He was SO far off it today.

He was always 2 yards off the play. He showed zero composure on the ball and a huge lack of bravery and quality when he did get it. I could have done what he did and just lay the ball sideways and backwards all the time when there’s time and space. At this level and/or in that system he’s miles off it.

If he’s playing I think it needs to be in that no 10 role where he can help us to press high up the pitch and where he’s not deep enough to be someone who has to try and control the game. He’s an effort player at this level and doesn’t have enough quality.

Leave the lad alone FFS. Try supporting our captain. He’s up against World Cup winning players

Jeeeeezzzzz !!!

67% pass accuracy, which, when most of his passes are 5 yarders, rather than defence splitting forward passes, isn’t good enough.

I've had enough of him.

The only Brownhill that should be near Turf Moor, is the Avenue.

Bowclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:18 pm

Leave the lad alone FFS. Try supporting our captain. He’s up against World Cup winning players

Jeeeeezzzzz !!!

Who?

I’m not going to say anything

Playing top of the league in arguably the hardest position to play, someone like Brownhill will always look well out of his depth. I’d not single him out as though it’s a great piece of analysis, I would expect 90% of players in that position would have struggled today and they’d have been signed for big money

Awayfromburnley wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:20 pm

I've had enough of him.

The only Brownhill that should be near Turf Moor, is the Avenue.

Touché

Not going to dig him out but I feel we'd be a better unit with JBG playing in midfield in a three

Brownhill, Ramsey, Amdouni the 3 worst players last week, all started today.

Baffling

Bad set pieces, but does have an assist for our goal

Ric_C wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:25 pm

Brownhill, Ramsey, Amdouni the 3 worst players last week, all started today.

Baffling

The worst 3 today as well for my money.
Outfield anyway.

Berge isn’t able to be the proper Berge due to not having a player of his quality next to him. Brownhill very good champ player, nothing more than squad player in the prem

Ric_C wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:25 pm

Brownhill, Ramsey, Amdouni the 3 worst players last week, all started today.

Baffling

Ramsey good today.

It doesn’t matter who he was playing against today, he still had numerous opportunities to show more composure and quality on the ball. Unfortunately, I don’t think he has got the required level of those attributes to play effectively at this level in that role/shape.

He’s ok in champ if we get promoted he needs to be sold!

I thought it was his best game this season.

He had a corner miss the first man.

He's always been a very good Championship player who's a bit leggy and half a yard slow physically & mentally at this level. Damn good trier, battler with more heart than a few of the new lads, jack of all trades who's not terrible at anything but he's exactly the same with Kompany at this level as he was with Dyche. The next best option for his position so a starter, but just a shade not good enough and it results in hit-miss games most games.
Not going to rip into him for it though, is what it is.

Awayfromburnley wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:20 pm

I've had enough of him.

The only Brownhill that should be near Turf Moor, is the Avenue.

#me too

Simply passes under no pressure and misses target by miles.

He's still playing Dyche negative football.

Massengo needs a chance in his place. Brownhill is not our future

No point worrying about Josh we won’t be playing at this level for much longer. Recruitment must do better if we get back up.

We need to be looking in Africa for the next makelele.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:30 pm

Ramsey good today.

Excuse me?

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:30 pm

Ramsey good today.

Average at best I'd say RV, I wouldn't say he was good !

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:22 pm

I’m not going to say anything

Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah
Hallelujah




Hallelujah!

Would like him to stay next season, but if he fancies a move to a Premier League club, he’ll end up with a lot of splinters in his arse.

at 28 it's unlikely he's going to improve dramatically at this point of his career. One of those players that is very comfortable at the top end of Championship but not quite at the current PL level. Hits 7's and 8's out of 10 most weeks in the Championship but I'd say struggles to get beyond a 6 in the PL most weeks. That could be down to those around him as well and the constant tinkering. He's not a bad player by any stretch of the imagination though

I like Josh and can forgive him his limitations at this level. He's not the loudest on the field and could have done with one or two stronger characters to help him.
What must he think of the massive turnaround in players this season ?

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:26 pm

What must he think of the massive turnaround in players this season ?

probably has horrified as the rest of us

Anyone think Beyer when fit would actually be a better option next to Berge then brownhill?

Beyer has the ability to get past people, can play balls through the lines, can win headers and reads the game well

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:40 pm

Anyone think Beyer when fit would actually be a better option next to Berge then brownhill?

Beyer has the ability to get past people, can play balls through the lines, can win headers and reads the game well

Could you imagine if we actually got Lokonga

Them two in midfield would be great

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:43 pm

Could you imagine if we actually got Lokonga

Them two in midfield would be great

Yeah it’s a shame lokonga deal never happened.

At this stage now I’d probably stick Massengo next to Berge to over brownhill, if kompany can trust Trafford, koleosho, Ramsey and odobert, no reason to not stick Massengo in now

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:54 pm

Yeah it’s a shame lokonga deal never happened.

At this stage now I’d probably stick Massengo next to Berge to over brownhill, if kompany can trust Trafford, koleosho, Ramsey and odobert, no reason to not stick Massengo in now

especially if Josh wants to go

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:30 pm

Ramsey good today.

Jeez you must have been watching a different game to me.

Not PL standard and never has been.

roperclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:31 pm

Jeez you must have been watching a different game to me.

No I have to agree, I thought Ramsey had a good game, he did the job he was asked which was to stop Robertson and with his honestly and looking for the one two from Amdouni has ended up on the end of a VAR shocker

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:13 pm

especially if Josh wants to go

You’d imagine we would exercise the year clause in his contract and look to sell in the summer, can’t allow someone else before 30 to leave for free

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:40 pm

Anyone think Beyer when fit would actually be a better option next to Berge then brownhill?

Beyer has the ability to get past people, can play balls through the lines, can win headers and reads the game well

Oh I so do agree!!!
And possibly fall back at times and build a three backline.

Claret1900 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:35 pm

Oh I so do agree!!!
And possibly fall back at times and build a three backline.

Yes. Fantastic idea to play a defender in midfield.

Jesus wept.

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:35 pm

You’d imagine we would exercise the year clause in his contract and look to sell in the summer, can’t allow someone else before 30 to leave for free

100%

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:37 pm

Jesus Wept.

can he play in midfield ?

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:35 pm

You’d imagine we would exercise the year clause in his contract and look to sell in the summer, can’t allow someone else before 30 to leave for free

Got a 5m move to Everton in summer all over him

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:44 pm

can he play in midfield ?

Panama international, I believe.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:44 pm

Got a 5m move to Everton in summer all over him

He really hasn't.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:38 pm

I thought it was his best game this season.

He had a corner miss the first man.

That's a first in itself then

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:40 pm

Anyone think Beyer when fit would actually be a better option next to Berge then brownhill?

Beyer has the ability to get past people, can play balls through the lines, can win headers and reads the game well

Beyer has been generally poor in his more natural position at this level no chance would better than Brownhill in midfield

KlyBfc wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:06 pm

Beyer has been generally poor in his more natural position at this level no chance would better than Brownhill in midfield

No. Graham Alexander was the exception, not the RULE!

We need to show greater ruthlessness in moving players off our books in May-I think Alan Pace will push for it. We used to be great and getting good money for players past their best, but now there appears to be less focus in trying to generate income rather than putting them out on loan.I find it bizarre that Weghorse has been allowed to go out on 3-4 loans, having played less than half a season, when we should have got rid. Some will be going as they end their contract but in total , but in total the following need to simply go-Cork, Rodriguez, Josh, Taylor, Bastian, Egan Riley,Peacock Farrell, JBG ,Muric,McNally,Obefomi. Thats a sizeable reduction in wages that can be reinvested

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:37 pm

Yes. Fantastic idea to play a defender in midfield.

Jesus wept.

No worse of an idea than playing a right footed cb at left back or bringing on cm to play rb/rw

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:34 pm

No I have to agree, I thought Ramsey had a good game, he did the job he was asked which was to stop Robertson and with his honestly and looking for the one two from Amdouni has ended up on the end of a VAR shocker

No he didn’t. Robertson hardly got over the half way line in the first half as he was sitting in as Trent got forward. Second half Robertson had so much room on the left wing because Ramsay wasn’t doing his ‘job’

roperclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:31 pm

No he didn’t. Robertson hardly got over the half way line in the first half as he was sitting in as Trent got forward. Second half Robertson had so much room on the left wing because Ramsay wasn’t doing his ‘job’

Second half we were also chasing the game so always going to be more space, that’s one of the quietest I’ve seen Robertson against Burnley over the years.

Everyone sees games differently but I thought Ramsey was solid today