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Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:47 pm
by ClaretTony
Does anyone know how to get the English commentary? It said red button but nothing working for me.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:54 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
It's quite funny listening to the Welsh commentary, sounds like they're swearing half of the time.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:55 pm
by ClaretTony
2-0 to Bournemouth after ten mins - still got Welsh commentary
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:59 pm
by JanetM
Me neither but have worked out that Bournemouth are already winning 2-0. And they have VAR.
Oh it's 3-0 now.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:00 pm
by ClaretTony
Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:54 pm
It's quite funny listening to the Welsh commentary, sounds like they're swearing half of the time.
They ******* are now, it’s 3-0.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:00 pm
by Conroysleftfoot
This could get very embarrassing for the Welsh, oh dear.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:04 pm
by aclaretinstevenage
I'm watching with the sound off while listening to commentary on Radio Solent on the BBC Sport web site..........only issue is that the Radio Commentary is a full minute behind the TV picture!
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:10 pm
by chekhov
Speaking personally I think I prefer the Welsh commentary. The English commentators are usually speaking a lot of nonsense anyway.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:14 pm
by dougcollins
Pretty much every relevant match up this season has shown how big the gap between the top two divisions has become.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:15 pm
by ClaretTony
chekhov wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:10 pm
Speaking personally I think I prefer the Welsh commentary. The English commentators are usually speaking a lot of nonsense anyway.
And apparently it’s Lee Trundle on the English commentary
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:20 pm
by ClaretTony
Bournemouth 4 Abertawe 0
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:25 pm
by chekhov
dougcollins wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:14 pm
Pretty much every relevant match up this season has shown how big the gap between the top two divisions has become.
Trying to play too much football. A bit like us this season.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:26 pm
by simonclaret
aclaretinstevenage wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:04 pm
I'm watching with the sound off while listening to commentary on Radio Solent on the BBC Sport web site..........only issue is that the Radio Commentary is a full minute behind the TV picture!
Pause the online commentary until it syncs.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:26 pm
by sound and vision
It's on You Tube with English commentary (S4C)
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:27 pm
by StayingDown4Ever
Bournemouth’s turnaround since punishing us is quite remarkable.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:29 pm
by ClaretTony
5-0
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:29 pm
by ClaretTony
StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:27 pm
Bournemouth’s turnaround since punishing us is quite remarkable.
They were shocking against us too and about to sack the manager
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:29 pm
by simonclaret
Incredible defending from the Swans.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:30 pm
by simonclaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:29 pm
They were shocking against us too and about to sack the manager
I thought our season was getting up and running when we took the lead.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:31 pm
by Vegas Claret
the gap is HUGE
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:31 pm
by claretburns
Iwan Roberts commentating for BBC Radio Wales, I listened to his Undr the Cosh podcast the other day, said Ternent tried to sign him for Burnley in the early 2000s but couldn't agree a fee with Norwich so we signed Gareth Taylor instead.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:32 pm
by dougcollins
chekhov wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:25 pm
Trying to play too much football. A bit like us this season.
I think we're partly responsible for this.
We set a blueprint last year of how a team can win in that division, it seems that all the other Championship sides are now playing a version of that and they're royally stuffed when playing a Prem team.
As we found out.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:32 pm
by StayingDown4Ever
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:29 pm
They were shocking against us too and about to sack the manager
Just think, if Trafford hadn’t been humiliated with that goal who knows what would have happened?
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:37 pm
by Owdsyker
Swansea with 52% possession losing 5 - 0. Draw your own conclusions.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:37 pm
by sound and vision
Look at the match stats, 53% possession for Swans and 8 shots to Bournemouth's 8!

Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:38 pm
by ClaretTony
StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:32 pm
Just think, if Trafford hadn’t been humiliated with that goal who knows what would have happened?
Not sure what Trafford was supposed to do. He was positioned exactly where we would want him to be. If Vitinho doesn’t give it away …..
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:38 pm
by Vegas Claret
I see the Boro and Swansea scores this week as a big problem for the English pyramid, it's going to be harder and harder for anyone to get promoted and stay up. That's not a healthy situation
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:42 pm
by dougcollins
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:38 pm
I see the Boro and Swansea scores this week as a big problem for the English pyramid, it's going to be harder and harder for anyone to get promoted and stay up. That's not a healthy situation
Could even be the three that went down to come up and replace the three that went up last season. All that can do is re-inforce the 'no relegation' mentality that appears to have some purchase in the PL.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:44 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:38 pm
I see the Boro and Swansea scores this week as a big problem for the English pyramid, it's going to be harder and harder for anyone to get promoted and stay up. That's not a healthy situation
Not really at all, these are one off games. Just to recall that a year ago Championship Burnley went to Premier League Bournemouth and beat them 4-2.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:46 pm
by chekhov
Yeah last season all the promoted teams did really well, so can’t read too much into what is most likely a temporary trend.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:55 pm
by Since62
I suppose this means our game against Bournemouth on March 2nd will now be moved?
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:56 pm
by chekhov
Since62 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:55 pm
I suppose this means our game against Bournemouth on March 2nd will now be moved?
So you’re dismissing a Swansea comeback??
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:56 pm
by kentonclaret
Abertawe could easily be translated as Abattoir. They’re getting slaughtered.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:56 pm
by ClaretTony
Since62 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:55 pm
I suppose this means our game against Bournemouth on March 2nd will now be moved?
The 5th round is in the preceding midweek
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:58 pm
by ClaretTony
I was thinking that Bournemouth had an advantage with a referee called England but then quickly reminded myself that no team has an advantage with this referee.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:03 pm
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:44 pm
Not really at all, these are one off games. Just to recall that a year ago Championship Burnley went to Premier League Bournemouth and beat them 4-2.
the PL has gotten a whole lot better in the last year, even the lower teams are much better than anyone in the Championship. A one off game makes it easier for the Championship teams to compete yet on the whole they don't. When Boro beat Chelsea a few weeks ago at the Riverside Chelsea missed enough chances to win 5 games.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:03 pm
by LeadBelly
I've been watching this on S4C (always worthwhile keeping an eye out on what's on Sgorio if you follow footy and/or rugby union).
You can turn the sound off and put subtitles on - they're in English. if you want to pick up the odd bit of Welsh you can keep the sound on and have the English subtitles.
un, dau, tri, pedwar, pump (chwech, saith, wyth?).
I notice Kyle Naughton is in the Swans team, 35 now - a couple of years older than Kyle Walker - the full back pairing from our Wembley game v blades (nearly 15 years ago

).
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:11 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:03 pm
the PL has gotten a whole lot better in the last year, even the lower teams are much better than anyone in the Championship. A one off game makes it easier for the Championship teams to compete yet on the whole they don't. When Boro beat Chelsea a few weeks ago at the Riverside Chelsea missed enough chances to win 5 games.
I don’t think it’s got a whole lot better in the last year at all. I think that view is coming from our inability to compete at this level which is very much more about us.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:16 pm
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:11 pm
I don’t think it’s got a whole lot better in the last year at all. I think that view is coming from our inability to compete at this level which is very much more about us.
Not really CT, you just need to look at the quality of both players and managers employed on the whole in this league now, then the amount they spend on players (it will be interesting to see how that continues now the PL is seemingly clamping down on FFP). No coincidence and entirely predictable that the bottom 3 are the promoted teams
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:22 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:16 pm
Not really CT, you just need to look at the quality of both players and managers employed on the whole in this league now, then the amount they spend on players (it will be interesting to see how that continues now the PL is seemingly clamping down on FFP). No coincidence and entirely predictable that the bottom 3 are the promoted teams
Predictable because the three teams who have come up have to a large extent failed with their preparations. This doesn’t mean the league has leapt forward in the last year and I don’t honestly think it has.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:24 pm
by Vegas Claret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:22 pm
Predictable because the three teams who have come up have to a large extent failed with their preparations. This doesn’t mean the league has leapt forward in the last year and I don’t honestly think it has.
well, we will agree to disagree

Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:25 pm
by ClaretTony
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:24 pm
well, we will agree to disagree
We will
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:34 pm
by Vegas Claret
dougcollins wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:42 pm
Could even be the three that went down to come up and replace the three that went up last season. All that can do is re-inforce the 'no relegation' mentality that appears to have some purchase in the PL.
I suspect all 3 will come back up or at least 2 of them, play-offs is a lottery
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:34 pm
by ClaretTony
David Brooks is the Seren Y Gêm which I guess is man of the match
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:35 pm
by ClaretTony
And no goals in the second half, Bournemouth win 5-0.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:36 pm
by Goliath
Teams have their pressing systems so well drilled now that teams from a lower level are found out straight away when they try to play out from the back. Managers never learn though. Even at Bournemouth away last season when we played so well we still got caught out playing out.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:38 pm
by ClaretTony
Goliath wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:36 pm
Teams have their pressing systems so well drilled now that teams from a lower level are found out straight away when they try to play out from the back. Managers never learn though. Even at Bournemouth away last season when we played so well we still got caught out playing out.
We only got caught out because of one horrendous pass from Cullen
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:49 pm
by Vegas Claret
I think your point about failure to prepare properly is very valid, especially us given we were up so early

Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:50 pm
by Goliath
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:38 pm
We only got caught out because of one horrendous pass from Cullen
Yep but their pressure caused the mistake. Just watched it back again, they had bodies everywhere ready to pounce and i think that pressure directly caused the bad pass. In hindsight it was a sign of what was to come at this level for Cullen, he just doesnt have the awareness or composure required at the top level for the role hes asked to play.
Re: Bournemouth v Abertawe (Swansea)
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:55 pm
by Vegas Claret
Goliath wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:50 pm
Yep but their pressure caused the mistake. Just watched it back again, they had bodies everywhere ready to pounce and i think that pressure directly caused the bad pass. In hindsight it was a sign of what was to come at this level for Cullen, he just doesnt have the awareness or composure required at the top level for the role hes asked to play.
Even though they are very different players Cullen reminds me a little of Brownhill in his first season in the PL, just that fraction of a second slow in thought and that's lethal at this level - he's already 27 so he should be hitting his true peak levels soon enough (whatever they may be). When you consider how imperious he was last season I've been surprised by him, I thought he was one who would step up comfortably.