall. A lot of his key moments came in games last season where the opposition was set in a low block clinging on for points. So he actually did better coming off the bench (5 goals, 3 assists) than he did starting games (6 goals). He was never likely to be a regular starter this season after only making 14 last season. What's been more disappointing is we haven't used him in games where he could have made a difference. If he does leave permanently it will be a shame, but from a first xi point of view, in the cold light of day it's not the end of the world.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:32 pm
by Ric_C
The thing with Benson though was, that he was a much improved player in the last third of the season compared to the first 2 thirds. It's a shame he is so injury prone, still think he has much to offer us
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:40 pm
by Goliath
Kompany made what i thought was a telling comment a few weeks ago. They asked him about Benson and Zaroury in on if his press conferences and he said they are two different situations and hes told Zaroury that. Zarpury thrn started v Spurs.
It gave the distinct impression to me that its Benson he wants out the door permanently and Zaroury he is seeing as someone that is still developing and still in his long term plans.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:46 pm
by Vegas Claret
any danger at all we can just keep it to links, the other thread is for the debates
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:13 pm
by randomclaret2
Owen Dodgson joining Dundee on loan
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:17 pm
by Volvoclaret
newcasleclaret just signed for Blackburn forum, quoted as saying he feels more at home there.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:38 pm
by Stockbrokerbelt
Volvoclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:17 pm
newcasleclaret just signed for Blackburn forum, quoted as saying he feels more at home there.
It will be a free transfer then.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:54 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:46 pm
any danger at all we can just keep it to links, the other thread is for the debates
NOT A CHANCE!
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:55 pm
by northeastclaret
Volvoclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:17 pm
newcasleclaret just signed for Blackburn forum, quoted as saying he feels more at home there.
Great
I hope he takes the other half a dozen anti Burnley posters who dominate most threads with their miserable negativity.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:29 pm
by Carlos the Great
I was amazed we never signed Tella .. and will be equally unhappy if we sell benson
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:31 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Volvoclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:17 pm
newcasleclaret just signed for Blackburn forum, quoted as saying he feels more at home there.
The fan club is growing
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:50 pm
by claret2018
burnley007 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:12 am
Italy striker Moise Kean, 23, is close to making a loan move from Juventus to Atletico Madrid.
How is he still only 23???
He’s been 23 for about 10 years
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:05 pm
by BurnleyFC
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:18 am
Just cannot fathom the desire to sell Zaroury and Benson - Championship match winners, and that's where we are almost certain to be in a matter of months.
Instead we have:
Odobert - almost certain to be sold
Koleosho - bad injury, but likely to be sold you'd think
Bruun-Larsen - only on loan and incredibly inconsistent, not sure I would buy him regardless of league
Redmond - out for the season injured and seemingly out of Kompany's plans anyway
Churlinov - clearly no future at Burnley and in his incredibly brief appearances (I am thinking of his start away at Reading especially) didn't even look Championship level
JBG - a solid pro and squad man, but ageing and injury prone
Tresor - where do you even begin?
I would rather start the pair of them on each wing from now till the end of the season and re-integrate them ready for a promotion challenge than sell/loan/whatever them and need to somehow pick a pair of match winners out of the above.
Happen Vinny fancies picking another 5 new wingers up this summer?
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:19 pm
by Nori1958
Churlinov off to shalka on loan.... Option to purchase 3.5 mill.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:04 am
by burnmark
Michael Mellon to become the third loanee to Dundee.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:45 am
by GetIntoEm
Benson wants to leave, suits all parties to find him a deal. Simple as that
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:09 am
by Woodleyclaret
Benson wants to play get him in our team not strengthening Dirty Leeds at any price
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:15 am
by mybloodisclaret
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:09 am
Benson wants to play get him in our team not strengthening Dirty Leeds at any price
Im not sure why, but I would prefer not to be in the same league as Leeds next season.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:48 am
by Tricky Trevor
If DL sign Benson they are selling Summerville.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 2:53 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Gnonto not Summerville
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:15 am
by burnley007
Is Benson leaving?
Can't see any updates over the weekend. He looked almost gone last week, I wonder if there is a bidding war going on behind the scenes, (hopefully!)
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:30 am
by burnley007
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 12:04 pm
by burnley007
We certainly need more height!!
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:00 pm
by burnley007
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:37 pm
by Westleigh
Looks decent ,but I’d have thought we need a right winger unless VK is going to baffle everybody and play with inverted wingers as well as fullbacks ,obviously Benson is left footed but plays on the right.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:16 pm
by KRBFC
matttheclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:50 am
That's the biggest problem I have with how easily Kompany has discarded players this season, he might well need to rely on these players again soon and I wouldn't blame them if their motivation was slightly less this time around.
Why do people keep repeating this? The only players from last season he could be accused of discarding is Zaroury and Muric.
How is it VKs fault Benson missed all of preseason injured and 90% of the season injured? You want him to play Benson on crutches for the sake of not “discarding players”
It’s not VKs fault Cullen Roberts Al Dakhil etc haven’t been good enough either, they were rightly dropped after being given the chance. Nor is it VKs fault the club didn’t do the deals for Maatsen and Tella.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:23 pm
by summitclaret
"It’s not VKs fault Cullen Roberts Al Dakhil etc haven’t been good enough either, they were rightly dropped after being given the chance. Nor is it VKs fault the club didn’t do the deals for Maatsen and Tella."
It is his fault that Benson was not brought on at half time/or at all against Everton. It's also his fault that Al Dakhil lost his confidence from being played out of position at both left and right back.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:25 pm
by ecc
Sorry if mentioned elsewhere.
We don't know whether this true. If we were to loan him out then I would struggle to understand it.
https://southwarknews.co.uk/sport/footb ... -transfer/
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:28 pm
by DCWat
It’s one that makes perfect sense to me.
He needs game time, it puts him in the shop window (if selling is the aim) and it gets him ready for next season, should we decide to use him in the Championship, if we drop down.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 5:03 pm
by ecc
I'd agree if we've given up all hope of staying up (which I haven't - I am too much of an optimist).
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:06 pm
by criminalclaret
Posted by Fabrizio Romano now, so a bit more solidity than a local rag.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/174 ... 75839?s=20
It was an odd signing to begin with. I didn't think much of him in the Championship to think he would be an asset in the PL. Albeit barely saw much of him and Foster last season and the he gets injured for a long old while.
Interesting "what if" for when Foster was out I'll in November and Obefami was fully fit but suppose we'll never know now unless he comes back to us after the season is up.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:18 pm
by KlyBfc
KRBFC wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:16 pm
Why do people keep repeating this? The only players from last season he could be accused of discarding is Zaroury and Muric.
How is it VKs fault Benson missed all of preseason injured and 90% of the season injured? You want him to play Benson on crutches for the sake of not “discarding players”
It’s not VKs fault Cullen Roberts Al Dakhil etc haven’t been good enough either, they were rightly dropped after being given the chance. Nor is it VKs fault the club didn’t do the deals for Maatsen and Tella.
The interesting train of thought I have with Benson and his injuries is, why he had so little time off in the summer. Some of the players started training almost as soon as we’d finished the season and I’m intrigued to know if there’s any correlation between those injured and those who returned with little break. I can’t remember who they were apart from Benson (remember seeing a pic of him). That could be VKs fault if there was.
That aside (not sure if this has been mentioned within the threads) but the huge change in personnel shouldn’t come as a shock really as I’m sure VK has done at least one interview where he has openly admitted his style is to have a big turnover of players / constantly reinventing his teams.
Obafemi out on loan is sensible as others have said, hopefully we will get some positive incoming news soon.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:21 pm
by RVclaret
summitclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:23 pm
"It’s not VKs fault Cullen Roberts Al Dakhil etc haven’t been good enough either, they were rightly dropped after being given the chance. Nor is it VKs fault the club didn’t do the deals for Maatsen and Tella."
It is his fault that Benson was not brought on at half time/or at all against Everton. It's also his fault that Al Dakhil lost his confidence from being played out of position at both left and right back.
He came on against Everton and was ineffective.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:59 pm
by summitclaret
RVclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:21 pm
He came on against Everton and was ineffective.
Your right he came on after 82 minutes, have been warming up since half time. Utter madness, when 2 nil down.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:27 pm
by Carlos the Great
Makes me laugh when fans expect benson come on after 82 mins and score a hat trick
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:29 pm
by Big Vinny K
RVclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:21 pm
He came on against Everton and was ineffective.
Is that a serious comment ?
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:41 am
by alwaysaclaret
RVclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:21 pm
He came on against Everton and was ineffective.
Might be a good idea to give him the same chance that tresor and Ramsey have had, they've also been ineffective.
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:32 am
by RVclaret
Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:29 pm
Is that a serious comment ?
Yes.
