Muric
Beyer O'Shea Esteve Taylor

Berge Brownhill

Fofana Amdouni Odabert

Foster

Muric

Roberts. Ekdal. Esteve. Taylor

Brownhill. Cullen.

Fofana. Berge. Odebert

Foster.

Muric
Roberts
OShea
Ekdal
Esteve
Vitinho
Cullen
Brownhill
Berge
Fofana
Foster

Trafford

Vitinho O’Shea Ekdal esteve Roberts
Brownhill Berge
Fofana Foster Odobert

Muric
Roberts
O'Shea
Esteve
Taylor
Cullen
Brownhill
Berge
Fofana
Foster
Odobert

We can leave Taylor out of any teams selections for Fulham, and for the foreseeable for that matter.

Purely based on effort level last night I would go:

Trafford
Roberts, Al Dakhil, O’Shea, Vitinho
Brownhill, Berge, Ramsey
Fofana, Foster, Odobert

Trafford

New Ekdal esteve new

Brownhill. Berge

Jbg. Odobert.

Fofana. Foster

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:49 am

Trafford

New Ekdal esteve new

Brownhill. Berge

Jbg. Odobert.

Fofana. Foster

Good luck with that

Pointless putting Muric down he won't start.

No Tresor I see. Oops

Our most expensive signing nowhere to be seen. Is he injured?

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:51 am

Good luck with that

Well looks like we are getting a rb just need a lb now

LongsideClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:46 am

We can leave Taylor out of any teams selections for Fulham, and for the foreseeable for that matter.

How long is he out for then?

It is absolutely time for Amdouni to come out, and has been for ages. If we’d stopped the 442 earlier I feel certain we’d have picked up far more points:

———————————————-Trafford
NEW RB———-Ekdal/DO’S——————Esteve—————-Al-Dakhil/Taylor
————————————————Cullen
——————————-Berge——————-Brownhill
—————Fofana——————-Foster—————Odobert

James Trafford and 10 others...the haters really need to let this young kid get on with his job ...he will develop into one of the best keepers this country has ever produced...Muric dosent come close to this kid.

How long off are Beyer and Taylor?

Amdouni needs resting / dropping, he's had enough chances for me

Not sure what Muric has to do to earn a go in the side, but I guess VK is going to die on that hill

Trafford
Meunier O'Shea Delcroix Oosterwolde
Gueye Berge
Tresor Ramsey Odobert
Foster

Even though Odobert was really bad vs City he gets another shot.

Same as last night’s lot I suppose just get them to play better.

Just remember we usually beat Fulham at home and very rarely lose to them.

Another 5-0 win will do nicely.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:19 am

Well looks like we are getting a rb just need a lb now

Having read through the "he is/he isn't" on the transfer threads I'm no closer to knowing if we're getting a RB, or anyone else for that matter!

—————————-Trafford
Assignon——O’Shea——Ekdal——Esteve
Zaroury——Berge——Brownhill—Odobert
———-———Amdouni—Foster

Trafford
Roberts - O'Shea - Ekdal - Esteve
Brownhill - Cullen
Fofana - Berge - Odobert or Zaroury
Foster

Ideally we need a new RB and LB, but gone with what we will likely have available.

Ric_C wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:25 am

How long off are Beyer and Taylor?

Amdouni needs resting / dropping, he's had enough chances for me

Not sure what Muric has to do to earn a go in the side, but I guess VK is going to die on that hill

Trafford will play, even with a broken leg

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:23 am

James Trafford and 10 others...the haters really need to let this young kid get on with his job ...he will develop into one of the best keepers this country has ever produced...Muric dosent come close to this kid.

The main reason we're where we are I'm afraid, but as the saying goes, wouldn't do for us all to be the same, could be anybody for me not just muric, as long as it's not this one.

-----------Muric
Vitinho-O'Shea-Ekdal-Esteve
--------Massengo-Berge
Fofana---Brownhill----Odobert
-------------Foster

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:23 am

James Trafford and 10 others...the haters really need to let this young kid get on with his job ...he will develop into one of the best keepers this country has ever produced...Muric dosent come close to this kid.

Not sure what you've seen to make such a statement but even if that was true

We need to win some games and play our game, lets get on the front foot with the big man between the sticks.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:58 am

—————————-Trafford
Assignon——O’Shea——Ekdal——Esteve
Zaroury——Berge——Brownhill—Odobert
———-———Amdouni—Foster

From what I've researched and read, esteve is a centre back, not a left back, we've had enough players playing out of position, let's not do it with this one. Hopefully Taylor makes it, but if not Al dakhill did an OK job considering. But I'm hoping esteve will add some steel to the centre.

Trafford
Vitinho
O Shea
Esteves
Al Dakhil
Gudmundsson
Berge
Brownhill
Odobert
Foster
Fofana

HahaYeah wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:58 am

Trafford
Vitinho
O Shea
Esteves
Al Dakhil
Gudmundsson
Berge
Brownhill
Odobert
Foster
Fofana

Prefer muric, and looks like assingon is here so in at right back, but I'd go with this otherwise.

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:52 am

The main reason we're where we are I'm afraid, but as the saying goes, wouldn't do for us all to be the same, could be anybody for me not just muric, as long as it's not this one.

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion as to the relative merits of Trafford and Muric but to say that Trafford is "the main reason we are where we are" is just blatantly incorrect.

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:54 am

Not sure what you've seen to make such a statement but even if that was true

We need to win some games and play our game, lets get on the front foot with the big man between the sticks.

I respect your opinion but if Ederson was to keep goal for us for the rest of the season it still wouldn't make a jot of difference to our performances the constant pushing on this message for Muric to play isn't going to happen..move on.

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:07 pm

Prefer muric, and looks like assingon is here so in at right back, but I'd go with this otherwise.

Don't know anything about Assignons status but having watched Esteve v Montpellier on Sunday would put him straight in for Ekdal.

We need an upgrade on Vitinho though.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 1:16 pm

I respect your opinion but if Ederson was to keep goal for us for the rest of the season it still wouldn't make a jot of difference to our performances the constant pushing on this message for Muric to play isn't going to happen..move on.

Of course it would - he's possibly the best/joint best keeper in World Football.

...............Trafford

Vitinho - O'Shea - Delcroix - Al-Dakhil

JBG - Brownhill - Berge - Odobert

...............Jay - Foster

Gone with the squad as it is confirmed right now. Delcroix did well with O'Shea against Spurs. Al-Dakhil only option for left back really. For me, our best spell this season came when Jay was in the side. I'd like to see how he might compliment Foster up front.

Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 12:42 pm

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion as to the relative merits of Trafford and Muric but to say that Trafford is "the main reason we are where we are" is just blatantly incorrect.

Well as I've said, it wouldn't do for us all to be the same.

Was assuming that Delcroix, along with Beyer and Taylor are injured.

HahaYeah wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:13 pm

Was assuming that Delcroix, along with Beyer and Taylor are injured.

ah. Esteve or Ekdal then.

Trafford
New - O'Shea - Ekdal - Beyer/Esteve - Taylor/New
Berge - Cullen - Brownhill
Fofana - Foster

Is what I'd like to see.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:23 am

James Trafford and 10 others...the haters really need to let this young kid get on with his job ...he will develop into one of the best keepers this country has ever produced...Muric dosent come close to this kid.

Is this a bold statement or a wind up?

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:06 pm

Is this a bold statement or a wind up?

His handling last night in the first 10 mins was dreadful,and unlike Muric who passes the ball out with his feet Trafford waits until he’s closed down and 75 % of the time kicks it to the opposition.and like to see the stats last night for his pass completion.

Trafford give the ball away 4 out of 5 time every time he kicks into the opposition half ,and that’s surely not good enough

Westleigh wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:31 pm

IMG_1492.png Trafford give the ball away 4 out of 5 time every time he kicks into the opposition half ,and that’s surely not good enough

Give the witch-hunt up pal,there is 10 others playing you know that don't you?

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:06 pm

Is this a bold statement or a wind up?

It's what it's says...you got a problem with it?

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:34 pm

Give the witch-hunt up pal,there is 10 others playing you know that don't you?

Not a witch hunt VK’s into stats so how can he justify playing a guy when the system we play requires a keeper than can do more than just shot stopping,oh and I’m not your pal,pal

Westleigh wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:31 pm

IMG_1492.png Trafford give the ball away 4 out of 5 time every time he kicks into the opposition half ,and that’s surely not good enough

It's more than using bits of stats like this tbf

I've banged on about this far too much on here to me it boils down to:

- If we want to be a team that plays out and moves the ball on the deck with pace on the front foot, then Muric is your man

- If you want a more 'traditional' shot stopping keeper with ok distribution, then Traff is your man

To me, I think our ball progression is notably better with Muric - and it's not just about %s in accuracy, it's the vision/speed/trajectory of passing.

You can have ridiculously high short passing % metrics if you're just rolling it out to a centre half or full-back. Stats like that don't paint a full picture.

To me, all I care about is playing who gives us the best chance of winning a game - not necessarily who's the best or who will be the best in 3/5/10 years, or who will most ROI on.

It's all about assembling the best individuals for the team, not necessarily the best individuals.

Westleigh wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:37 pm

oh and I’m not your pal,pal

That's a bonus

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:44 pm

That's a bonus

Really clever ,you laugh at your own jokes,how about coming up with some stats to show how good Trafford is ?

Westleigh wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:31 pm

IMG_1492.png Trafford give the ball away 4 out of 5 time every time he kicks into the opposition half ,and that’s surely not good enough

Probably doesn't help that our outfield are dreadful at winning headers and generally very weak challenging for the ball.

Kilson810 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:48 pm

Probably doesn't help that our outfield are dreadful at winning headers and generally very weak challenging for the ball.

Exactly...but he thinks Trsfford is our only problem, he thinks Muric will keep us up if he gets a run

Kilson810 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:48 pm

Probably doesn't help that our outfield are dreadful at winning headers and generally very weak challenging for the ball.

Possibly ,but we didn’t have much problem last season ,and Foster was playing up front in some of the games .

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:52 pm

Exactly...but he thinks Trsfford is our only problem, he thinks Muric will keep us up if he gets a run

If I’m the ‘he’ your talking about then he didn’t say that Muric was the answer,however James Trafford may be the best goalkeeper in the World in 5 years ,but this season we need a guy who is good now.