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Eric Dier

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:26 pm

Came on as a HT sub tonight for Bayern. Gave a post-match interview, in English, but gone full Joey Barton. Only there a week and he had a distinct German lilt on him.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Quicknick » Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:58 pm

He was brought up there, wasn't he?

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:14 am

Quicknick wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:58 pm
He was brought up there, wasn't he?
Portugal

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Quicknick » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:07 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:14 am
Portugal
Thanks. Just googled him. He lived for a while in Lagos where I have an apartment and played for Esperanca de Lagos's youth team. Their old ground is just down from where I lived. The new ground is a soulless affair on the eastern edge of the town. In the late '70s, Esperanca used to get crowds of almost 1,000 in the old ground. I bet there was some atmosphere.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:52 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:26 pm
Came on as a HT sub tonight for Bayern. Gave a post-match interview, in English, but gone full Joey Barton. Only there a week and he had a distinct German lilt on him.
Honestly this kind of comment pisses me off.

Ive been over here 30 years, if I call my sister in 10 minutes my Burnley comes back, but it doesn’t necessarily because she’s lived in Durham married to a Wearsider for 25 years so it’s sort of a hodgepodge. If I go back to Kentucky in 10 minutes my Kentucky comes back. If I go back to Virginia my Virginia comes back. In New Mexico, there isn’t really an accent, more of a Native American rhythm of accentuating certain things, kind of sounds like a Canadian doing a Spanish class. After 8 years here, I’m doing the rhythm.

Why do people think it’s so ******* weird that people that move around a lot (you know, like professional sportsmen) can just seemlessly fall back into a way of speaking that makes it easier to communicate?

It’s soooo weird 🤷
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Quicknick » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:10 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:52 am
Honestly this kind of comment pisses me off.

Ive been over here 30 years, if I call my sister in 10 minutes my Burnley comes back, but it doesn’t necessarily because she’s lived in Durham married to a Wearsider for 25 years so it’s sort of a hodgepodge. If I go back to Kentucky in 10 minutes my Kentucky comes back. If I go back to Virginia my Virginia comes back. In New Mexico, there isn’t really an accent, more of a Native American rhythm of accentuating certain things, kind of sounds like a Canadian doing a Spanish class. After 8 years here, I’m doing the rhythm.

Why do people think it’s so ******* weird that people that move around a lot (you know, like professional sportsmen) can just seemlessly fall back into a way of speaking that makes it easier to communicate?

It’s soooo weird 🤷
Totally agree.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Nori1958 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:58 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:52 am
Honestly this kind of comment pisses me off.

Ive been over here 30 years, if I call my sister in 10 minutes my Burnley comes back, but it doesn’t necessarily because she’s lived in Durham married to a Wearsider for 25 years so it’s sort of a hodgepodge. If I go back to Kentucky in 10 minutes my Kentucky comes back. If I go back to Virginia my Virginia comes back. In New Mexico, there isn’t really an accent, more of a Native American rhythm of accentuating certain things, kind of sounds like a Canadian doing a Spanish class. After 8 years here, I’m doing the rhythm.

Why do people think it’s so ******* weird that people that move around a lot (you know, like professional sportsmen) can just seemlessly fall back into a way of speaking that makes it easier to communicate?

It’s soooo weird 🤷
Does speaking English, with a German accent make it easier to communicate with Germans though?
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by bobinho » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:06 am

After 30 years, fair do’s and totally understandable.

After a week? 🤔🥴
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:10 am

Looking at his dates he seems to have spent about 13 year in Portugal and 17 in London, guess that explains why he has a German twang all of a sudden within 7 days.

There must be a lot of footage of him with a Portuguese accent.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:51 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:58 am
Does speaking English with a German accent make it easier to communicate with Germans, though?
My uncle lived in Germany; he worked there for as long as I could remember. He was working with Germans and people from all over the world, presumably speaking English.

Whenever he came home to visit, he spoke slowly with a German accent. My cousins, who are both in their 30s now, although fluent in English, German and French with English parents, have strong German accents and speak like him, very slowly and carefully.

His wife, my auntie, was an English Teacher, and she speaks pretty much with a Queens English accent now.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:28 am

You have to remember that he won’t realise and it’s because his new teammates are speaking English to him but obviously with a German accent, so he’s reflecting that. It’s a non issue for me

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by sjb » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:06 am

I believe in medical circles it's known as Steve McLaren Syndrome.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Swizzlestick » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:10 am

It's not even that bad, certainly not on a par with McClaren's comedy Dutch accent. Didn't he have a bit of an accent anyway due to his time in Portugal? Plus, he's talking to a German reporter by the sounds of it, so is probably just trying to fit in a bit.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by atlantalad » Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 am

And… because he speaks with an accent so exceedingly rare people on here have a go at him? 🙄
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by helmclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:16 pm

Have you never heard him talk before? He doesn’t have an English accent to start with.

Multilingual and a bright guy, good luck to him.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Sproggy » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:20 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:58 am
Does speaking English, with a German accent make it easier to communicate with Germans though?
Has he ever lived in Germany? What's he "falling back" in to?

I'm pretty sure that if your mate from Colne went to Torremolinos for a week and came back speaking like Pep Guardiola, you'd be taking the p***.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:25 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:52 am
If I go back to Kentucky in 10 minutes my Kentucky comes back.
I have the same problem at the Colne Road branch to be fair

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:37 pm

I find when I'm at an international conference and I'm talking to different people all over the world. I talk a bit like Eric Dyer does - nowhere near as bad as that though. You just reflect on how they are speaking to you.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:44 pm

Its similar to when I go to Burnley for the football (from down south) only for 1 day that I pick up an accent again to the horror of my other half, I lived there for 16 years before moving back south. It only takes a few hours conversing with people and you begin to assimilate the accent. It really is nothing more than that and as I said above, he is conversing with Germans speaking in English with him, so they will have a German accent and he has picked up on that.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:52 pm

my Mrs speaks in a completely different way after she's spoken to her dad on Skype for a few hours, H's get dropped and all sorts. Very easy to pick up the surroundings

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by equinox » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:11 pm

Whoever I'm speaking to, regardless of the circumstances, I speak exactly the same.

I don't order a Curry trying to sound like Ghandi or order a Pizza thinking I'm the Godfather.
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Nori1958 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:37 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:20 pm
Has he ever lived in Germany? What's he "falling back" in to?

I'm pretty sure that if your mate from Colne went to Torremolinos for a week and came back speaking like Pep Guardiola, you'd be taking the p***.
Not sure how your reply fits my post, however I don't have a mate in colne :lol: ....but if I had, and they did that, yes I would

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by helmclaret » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:15 pm

Sproggy wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:20 pm
Has he ever lived in Germany? What's he "falling back" in to?

I'm pretty sure that if your mate from Colne went to Torremolinos for a week and came back speaking like Pep Guardiola, you'd be taking the p***.
Dier doesn’t have an English accent.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by ChrisG » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:09 pm

I work in Germany. The accent I use when speaking English to my German colleagues has to be very different to the one I use when speaking to the Manchester office, as they simply don't understand my broad Lancashire accent.

It's about finding the best way to communicate with someone who doesn't speak English as a first language.
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by South West Claret. » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:32 pm

How Dier gets away with it being so slow I really don’t know.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:21 pm

ChrisG wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:09 pm
It's about finding the best way to communicate with someone who doesn't speak English as a first language.
It's called mirroring. It comes naturally when you want to fit in, but don't speak a word of their lingo, when all around you are fluent in English. Everyone does it to some extent.
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by claret_in_exile » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:49 am

bobinho wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:06 am
After 30 years, fair do’s and totally understandable.

After a week? 🤔🥴
This does happen for polyglots, actually. Lucky so-and-sos are gifted like that.

I spoke with a slight French tilt when I came home after being there for long enough, but certainly not within a week. OnceI had a conversation in French at Gatwick with another English person.

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Re: Eric Dier

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:45 am

ChrisG wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:09 pm
I work in Germany. The accent I use when speaking English to my German colleagues has to be very different to the one I use when speaking to the Manchester office, as they simply don't understand my broad Lancashire accent.

It's about finding the best way to communicate with someone who doesn't speak English as a first language.
Alleh facking lujah.

Someone gets it.
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Re: Eric Dier

Post by Claret86 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:57 pm

My uncle has lived in calgary for about 15 years. Last time I spoke to him he had a hybrid english/Canadian accent. By the time I finished speaking to him, his Burnley accent was coming back.
Dier is obviously copying the style of English his teammates will be using with him. He's then used it in an interview with someone else who is German and speaking that style of English. Added in that he didn't have an English accent to start with and that's why he's done it. But after what Joey Barton and Steve McClaren did, it does seem quite funny

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