I really want to see the VK reaction to what we witnessed today, anyone seen it and got a link at all?

This is one where he needs to hold his hands up and accept he got it wrong.

Kompany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyireQjhQMY

Wow he must have been at a different game to me

He’s protecting his job. Pace will believe whatever he says

He is totally gone. Hasn’t got a clue and looks increasingly shell shocked. Looks like he knows his brand is shot

His comment that there was nothing in the first half other than 2 mistakes by us left me sitting my tea out in disbelief. First half performance was almost non league standard.
Forfana changed the game but why oh why did he start with amdouni who has been given chance after change but is essentially just “meh”

He’s right that we started the first half quite well. We were the better side until Fulham scored the corner.

I was quite pleased with that interview. What he said was very different than what he communicated. Very upset and annoyed that we did not win that football match… he did not see the come back as much to celebrate as a result.

He knows himself this is now time to stop stroking egos to improve performances and belief. Now it about those up for a fight and taking three not one point from clubs like Fulham.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:41 pm

He’s right that we started the first half quite well. We were the better side until Fulham scored the corner.

Quite right, we were looking good but like so many times this season, conceding a goal knocked the stuffing out of us.

Culmclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:39 pm

He is totally gone. Hasn’t got a clue and looks increasingly shell shocked. Looks like he knows his brand is shot

He’ll never work at this level again unless it’s with us so that’s a bonus from our point of view. He has to get it right next season or he is gone. Will probably make a good pundit occasionally with Keane for the City match.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:52 pm

He’ll never work at this level again unless it’s with us so that’s a bonus from our point of view. He has to get it right next season or he is gone. Will probably make a good pundit occasionally with Keane for the City match.

I don’t think he will get us back up. We are in for another rebuild next season in the championship and he has to recruit correctly not the blunderbuss approach to signing players.

I think VKs a busted flush.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:57 pm

I don’t think he will get us back up. We are in for another rebuild next season in the championship and he has to recruit correctly not the blunderbuss approach to signing players.

I think VKs a busted flush.

I’ve got to agree tbh my patience has completely gone with him, he needs to go but Pace can’t afford to pot his pin up.

A stupid long contact and we’re back in the Dyche situation again!

I think those of you calling VK a busted flush really need to give their heads a wobble.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:40 pm

I think those of you calling VK a busted flush really need to give their heads a wobble.

Why?

Is 13 points at this stage of the season acceptable to you?

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:40 pm

I think those of you calling VK a busted flush really need to give their heads a wobble.

He isnt a busted flush but he's definitely lost any clarity of thought. That formation today was absolutely nonsensical and has me seriously doubting whether he should stay in the job if im honest. Up until recently ive seen us progressing throughout the season, with the tactics developing along the way to a more cautious system.

Today he just decided to throw it all out of the window and try an untested system in a huge game. It wasnt the decision of a man thinking rationally and worries me massively.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:59 pm

I’ve got to agree tbh my patience has completely gone with him, he needs to go but Pace can’t afford to pot his pin up.

A stupid long contact and we’re back in the Dyche situation again!

We only pay out his long contract until he would work again, which wouldn’t be long, so yes we can afford to sack him.

Shame for you though is he’s here for the foreseeable which I’m personally pleased about

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:59 pm

I’ve got to agree tbh my patience has completely gone with him, he needs to go but Pace can’t afford to pot his pin up.

A stupid long contact and we’re back in the Dyche situation again!

If only we were in the Dyche situation...

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:41 pm

He’s right that we started the first half quite well. We were the better side until Fulham scored the corner.

Christ on a bike! Clutching at straws!

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:40 pm

I think those of you calling VK a busted flush really need to give their heads a wobble.

Are you seriously happy with the football we pay to watch?

Any other manager that isn’t a media darling is potted by now.

funny thing is the first 6-7 months under Dyche was crap and people were calling for him to be potted. Good job we stuck with him. VK didn't have that spell and hit the ground running, now he is in that period and no doubt it's the same people wanting him potted. Truly laughable.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:35 pm

Are you seriously happy with the football we pay to watch?

Any other manager that isn’t a media darling is potted by now.

Out of interest who would you want to replace him?

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:49 pm

Why?

Is 13 points at this stage of the season acceptable to you?

It is extremely disappointing. I’m sure everyone agree’s that much. However, I can see old mantras like Rome was not built in a day and previous managers I recall coming in and being honest… Stan’s it will get worse before it gets better etc. And see VK and Pace are trying to get results while having a long range plan; one they believe in enough to not allow setbacks to derail them.

Holtyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:08 pm

We only pay out his long contract until he would work again, which wouldn’t be long, so yes we can afford to sack him.

Shame for you though is he’s here for the foreseeable which I’m personally pleased about

He would just sit it out until another club offered him better terms so it could take time he wouldn't be in demand from any of the so called bigger clubs & I don't see a Rotherham or a Ipswich trumping his existing terms.

Robbie_painter wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:37 pm

Out of interest who would you want to replace him?

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

Holtyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:08 pm

We only pay out his long contract until he would work again, which wouldn’t be long, so yes we can afford to sack him.

Shame for you though is he’s here for the foreseeable which I’m personally pleased about

You’re pleased we are being relegated with a whimper. Hmm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:42 pm

It is extremely disappointing. I’m sure everyone agree’s that much. However, I can see old mantras like Rome was not built in a day and previous managers I recall coming in and being honest… Stan’s it will get worse before it gets better etc. And see VK and Pace are trying to get results while having a long range plan; one they believe in enough to not allow setbacks to derail them.

Stan wasn’t at the top of the English game. It’s completely different.

I don’t see anything but a stubborn and some times arrogant approach to tactics and formations from Kompany.

He’s believed his own hype.

Holtyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:08 pm

We only pay out his long contract until he would work again, which wouldn’t be long, so yes we can afford to sack him.

Shame for you though is he’s here for the foreseeable which I’m personally pleased about

Who’s taking him? Who’s taking him on a better contract?

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:48 pm

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

Anyone that doesn’t play awful youth team players on a weekly basis would do me.

Must be demoralising to know you have such weak players in such key positions before the whistle goes who almost guarantee two goals going in the wrong net every game.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:50 pm

Who’s taking him? Who’s taking him on a better contract?

Hopefully some insane Saudi please help us

1) we still need a captain
2) 5 subs shows the selection was wrong. Berge covering the back 4 shows your defence is desperate. Luke on his own shows we had no hope
3) there are teams that will outclass us throughout the league but we don’t even have the basics that a keagueb2 club have
4) 3 good new signings

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:51 pm

Anyone that doesn’t play awful youth team players on a weekly basis would do me.

Must be demoralising to know you have such weak players in such key positions before the whistle goes who almost guarantee two goals going in the wrong net every game.

It’s hard to look at that defence and think anything but.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:51 pm

Hopefully some insane Saudi please help us

Kompany won’t go there. That’s an almost instant career retirement.

One thing Kompany appears to be is a grafter.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:48 pm

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

Has McKenna walked the Championship ? What makes you think he would do a better job than VK ? He has no body of work to prove he would be better and this is the problem

As for the other two.............dunno what you are smoking but can I have some it must be good

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:50 pm

Who’s taking him? Who’s taking him on a better contract?

That's exactly what I'm thinking he won't be in much demand the way things are going. They can't afford to sack him it's plain & simple. Everton did us a favour before because dyche was worth going for he was more proven no clubs bigger than Everton will want Kompany & the clubs that might want him will be more prudent & cautious.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:56 pm

Has McKenna walked the Championship ? What makes you think he would do a better job than VK ? He has no body of work to prove he would be better and this is the problem

As for the other two.............dunno what you are smoking but can I have some it must be good

I acknowledged that McKenna is a risk and we might end up in the same situation.

I don’t think either of those are bad options. I think they’re both achievable, we’re not a small club anymore.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:48 pm

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

Jose Mourinho? Come on, you can’t be serious.

There’s more chance of us being able to lure Sir Alex Ferguson out of retirement.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:48 pm

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

Robbie_painter wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:23 pm

I had the same reaction.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:48 pm

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

Get yourself to bed pal. That enough internet for this week.

They got a deflection, a lucky second and 1 other shot in the first half. Trafford makes some good saves in 2nd half and overall we had a better Xg 1.76 to 1.28

All 3 new signings looked promising

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:50 pm

Quite right, we were looking good but like so many times this season, conceding a goal knocked the stuffing out of us.

We do that most games. Look decent for 10 minutes or so, fail to really trouble the keeper, then the opposing team get a grip and we drift out of the game. Often we concede and then when we do they look beaten.

This side has zero chance of remotely looking like it might stay up. And I'd say it's 50/50 whether it can make a half decent stab at promotion next season.

We are a total embarrasment

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:48 pm

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

Hell fire, I’ve read it all now.

You do realise that Mourinho was on £10m at Roma and Lopetegui on £8m at Wolves? Not far fetched at all

Holtyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:08 pm

We only pay out his long contract until he would work again, which wouldn’t be long, so yes we can afford to sack him.

Shame for you though is he’s here for the foreseeable which I’m personally pleased about

If we sacked him nobody at the top level would touch him. He looks completely shell-shocked and broken right now.

If he starts Amdouni again this season he should be sacked on the spot

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:48 pm

That is a very good question, I don’t think there’s a viable option currently.

I’d love McKenna but you run the risk of being right where we started as he’s unproven. Plus, he ain’t coming to swop places.

I think I’d take OGS but I think that’s a risk…

But my top two would be (1st) Lopatagui (sp) or I would try and try to get Jose. I don’t think that’s a s far fetched as you might think.

God I love this forum.

If we accept we will be relegated it will mean Kompany has failed in his first attempt at managing in the PL . I think that can be accepted considering he is still a relatively new manager and it is widely regarded as the best league in the world
What is unacceptable is what we are witnessing on this thread. Luckily its only a very small minority who are getting carried away in their own little world by discussing managerial replacements for him.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:49 pm

You’re pleased we are being relegated with a whimper. Hmm

Not at all pleased with how the seasons gone. It’s been a steep learning curve (too steep) for the squad and manager. Both will be far more ready for a 2nd attempt.

Like Dyche was after his first failed attempt and he didn’t do too bad.

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:48 pm

If we sacked him nobody at the top level would touch him. He looks completely shell-shocked and broken right now.

If he starts Amdouni again this season he should be sacked on the spot

I’ll politely disagree on both your points, in fact twice on your first.

All hypothetical as he’ll be with us a good while yet.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:43 pm

He would just sit it out until another club offered him better terms so it could take time he wouldn't be in demand from any of the so called bigger clubs & I don't see a Rotherham or a Ipswich trumping his existing terms.

He’s not the type to sit around and he’d have plenty of offers I’m sure. As a young manager he needs to continue working to develop himself too. He’s already a v wealthy man so I doubt the over importance of his salary over his career choices.

He’ll be with us at least until next Christmas anyhoo

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:42 pm

It is extremely disappointing. I’m sure everyone agree’s that much. However, I can see old mantras like Rome was not built in a day and previous managers I recall coming in and being honest… Stan’s it will get worse before it gets better etc. And see VK and Pace are trying to get results while having a long range plan; one they believe in enough to not allow setbacks to derail them.

That's just a roundabout way of saying "The Project", which is getting rather boring now.